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Happy Fathers day

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Of course we do.

 

Except that you are late to the party. It happened on June the 19th, this year.

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Well, you could just celebrate my Birthday instead :D ahahahahahahahaha..haaaaa~.... :(

*sigh*

 

Your birthday is today?... What a coincidence!!! It's mine too!!! :D:D:D

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Edited by NguyenArchitakuVN

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The above post has the rising sun flag.

 

Should really be the setting sun, seeing the nation that used it got smashed to smithereens.

 

 

Dude that is some righteous comedy there, +1 my brother, let the dude abide....

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Super Tester
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The above post has the rising sun flag.

 

Should really be the setting sun, seeing the nation that used it got smashed to smithereens.

 

Smashed and rebuilt in an hour because the US needed a strong non communist ally in asia.

Meanwhile here I am sitting at work in another "looser" country, playing on my tablet, getting paid good money for my apprenticeship and enjoying life in one of europe's economically strongest countries.

 

Ah, the many hardships of living in a country that was "smashed to smithereens"...

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Should really be the setting sun, seeing the nation that used it got smashed to smithereens.

 

they only got smashed because stupid decision Aka Battle of Midway. Losing Carrier task force 1 (Akagi and Kaga) and 2 (Hiryuu and Souryuu) definitely made them lose the war there. 

 

 

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Alpha Tester
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they only got smashed because stupid decision Aka Battle of Midway. Losing Carrier task force 1 (Akagi and Kaga) and 2 (Hiryuu and Souryuu) definitely made them lose the war there. 

 

 

 

No, they got smashed because they were cruel and did inhumane things to those they considered 'not of the Heavenly Race' in the countries they invaded. It was nationalistic racism.

This treatment of non-Japanese by the military regime was their biggest downfall. The killing of almost ten million civilians and the forced working of PoWs to death was one of the leading causes of the Allies determination to defeat Japan.

Read this...IMO the war was lost the day the Pearl Harbor plans were agreed on by the supreme war council.

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No, they got smashed because they were cruel and did inhumane things to those they considered 'not of the Heavenly Race' in the countries they invaded. It was nationalistic racism.

This treatment of non-Japanese by the military regime was their biggest downfall. The killing of almost ten million civilians and the forced working of PoWs to death was one of the leading causes of the Allies determination to defeat Japan.

Read this...IMO the war was lost the day the Pearl Harbor plans were agreed on by the supreme war council.

 

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Read this...IMO the war was lost the day the Pearl Harbor plans were agreed on by the supreme war council.

 

sure that's a valid point, Pearl Harbor was successful for the IJN but it was not perfect, One of the Major objectives was to destroy the USN Carriers in port but most of the carriers were not there, Only the "Grey Wolf" the Enterprise was and Lexington were nearby but lucky not to be in port inside Pearl Harbor.

 

from the link

 

 "USS Enterprise departed Pearl Harbor on 28 Nov 41 on a mission to deliver 12 Grumman F4F-3 Wildcats of Marine Fighting Squadron Two Eleven (VMF-211) to Wake Island.  The Enterprise, with the accompanying three heavy cruisers and nine destroyers, comprised Task Force 8 (TF 8).  The Marine fighters were launched on 2 Dec when the Enterprise was 75 miles (120 km) north of Wake Island.  She then turned east and headed back to Pearl Harbor where she was due to arrive on 6 Dec.  Due to a storm, Vice Admiral William Halsey, commander of TF 8 in Enterprise, ordered reduced speed thus delaying the carrier's arrival at Pearl Harbor until 7 December."

 

 

"In order to augment the air defenses for Midway Island, USS Lexington departed Pearl Harbor on 5 Dec with 18 Vought SB2U-3 Vindicators of Marine Scouting Bombing Squadron Two Thirty One (VMSB-231) aboard.  Along with the heavy cruisers USS Chicago (CA-29), USS Portland (CA-33) and USS Astoria (CA-34) and five destroyers, the Lexington formed Task Force 12. 

The plan was to approach within 400 miles (640 km) of Midway and fly the Marine squadron off to land on the island; Lexington would then be free to continue training/scouting.  This position would have been reached by mid-morning of 7 Dec.  Upon learning of the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, the Lexington launched search planes to hunt for the Japanese fleet, and at midmorning headed south to rendezvous with USS Indianapolis (CA-35) and USS Enterprise (CV-6) task forces to conduct a search SOUTHWEST of Oahu until returning to Pearl Harbor on 13 December."

 

 

 

 

 

http://bluejacket.com/ww2_12-07-41_carriers.html

Edited by Juan_23

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Alpha Tester
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Haku, those events that happened 70 years ago are in no way a reflection of current peoples. I did not mean to offend. The story of civilization is a series of one nation destroying another. We are all a product of subjugation, somewhere along the line.

 

EDIT: and if we do not learn from history, we are bound to repeat it.

 

 

sure that's a valid point, Pearl Harbor was successful for the IJN but it was not perfect, One of the Major objectives was to destroy the USN Carriers in port but most of the carriers were not there, Only the "Grey Wolf" the Enterprise was nearby but lucky not to be in port inside Pearl Harbor.

 

 

 

What I getting at, was deciding to declare war on the country with the biggest industrial might in the world.. Pearl Harbor was a partially successful plan in itself, but once the US was attacked, there was no way the IJN and IJA could keep up with the US output of war materials. It was a dead end street.

 

Edited by AntifoulAwl

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np this is fun. Let's remember that one of the Japanese commanders after Pearl Harbour was quoted as saying "all we have done is awoken the sleeping giant". After Pearl Harbour the eventual outcome was quite predictable. Akin to Operation Barbarossa.

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