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A What advantages do US carriers have over IJN carriers ?

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The title said it all. Sorry guys I have frustrated all day grinding the.... Ranger. So my apology if I sound frustrated. My one and only question is what advantages do US carriers have over IJN carriers ? Air supremacy ? No, their 3/X/X and 4/X/X loadout is much better than the US 2/0/2 and 3/0/2 loadout because they have more squadron and in combat the IJN CVs will send all but one squadron in to attack the US CV's plane and the remaining squadron can strafe the **** out of the US fighters. Not only that all IJN AA loadout also have a torpedo bombers squadron and there for they can still deal a bit more damage and get more EXP over the US AA loadout. 

 

Strike loadout.

Same story to be honest until tier 9 US strike loadouts are useless because.... No fighters escort and well you are dinner for an IJN CVs because he will shoot down all your planes and if he attack you.... You will either die or have about 10-30% exp left. So that's that.

 

Balanced loadout.

Well since most IJN players won't be using the balanced loadout except for the tier 7 IJN carriers captains there is no point discussing about that. US balanced loadout is below average I would say. From tier 6 and below you only have a chance of doing well if the enemy CV is either using the balanced or strike loadout which is not easy to run into nowadays. Tier 7+ I can not say much to be honest. But yeah the Ranger's balanced loadout is not good at all and well I am trying to grind through it as much as I can. Tier 8 Lexington is a different story with good AA but again bad damage output so the loadout which is not bad but is not exactly good

 

This is my personal opinion so correct me if I get anything wrong and well have a good day.

Haters gonna hate :popcorn: 

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ironically USN cv has better damage torpedo damage and spread compared to IJN. USN are also notorious for one shooting lower tier bb with just 1 torpedo squadron. tier 9 and tier 10 can also do the same with its two torpedo squadron, if the player is skillfull enough to land most of 12 torpedoes like ichase.

 

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And for those people who wants evidence. I am not exactly sure how I can find evidence for this 

 

Then dont make accusations such as this.

Its like me going up and publicly accusing you of murder because I have a feeling. Yeah thats it. Not exactly sure how I can find evidence of your murder but I know you did it alright.

 

  • Basically your USN CVs have THE advantage of their TBs being capable of hitting 6/6 of their torps. Something the IJN CVs cant.
    • They can manage 3/4 rarely but never a 4/4 (unless their enemy is an complete idiot and intentionally tried to get hit with all 4 with the longest ship in the game). IJN TBs usually hit 1 or 2.

 

  • Their DBs have a much tighter spread and better accuracy over their IJN Counterparts.

 

  • Their Fighters will usually win. Even with 2x6 vs 3x4. You will notice the USN Fighters coming out on top due to the way AA mechanics work (Its not a drain of HP over time but rather every tick, a PlaneHP/Avg DPS starts and well... RNG takes over.

 

Just because one loadout seems better doesnt make it so.

 

Go play a Midway / Essex and you will know. Heck go play a Taiho and youll find out.

So stop making baseless accusations and start gathering REAL, ACTUAL, TANGIBLE data that you can use.

Because that is how you want to have the forums take you seriously at all as pretty much everyone looks at any thread by you and go "Oh look. Its him again"

 

This is my personal opinion so correct me if I get anything wrong and well have a good day.

Haters gonna hate :popcorn: 

 

 

Well my personal opinion is that you are a person unwilling to change. Firmly believing that you must be right all the time and everyone else who disagrees with you is a hater and must be ignored. Furthermore its also my opinion that you do not contribute anything positive to the game or forums and should be ignored at every possible opportunity.

 

Salty Hater goanna Hate with Salt.

 

Don't hide behind "Personal Opinions".

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ironically USN cv has better damage torpedo damage and spread compared to IJN. USN are also notorious for one shooting lower tier bb with just 1 torpedo squadron. tier 9 and tier 10 can also do the same with its two torpedo squadron, if the player is skillfull enough to land most of 12 torpedoes like ichase.

 

 

Well this is probably my fault but so far the enemy planes know exactly where my torpedoes bombers are and will go after them and well I can't one shot anything yet. Just unlocked the Ranger... I have a rather aggressive play style and I guess that I should change :)

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Then dont make accusations such as this.

Its like me going up and publicly accusing you of murder because I have a feeling. Yeah thats it. Not exactly sure how I can find evidence of your murder but I know you did it alright.

 

  • Basically your USN CVs have THE advantage of their TBs being capable of hitting 6/6 of their torps. Something the IJN CVs cant.
    • They can manage 3/4 rarely but never a 4/4 (unless their enemy is an complete idiot and intentionally tried to get hit with all 4 with the longest ship in the game). IJN TBs usually hit 1 or 2.

 

  • Their DBs have a much tighter spread and better accuracy over their IJN Counterparts.

 

  • Their Fighters will usually win. Even with 2x6 vs 3x4. You will notice the USN Fighters coming out on top due to the way AA mechanics work (Its not a drain of HP over time but rather every tick, a PlaneHP/Avg DPS starts and well... RNG takes over.

 

Just because one loadout seems better doesnt make it so.

 

Go play a Midway / Essex and you will know. Heck go play a Taiho and youll find out.

So stop making baseless accusations and start gathering REAL, ACTUAL, TANGIBLE data that you can use.

