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HMS Repulse battlecruiser

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friend wanted me to derp this hard. don't blame me XD taym too sheetpoast.

 

As I am quite fond of battlecruisers, I will admit the Repulse was the very ship that had me liking them as capital ships.

 

I PRESENT TO YOU THE HMS REPULSE.

 

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I think this is her 1941 retrofit.

 

Now the concept of the battlecruiser was to be that it would be a solid cruiser killer, an intermediate ship between a cruiser and a full battleship which were dreads by design at the time, and participate in high speed runs such as commerce protection or raiding despite the random builds of navies powerful enough to field them. The UK was one such navy and in WWI had fielded several battlecruisers, two known engagements was the near-annihilation of the German cruiser squadron at Heligoland Bight where a senior commander Rear Admiral Leberecht Maass had ol' Grim pick him up and the Battle of Jutland where the first opening brawl before the battleships of both UK and Germany started slugging each other was the salvofest of the battlecruisers.

 

Incidentally, the paper bit for the battlecruisers on the design boards had reviewed why the ship, not the concept of the ship itself, had problems and sought to try and remedy them as the Queen Liz battleships, fast in their own right (take into account, the Queen Liz is a flippin' dread! 24 knots is fast for the time period and that's saying something on a dreadnought) had proven enough success and wanted their battlecruisers to do the same. If we speak of all the gump, the concept was a solid thing, the designs had deviated. The UK wanted guns, speed and responsiveness whereas Germany wanted theirs to be solid punishment defenders, protected and very solid. If we talk about that in the UK battlecruiser aspect at its height disregarding paper ships:

 

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THIS freaky battlecruiser took the cake (to be fair, after all the hax she was installed, despite being still designated as a battlecruiser, you can never deny that after the Washington Naval Treaty, she is more or less a fast battleship at the 1930's. DEAL WITH IT. Bitching any further won't help) so hard despite Bismarck... racking her. If we put shipgirls here, she won't like the fact that her colleague battlecruiser the Repulse went all "until bombs and torpedoes do us part" with Prince of Wales off Malaya when she went under during the brawl at Denmark Strait. Romeo and Juliet I think not.

 

But who am I to derp around. Now for the bit.

 

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The Repulse is the little sister of the Renown battlecruiser and both came from the Revenge battleship design although they were originally to be souped up Revenges. An interesting thing to note is that the name Renown was supposed to be a battleship and they changed it to Revenge so the names went to the two battlecruisers that Sir Fisher wanted. In all sense of prospects, the Renowns weren't really the "BOTTLEKROOZA OP PLZ NERF" type as they were sort of finished right after Jutland happened and at the time they found the glaring holes in constructing the battlecruiser (magazines going boom, the hardest whacks of their service runs were of the battlecruisers and as someone had said long before in another thread here, building one and repairing costs EVEN MOAR MONIES than a typical battleship but the sound part is that they repair 'slightly' shorter as these types of ships were made to run n gun due to their prospect in cruiser killing and cruisers run very fast) of their design belief that speed and dakka go to gether as armor comes but secondary, a very VERY necessary secondary.

 

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Random babbling aside, Repulse at "stock" or the moment she came out of the drydock packed six 15 inch guns in dual mounts in AB-X configuration, several 4 inch secondaries, a couple of 3 inch guns and submerged torpedo tubes which, again, is a bit ridiculous for a capital ship her size. she's protected at about 8 inches of belt armor, 3 inches of deck and the conning tower at 10 inches and her speed is at 31 knots which made her and her big sister the fastest capital ships in the world... at the time. If Queen Liz was the fastest dread at her time, then these sisters were the fastest capital ships at the time. Souping them up however, had proved something wonky as the big sister got chucked a lot of upgrades whereas the little sister had similar upgrades that made her nearly in line with big sister. at most, Repulse at the eve of WWII had still the same 15 inch guns in the AB-X layout, a bit less 4 inch guns, inclusion of six 4 inch guns and a couple of 40mm Pompoms for its AA suite and its belt armor got thicker at 9 inches as well as the deck getting thicker at 4 inches at best. MUH UPGRADES, YOUR MAJESTY!

 

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Repulse, after she had her shakedown cruise and commission, rolled in to the brawl of the Second Battle of Heligoland Bight where you already know that during the first brawl the British battlecruiser squadron gave the German cruisers one hard whack that killed one of their most senior officers, two concepts of the battlecruiser which was to arm a cruiser killing capital ship not a battleship happened for her as a single 15 inch shell hit the light cruiser Konigsberg and forced her to limp away with engine damage and she was actively running around searching for anything to blast at. She was present when the remainder of the Kaiserliche Marine cap ships surrendered at Scapa Flow and had a happy moment with a hug I mean collision with a fellow battlecruiser HMAS Australia (speaking of which, did the ANZ guys have WWI grade battlecruisers aside from the Indefatigable Australia for the Aussies?)

