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Stalingrad class battlecruiser

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if asked how to battlecruiser, usually it would have went like this:

 

- build huge ass ship that's basically a stopgap between a cruiser and full battleship

- give her sizable guns of 11 to 15 inch

- enable her to chase down anything short of a battleship

- send her out to sea and watch her blow up cruisers out of the water

 

normally, some salt dogs or even typical navy fans would give you a prime example of a battlecruiser was either member of Force Z, the Repulse and Hood (to be fair, Repulse stayed the same even if she was given modernization hax whilst Hood after the hax outfitting was now equivalent to a fast battleship... hell, she WAS the first fast battleship in all technicalities despite her being a battlecruiser still due to the said hax outfiting because Kongo at the time had her hax retrofit at the 1930's or so. Lexington and Amagi went full CV so they dont count no more), but even on paper, there were plenty of plans and design studies for battlecruisers that are still in paper and hopefully World of Warships will intro them as combat since I still believe, albeit with tiny hope, that the RUdevs are asking each cluster's branches, RU, EU, APAC and NA, for archive raiders and dated info. if there's any crap stored, its either in authored books or in the National Archives of each country.

 

Russia didn't lose out to bountiful piles of paper ships themselves but if we see their aspect in the game, some are probably just total insane when it comes to blueprints and projected goals for each vessel. this vessel was one of the interesting paper ships I have to thank karl0ssus for showing me the line drawings for.

 

2hf5tlv.jpgCOMRADES, I PRESENT TO YOU THE GLORIOUS STALINGRAD CLASS BATTLECRUISER!

 

its so Russian inducing that my stubble started growing and I now have an intense craving for pure vodka.

 

well... lulz aside, this thing was projected at the 50's and the only anomaly in the cruiser-battlecruiser-battleship triangle that had remained seaworthy was the Alaska large cruiser. this was virtually Stalin's pet project in the navy so nobody, not even the senior officers could respond to it in protest lest they be 'accidented' and 'suddenly forgotten' when they do cross Great Comrade Stalin since gun warships was, in the buildup of the Cold War, beginning to age. remember that the last all-dakka cruisers the US built were the Des Moines in adjacent to their last capital all dakka ship had been the Iowas and they didn't build anymore dakka ship because everything started going missile (fun fact: weapon testing on missiles, an unarmed Talos SAM was intentionally slammed into a destroyer escort. warhead aint live so it simply smashed through the ship, splitting her in half as she sank a couple of hours later). if anything, she was basically a bigger version of her US counterpart at the time which was Alaska. had a hull completed for floating out but sadly turned into a vampire (see terminology sticky in general discussion) buffet and was scrapped after a while.

 

also known as Projekt 82, thing was basically an upheaved and upchucked version of the predecessor Kronshtadt which was declined by the senior officers back then as they needed crap to focus literally spewing out 50 tanks per day in tank factories. if you whine about postwar, then Des Moines is a flippin postwar ship but has the right to be in the game because she's an all dakka cruiser even if she did have cheat addons like ERTERLERDERs. she was to have an insane speed of 35+ knots (note that the vessel that had incredibly insane speed was the French Fantasque. 40+ knots lolwat), armor that protected her from 8 inch guns and packing nine 12 inch guns as her offensive armament although her 12 inch batteries had other uses themselves during this time. her AA suite for a Russian ship was... crazy. had two stubby funnels/smokestacks and her main mast looks weird and she had new ECM's to be outfitted aboard. it was a bit strange why she packed 12 inch guns since the Russians had this fun penchant of making THE biggest dakka they can field (420mm SPG on a tiny reinforced tank hull, hurr) and the Kronshtadt right in the outbreak of World War II had similar stuff on the Stalingrad although she had a bigger primary armament of 15 inches and was fairly slower. oh well its probably a good notion why she should pack 12 inches since in the gun complements of battlecruisers of old, their primary armaments were all of 11 to 15 inches since their role was of a cruiser killer and needed guns to obliterate cruisers out of the water.

 

had she been built, her colleague and adversary would have been the Alaska class (to be fair, Alaska DID have some design studies on her and had the strange notion of the "Super-Alaska").

 

in-game, she'll most likely behave like a fast battleship rather than a full-on battlecruiser but to ease the minds of "ERMAGHERD OP RUSSIAN BIAS HURR DURR", she'll most likely be easily blasted by EVERY GUN OVER 8 INCHES. the Scharnhorst, which can serve the duties of the battlecruiser as a cruiser killer and that of a capital ship bearing in the battle line, will laugh maniacally as she unloads her 11 inch guns at this thing.

 

that is all. 

Edited by EvyL

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Alpha Tester
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Glorious Supercruisers.

 

Construction efforts on the first three Stalingrads were repeatedly delayed because Soviet Russia. After Stalins death, the half complete Stalingrad was reporpoised as a target hulk, and promptly ran aground, causing much angst for Glorious Soviet Navy. Once they finally got the thing back off the rocks and into the target range, the Soviets promptly threw 7(!) missiles at it, despite massive damage, the hulk showed no inclination to sink. Further tests continued to mess it up but not sink it for the next six years, by which point he (Russians actually use male pronouns for ships) was probably a bit of a mess and was scrapped.

 

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This seems to be the only image on the internets... Presumably the completed hull section stuck aground.

 

 

Edited by karl0ssus1

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still, AShM's could not truly destroy her and that's an achievement even for a supercruiser that doubles as a battlecruiser. I think there were a couple of hulls that were planned, two were keeled which should be the lead ship Stalingrad and the other Moskva.

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Had never heard of this ship thanks! But had to make one correction:

 

- build huge ass ship that's basically a stopgap between a cruiser and full battleship

- give her sizable guns of 11 to 15 inch

- enable her to chase down anything short of a battleship

- send her out to sea and watch her blow up cruisers out of the water

- send her out to sea to chase a battleship and watch her get blown out of the water in a spectacular ammoracking

 

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Had never heard of this ship thanks! But had to make one correction:

 

- build huge ass ship that's basically a stopgap between a cruiser and full battleship

- give her sizable guns of 11 to 15 inch

- enable her to chase down anything short of a battleship

- send her out to sea and watch her blow up cruisers out of the water

- send her out to sea to chase a battleship and watch her get blown out of the water in a spectacular ammoracking

 

Heligoland Bight where Maass was accidented by the British battlecruiser squadrion was one of the few areas where the battlecruiser did her job... well that and Jutland where both battlecruisers blasted each other and simultaneously whacked each other's ships before the main fleet arrived for the brawl.

 

had the Stalingrad be on the water, its going to be ridiculously big and menacing.

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