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Really sad quality of teamplay...

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I have not seen such pathetic team play in years.... As the only CV in 3 maps straight, everyone ran off an left me to get pounded in first 5 mins. OR,a n heres the real kicker... I was team killed for an get this)... being useless an taking up spots from real players".....As much as I hate the race haters an spewing filth that goes on on NA servers,. I have to admit I am not far from goin there just in hopes of finding some team play.

 

/enough said

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You can report the teamkiller if you have replays enabled. That teamkiller will be dealt with.

 

EDIT: not to mentiont here's already auto TK penalty in place right now. So that TK most definetely got penalized for intentional teamkilling.

 

And, as a carrier you have these choice. Let the team know that you need escort, or div up with someone you know who can protect your ship. Or do as i do, join the fleet and go into the frontline. There are many options to play carriers, and playing carrier mean you have to play smarter. If you are left alone because you didn't want to keep up with the fleet or you stubbornly decided to stay behind, then it's your own fault. You have to remember that by having dedicated escorts around you, you are actually lessening the chance of your team to win. When i'm in USN cruisers, i usually stay around teammate' carrier in the early phase of the game where carriers usually rush to destroy enemy carrier. After that, i let my teammate carrier know that i'm leaving so i could participate in the battle.

 

Unfortunately, you can't expect that much teamwork from a group of strangers. Not to mention, this game is still young, there are still a lot of newcomers during the OBT phase, and people are still finding their groove. However, your grief is understandable since i also suffered from the same rage and grief after being abandoned by teammate. But live and learn, my man.

Edited by RG_Kid

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that is true. I am not one of those who sits behind a hill. I tend to stick with the main group. But idiots tend to shoot you when your in close... its a mild case of burnout I think lol

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I too will try to hang around a CV at the start in my cruiser, and then brave the initial onslaught before I tell the CV he is on his own, sometimes it doesn't quite work out and I take some torps intended for the CV.

 

But Hey if he is the only one on the team he gets to live a little longer, but I agree teamwork can be frustrating at times, in fact I have seen my stats fall in win rate, so have just decided not to worry about it anymore and just have fun.

 

 

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yer quite often when I was in my Myo I would put myself between enemy torps an a CV,... mainly because I can soak it up an repair 30-50% of the damage. But often it just doesn't pay sadly,.

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It pays (marginally) to shoot down enemy planes but almost nothing to soak up damage for the CV in my opinion.

 

I'll take a loss that gives me 1,200 XP over a win that gives me 200 any day. This is my usual mindset when I'm on a team that is trying to find out the fastest way possible to lose the game. When that happens, as is often on the server at the moment, I'm just looking out for #1's personal score.

Once the server get's more mature (yes I hear some of you cackling like Halloween witches :trollface:) and gameplay improves I'm sure my focus will adjust accordingly. 

EDIT: punctuation

Edited by Krieg

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In random battles it is every man for himself. If I am piloting a CA and hang out with CV's at the back of the map then I am not contributing my dpm to the team and I won't be earning much in the way of xp's either.

 

Playing as a team also applies to CV's as well as I often see a flight of planes briefly spot a nice juicy destroyer, but then rather than keep it lit so it can be killed they will fly off and do whatever it is to the CV players advantage. CV's playing for the team will accept some spotting responsibilities.

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Bear in mind you can point out threats to CV players, tell them they're on their own if they stay where they are, warn them of planes/ships approaching....and watch them sit still and die.

 

Half the CVs could be bots controlling planes for all I can tell.

 

If people should protect CVs, and they certainly should if for no other reason that being a team without a CV when the enemy has one really sucks, CVs should also be open to suggestions as to how the rest of the team needs THEM to do something to make it easier. And sometimes even use their fighters to protect themselves/team's capital ships.

 

I can count on one hand the number of times I see CVs give the slightest damn about the plight of their own friendlies; why would you expect the average player to view them as any more special?

 

Some people will act as douches, but the inherent design choices WG made around CV play will inevitably be rage inducing for some. Play a low tier BB and tell me how much you love CVs, lol.