 

Afterwards however, she headed to a naval base to have hax installed such as improving her armor layout, grabbing some new gear like fire control sensors, gun directors and have what you and making some minor adjustments to her hull, especially for the torpedo tubes which is still a bit absurd. She, along with the more later battlecruiser the Hood and the rest of her Division colleagues went around the world during the interwar which is a very impressive feat even for a battlecruiser as most ships have limits on the rough seas, especially the huge ass Atlantic where it has been mused as the battleground for playing minesweeper pin the depth charge on the u-boat in both World Wars (technically, minesweeper was usually played in the Baltics and some ships such as Bayern failed the game). Again after that around the world bit she once more went into drydock for more hax installments which by the time of the 1930's, she was literally a borderline fast battleship due to amount of retrofits she got at that time period but if we invoke the Washington Naval Treaty, the line between battleship and battlecruiser blurred so hard that it became universal fact that battlecruiser = battleship. And why the hell not? The end grade battlecruisers that survive packed battleship grade guns and they were, by all means derp, the first fast battleships of the world after the signage of those papers. She had a couple of runs afterwards such as being present during the spark of the Spanish Civil War, King George V's Fleet Review where all cap ships of powerful navies were there and served as the battlecruiser escort for the King and Queen when they traveled. If anything else, I would pretty much say Repulse was one well loved battlecruiser to have her duty that technically complements the Queen's Guard only in the Navy.

 

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Then, shit literally happened. Hard. And this wasn't the beginning of all the things that was to happen where she would be one of the testamenst to the very power of plane spam the projecting might of air superiority and the emerging concept of the carrier.

 

Hitler steamrolled into Poland and Repulse was one of the first ships to enforce the blockade and blast any blockade runner trying to get past her. After her guard duty she was to sail to Nova Scotia to find Scharnhorst who was somewhere commerce raiding and had to accompany a carrier with her at that time and also had to accompany another carrier Ark Royal in search for blockade runners. Why use a battlecruiser to find blockade runner ships you might ask? Because the flippin battlecruiser can chase the thing down and not as much as break a sweat blasting the speedy ship trying to go over the blockade and if that didn't work, the carrier can eyeball it as well as send strike aircraft. She spent some of her runs as troop run escort and hunter killer and missed a couple of ships to blast; the Admiral Hipper that blasted the destroyer HMS Glowworm that reported contact (why did you NOT torpedo the thing?!), Scharnhorst's sister the Gneisenau as it left the port of Tronheim, and the battleship Bismarck where she was part of the escorts but had to run back home as she was running out of fuel. Her run to the Cape of Good hope due to her troop escort had her change hands and reassigned to East Indies since Japan was getting brow raising suspicious about their intentions at APAC.

 

Her last run was joining the battleship Prince of Wales as part of the force to make Japan think twice about what they're going to do and say hi at the Indies. Designated as Force Z, they attempted to interdict the landings on Java and an area of Malaya where they were found... and all AA guns let go. Despite going matrix on torpedo strikes on her, she got hit, listed, and eventually capsized. If evading 19 torpedoes wasn't matrix-y enough, I don't know what is.

 

So ends the wonky service run of the Repulse though its service run speaks for itself and she was one solid veteran that I would really want.

 

in-game though, if the ship split that may include battleships forking to fast and slow since the cruisers are to split into heavy and light as well as the British tech tree runs in, its likely her big sister the Renown is going to represent them both unless by some strange twist of fate they paint Repulse gold and put her as either a normal prem, a reward for clam warz, or what. As I assume for the Renown as well, I'm expecting that the guns reload at about 27 seconds at the cost of slightly off shot dispersion as it would make her behave as a souped up Kongo.

 

Long TL;DR is over.

 

That is all.

Edited by EvyL

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Repulse would probably be the Premium while the Renown will be the regular BC (Or Fast Battleship depends which configuration you use).

 

Anyway, Good stuff.

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Repulse would probably be the Premium while the Renown will be the regular BC (Or Fast Battleship depends which configuration you use).

 

Anyway, Good stuff.

 

Renown looked weird when she was retrofitted IMHO but she was the eldest and had more upgrades at that time.

 

They better not mess her up.

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Renown looked weird when she was retrofitted IMHO but she was the eldest and had more upgrades at that time.

 

They better not mess her up.

 

Hood would have undergo similar modernization if the Brits are just a bit less poor at the time. May be it's a good thing she did not for you :B

 

She look alright when you consider there is a ship class called Fuso - which is IMO the Single Ugliest Battleships ever. Nelson Class is a close second.

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Hood would have undergo similar modernization if the Brits are just a bit less poor at the time. May be it's a good thing she did not for you :B

 

She look alright when you consider there is a ship class called Fuso - which is IMO the Single Ugliest Battleships ever. Nelson Class is a close second.