Because that is how you want to have the forums take you seriously at all as pretty much everyone looks at any thread by you and go "Oh look. Its him again"

 

 

Well my personal opinion is that you are a person unwilling to change. Firmly believing that you must be right all the time and everyone else who disagrees with you is a hater and must be ignored. Furthermore its also my opinion that you do not contribute anything positive to the game or forums and should be ignored at every possible opportunity.

 

Salty Hater goanna Hate with Salt.

 

Don't hide behind "Personal Opinions".

I would love to show statistic or something but there none available at the moment. And well if I change you will never change with your hateful tone so why should I change if I still get the same hate ? :P

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Wut, 2 connecting days of CV whines from you now, gosh

You're showing it

I would love to show statistic or something but there none available at the moment. And well if I change you will never change with your hateful tone so why should I change if I still get the same hate ? :P

You make us dislike you, you should change first, only that simple

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I would love to show statistic or something but there none available at the moment. And well if I change you will never change with your hateful tone so why should I change if I still get the same hate ? 

 

Because all your posts are firstly mostly incoherent.

Lacking in understanding.

Pure whining and complaining.

Mostly nonconstructive.

Unwilling to accept any form of criticism.

 

So why should we change if you refuse to change?

Also I liked how you totally emphasized on my "hateful tone" and completely ignored like 95% of the post giving you PROVABLE REASONS of USN CV advantages over IJN CVs.

 

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its possible for USN cv to have all of 6 torpedo form 1 squadron to hit the target, plus they have better damage output so oneshoting lower tier bb is possible with just one torpedo squadron but they can still one shot bb with 80% hp with 5 torpedo hits.  but i never experience for ijn to hit all 4 of them, i'm already lucky if i can hit at least 3 torpedo from ijn torpedo squadron. 

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What advantages do US carriers have?

 

-easy, when their sailors go on shore leave, they can go to New York.

 

Who doesn't want to go to New York?

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I have no clue on the carriers yet.....coz I don't have one in my port yet.....based on the threads from EU,SEA,NA and Reddit;people tend to have a affinity towards IJN carriers......

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So how is this thread any different from your other 50 threads on the same subject? Why does it even need to be a thing? Do you honestly think that by writing increasingly irrelevant rants on the same subject ad nauseam you will change anyone's mind?

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wow another CV thread, let me join

 

 

 
  • Basically your USN CVs have THE advantage of their TBs being capable of hitting 6/6 of their torps. Something the IJN CVs cant.
    • They can manage 3/4 rarely but never a 4/4 (unless their enemy is an complete idiot and intentionally tried to get hit with all 4 with the longest ship in the game). IJN TBs usually hit 1 or 2.

 

 

IJN torp squad makes up for this by their superior re-arming speed, which is a very big factor specially at high tiers

 

 

 

  • Their DBs have a much tighter spread and better accuracy over their IJN Counterparts.

 

 

true, but  they make up for having a reliable auto torpedo aiming which even changes trajectory while "yellowed". user/noob-friendly and can reduce stress and workload while micro handling multi-squads at high tier, downside is CV player wont develop good CV skill hence the statistics which shows higher performance rating of midway vs hakuryu despite being almost equally balanced. (USN CV captains are trained hard)

 

 

  • Their Fighters will usually win. Even with 2x6 vs 3x4. You will notice the USN Fighters coming out on top due to the way AA mechanics work (Its not a drain of HP over time but rather every tick, a PlaneHP/Avg DPS starts and well... RNG takes over.

 

Go play a Midway / Essex and you will know. Heck go play a Taiho and youll find out.

So stop making baseless accusations and start gathering REAL, ACTUAL, TANGIBLE data that you can use.

 

 

why does this tell me that it is you who lack exp? starting from tier 9, fighter balance gets thrown out of the window. 1x4 vs 1x6 becomes almost equal at strength, most of the time 1x6 wins but will be out of ammo and very few survivng plane.
balance becomes even more fcked up when CV captains achieve tier 5 skill "air superiority". from my experience, even with figther supporting equipment, 1x5 vs 1x7 becomes an equal so the result will be IJN will always dominate the sky at high tiers since  no sane minded essex/midway captain will use air superiority setup, heck even 302 setup will be having hard time vs IJN since high tier USN CVs have very long rearming time. it can be a pain in the ass for essex figthing against a taiho with 322 but midway makes up for its superior plane number(hangar) and high HP and cruising speed of its torp bombers.

 

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  • Their Fighters will usually win. Even with 2x6 vs 3x4. You will notice the USN Fighters coming out on top due to the way AA mechanics work (Its not a drain of HP over time but rather every tick, a PlaneHP/Avg DPS starts and well... RNG takes over.

 

Just because one loadout seems better doesnt make it so.

 

Go play a Midway / Essex and you will know. Heck go play a Taiho and youll find out.

So stop making baseless accusations and start gathering REAL, ACTUAL, TANGIBLE data that you can use.

 

 

Death, I think I'll have to go with Deicide on this. We won't know how it actually fares at high tiers since we have yet to reach them. If Shokaku is of any indication, I'm still inclined to believe that USN has better fighters and slightly higher probability of coming out on top of IJN. Though that's base on current perception and paper numbers.

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