Edited by Steeltrap

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I haven't even tried carriers yet but I have seen plenty of them die because they were unwilling to move about 3 km to their left. Although, some options would be to try divisions(i.e Platooning) with some people who you know you can trust. Other options would be to go with the flow of the team. If your team lemmings to one side(quite common nowadays), follow them a bit. Don't be the guy who stays even if the flank has collapsed and get hunted by destroyers and cruisers.

 

Also 07 Steeltrap.(kinda been a while)

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^ I was in Eu for nearly 4 weeks.

 

Or are you returning to WG games after a break?

 

Recognise your name, but I figure that's WoT (which I no longer play; I don't even bother with its forum any more, so dead has it become).

 

Cheers

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I have not seen such pathetic team play in years.... As the only CV in 3 maps straight, everyone ran off an left me to get pounded in first 5 mins. OR,a n heres the real kicker... I was team killed for an get this)... being useless an taking up spots from real players".....As much as I hate the race haters an spewing filth that goes on on NA servers,. I have to admit I am not far from goin there just in hopes of finding some team play.

 

/enough said

 

Dude its a tough call,

 

many peeps wont sit and baby sit a carrier because either A they hate them with a fury

 

or its because there is next to no XP from shooting down planes. and even then shooting the planes down before they launch.......

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People are [content removed]..........


 

And I do agree you should get a better reward for shooting planes down. I like doing it because it makes things safer for me.

 

Profanity. Post edited, warning issued.

~Noppers

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Steeltrap we were the two who talked about the mental capacity of the average wot player.

 

LOL, that would be a short conversation.

 

Then again, I've watched BBs sail into the narrowest parts of maps recently when there are 5 DDs on enemy roster, so it seems the stupid has moved into here, too.

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I have not seen such pathetic team play in years.... As the only CV in 3 maps straight, everyone ran off an left me to get pounded in first 5 mins. OR,a n heres the real kicker... I was team killed for an get this)... being useless an taking up spots from real players".....As much as I hate the race haters an spewing filth that goes on on NA servers,. I have to admit I am not far from goin there just in hopes of finding some team play.

 

/enough said

 

If you were teamkilled for this reason, you can send in a screenshot or replay in to customer support for action.

 

Anyway, it's one thing for a carrier to call for AA support and an escort. At tier V/VI/VII, I've seen players who were happy to drop in to escort carriers. However, it's another thing altogether to not only call for an escort/AA support, but them immediately pilot the carrier into the map borders or corners. Had a game where a carrier called for an escort, the lone Cleveland on our team volunteered, and he proceeded to immediately set his course to the corner of the map, which took one of the most powerful surface units on our team completely out of the match. Fortunately, we notified him about it and that carrier agreed and changed his course to follow the fleet in, ensuring he got his AA support and escort while not draining the rest of the team of a combatant. But I've seen games where carriers demand to be babysat and refuse to advance anywhere near the battle lines, taking firepower away from fights.

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If you were teamkilled for this reason, you can send in a screenshot or replay in to customer support for action.

 

Anyway, it's one thing for a carrier to call for AA support and an escort. At tier V/VI/VII, I've seen players who were happy to drop in to escort carriers. However, it's another thing altogether to not only call for an escort/AA support, but them immediately pilot the carrier into the map borders or corners. Had a game where a carrier called for an escort, the lone Cleveland on our team volunteered, and he proceeded to immediately set his course to the corner of the map, which took one of the most powerful surface units on our team completely out of the match. Fortunately, we notified him about it and that carrier agreed and changed his course to follow the fleet in, ensuring he got his AA support and escort while not draining the rest of the team of a combatant. But I've seen games where carriers demand to be babysat and refuse to advance anywhere near the battle lines, taking firepower away from fights.

 

So many games.....

 

Me "CV want AA support?"

 

"YES! please" as the carrier is driving the the end of the known world"

 

 

Sigh..... I tell ya Cvs are a lose lose for me, I hate getting unavoidable insta torped by em. ad then I cant even defend them!

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LOL, that would be a short conversation.