 

Strangely, I really like the Fuso, pagoda mast and all. But her appearance is acceptable since Japan was nerfed hard by the Washington Naval Treaty.

 

For Hood however, since this is a game where assumptions are greenlit, her last upgrade before she went and blew up at Denmark Strait will be her final hull unless there are again super secret docos and design studies for Hood.

 

I'm still a bit worried since Repulse might be coming out as a prem with her configs when she sank at 1941 at best.

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For Hood however, since this is a game where assumptions are greenlit, her last upgrade before she went and blew up at Denmark Strait will be her final hull unless there are again super secret docos and design studies for Hood.

 

Now thats your job to let me know ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

 

I'm still a bit worried since Repulse might be coming out as a prem with her configs when she sank at 1941 at best.

 

 *Dig through the books*

 

Tier 6 (More suitable IMO) or Tier 5 would still be fine. She Basically had no more than 20 Pom Poms and A Couple of 102 mm AA guns.

Probably play like a upgraded Kongo with a bit less AA.

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In the crew shot, bottom center row...Gotta love that upper crust officer's garb.

 

Edit: hope all those medals didn't weigh him down when the time came to abandon ship...

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I wonder how do BattleCruisers fit into the game. At first they look no different than BB with fast speed but less armor.

The speed isn't that glamorous considering very few BB are 21 knots slow, the rest are 25-30 knots which kinda took the prided speed off CC.

Combine that with BB guns' dispersion and vulnerability to air attacks, you get a mixed bag of things that don't really work that well within the game.

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I wonder how do BattleCruisers fit into the game. At first they look no different than BB with fast speed but less armor.

The speed isn't that glamorous considering very few BB are 21 knots slow, the rest are 25-30 knots which kinda took the prided speed off CC.

Combine that with BB guns' dispersion and vulnerability to air attacks, you get a mixed bag of things that don't really work that well within the game.

 

if you want an answer, then look to the Kongo and Amagi. Kongo was a 1914 battlecruiser that got reformatted to fast battleship, Amagi was a 1921-23 battlecruiser plan that wasn't realized with the second sister Akagi going carrier and Amagi being scrapped but her retrofit plans were there.

 

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Repulse would probably be the Premium 

 

Another premium ship that was destroyed by aircraft without a proper fight.

 

Anyway, Tier IV, V or VI? Likely to be tier V, right? Because her guns are kinda big compared to tier IVs and doesn't have enough fire power compared to an average tier VI. Although her guns are the same as the Warspite.

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Another premium ship that was destroyed by aircraft without a proper fight.

 

Anyway, Tier IV, V or VI? Likely to be tier V, right? Because her guns are kinda big compared to tier IVs and doesn't have enough fire power compared to an average tier VI. Although her guns are the same as the Warspite.

 

likely tier  6 for fast battleships as paper ships such as G3 (UUUUGLEH) are still viable ships.

 

I still despise the ABC turret layout. 

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likely tier  6 for fast battleships as paper ships such as G3 (UUUUGLEH) are still viable ships.

 

I still despise the ABC turret layout. 

 

Yeah... She definitely has the speed and maneuverability. She is a battlecruiser any way. But her fire power is not impressive at all. Only 6 times 381 mm guns. And because she is a battlecruiser, she has worse armour than an average battleship.

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6 guns... low armor... big target. She's gonna be like the Miyogi- free XP bank.

 

 

Although the Myogi can still fight back if used properly though. As for the Renown/Repulse, I want her for the sole reason of ERMAGHERD BETTELKROOZA.

 

Seriously though, she is one good looking CC, I'll say that much. Her 15 inch guns, despite having only six of em in three dual mounts, may make her as a solid capital ship for fast maneuvers. She did, after all, went on frequent hunter-killer expeditions, a blockade guard and an escort screen so I fail to see that she will not be a stalwart ship by herself assuming they will roll with what Renown had since Repulse kept her 1939 with additional hax to update her questionable AA suite.

 

If anything, to supplement her large and sleek albeit less armored due to her original intentions to blast cruisers out of the water, her gun load time would have to be improved to make her a very potent battlecruiser sans battleship within the game. If Queen Liz were to have her way, the BL 15 inch Mk 1 may load agonizingly long at 30+ seconds which WILL impede her. sure she might have the potency of a full battleship but her armor betrays her to large caliber shells.

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Regarding your reference to HMS Glowworm's ramming of the German heavy cruiser Admiral Hipper, the destroyer did fire her torps at the enemy, but the Germans kept their bow pointing at her, and successfully combed the torp tracks. By the time the Glowworm actually hit the Hipper she had been very severely damaged and her rudder was jammed, so the collision itself may have been accidental. The German Navy themselves recommended that the commander and crew of the Glowworm be recognised for their courage in engaging a superior foe, not necessarily for the ramming (which did cause a lot of damage).

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