 

Then again, I've watched BBs sail into the narrowest parts of maps recently when there are 5 DDs on enemy roster, so it seems the stupid has moved into here, too.

 

That would probably be me - at least once, anyway. We all have to learn, and it takes some of us longer than others.

 :P

 

But getting back to the main point, the communication thing in battles is hard, especially when allied ships carry no real identifying names or numbers. It's difficult to ask a random destroyer to stick around & hold your hand when the random destroyer might not know it's him you're talking to. One really doesn't want to be peering short-sightedly at a tiny ship recognition chart while being monstered by the enemy, just so you know who you're going to call. Which is why the division thing is good, when you can get it to work.

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That would probably be me - at least once, anyway. We all have to learn, and it takes some of us longer than others.

 :P

 

But getting back to the main point, the communication thing in battles is hard, especially when allied ships carry no real identifying names or numbers. It's difficult to ask a random destroyer to stick around & hold your hand when the random destroyer might not know it's him you're talking to. One really doesn't want to be peering short-sightedly at a tiny ship recognition chart while being monstered by the enemy, just so you know who you're going to call. Which is why the division thing is good, when you can get it to work.

 

*cough* hold alt, or head to your settings and enable "Alternate battle interface".

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that one probrem with Asia server .... we not trust teammate enough ..... 
from my exp. from wot .. "Some" match in NA, it some say let's go toherther, we go together .... and it more fun
When move to SEA ... I say go with me, they go with me but when we see enemy ... they stop and leave me to go alone ...(you can guess the rest)

just only some match that stay together but the % is way less than NA

that why I sometime just ignore when some randon ppl in game tell me what to do

.....  or just follow them .. not going to lead them since most of the time when i look back again .. they already run away .... darn .....

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that one probrem with Asia server .... we not trust teammate enough ..... 

from my exp. from wot .. "Some" match in NA, it some say let's go toherther, we go together .... and it more fun

When move to SEA ... I say go with me, they go with me but when we see enemy ... they stop and leave me to go alone ...(you can guess the rest)

just only some match that stay together but the % is way less than NA

that why I sometime just ignore when some randon ppl in game tell me what to do

.....  or just follow them .. not going to lead them since most of the time when i look back again .. they already run away .... darn .....

Too much cowards? And this is only a game... What would they do in real life situation.....?

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If only players really made more team effort a priority, meanwhile, those who do (like me on occasion) don't get the reward to make it worth while.

In this example, I'm in the dpm machine Cleveland, and instead of going in for glory, I stayed behind to protect our carrier from the enemy carriers bumrush to sink our CV before he could sink them, needless to say I got no thank you from the CV, and I had a really average game ( 50 hits), but hey at least I shot down a a lot of potentially game changing planes ( I ended up with 24 planes shot down, most of which were TB's and DB's) which got me squat reward :(

 

 

 

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I switched to solely playing DDs just so I can operate without need of support and to have something with reliable speed.

 

I have given up any hope of maintaining a w/r I am happy with on this server, the maps are far too large to be able to relocate in time to help the other flank where the majority of the team are held up by 2 BBs.

 

Communication is non existent, unless you think that poi is actually a word.

 

That said, I enjoy the game play, even on this server, the implementation is really well .....implemented and there is just enough depth to keep it interesting.

 

FG

 

 

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I know the feeling of bad teams all too well....winrate dropped from 58% to 54.5% in two days. The thing is this...CV players sometimes need to stick with the fleet...nocpoint covering a CV who is going opposite direction of fleet or all the way to the back of map. And my guns will be out of the fight and reward for shooting planes down are minuscle. I tried playing escort to CVs and BBs many times, most times are not as expected since half of team just yolo die in 10 mins.

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I know the feeling of bad teams all too well....winrate dropped from 58% to 54.5% in two days. The thing is this...CV players sometimes need to stick with the fleet...nocpoint covering a CV who is going opposite direction of fleet or all the way to the back of map. And my guns will be out of the fight and reward for shooting planes down are minuscle. I tried playing escort to CVs and BBs many times, most times are not as expected since half of team just yolo die in 10 mins.

 

I know that feel too :angry:

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