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XMAS GIFT: BALANCED MM

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I don't understand? The teams are exactly balanced as always on both sides, so yes it is balanced. 

What is your point? Have you been unfairly treated by the MM compared to the other 23 players? 

Sheesh... 

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Would wager only the Edinburgh player had rights to cry fault, he/ she is the sole players who can said to be handicapped by MM against not only a CA, but a CA that can hard counter her without her offering equal against the Hipper 

But even that one still need to respect this is balanced as @Don72 had put it , the Edinburgh Vs Hipper part is core fault of Cruisers not properly separated to unique types ( minimal should be Heavy and Light all their own type not just Cruisers )

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9 hours ago, Don72 said:

I don't understand? The teams are exactly balanced as always on both sides, so yes it is balanced. 

What is your point? Have you been unfairly treated by the MM compared to the other 23 players? 

Sheesh... 

It's balanced of course, each ship is against the counterpart of same type and tier. However, if you think a game with so many DD and SS is balanced, then I really appreciate your understanding of this game LOL.

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Sounds like someone is looking for an excuse, ANY excuse to just complain.... 

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7 hours ago, dejiko_nyo said:

4 dds + 2 subs each is completely fine. 6 dds each would also be perfectly fine. 

well well 5 or 6 BB per team is not uncommon at all

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On 12/25/2021 at 2:25 PM, Regress1on said:

4 DDs + 2 SSs, what a balanced MM. Well done!

Well five BB's per team is pretty absurd, but unfortunately common.  Four DD's is basically the perfect number for enjoyable games, and two subs are irrelevant because subs are completely irrelevant, having zero impact on anything in their current iteration. 

If I was to improve this team balance, I'd be dropping two BB's for another cruiser and a CV on each team.

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I like the fact that you have varied team line ups. I think it would be rather boring if you always had the same number of various ships each game. 

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21 minutes ago, Ho_Chi_Minge said:

Working as intended

Are you still running constant losses, or do you mean things have turned around?

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6 hours ago, Majmac said:

Are you still running constant losses, or do you mean things have turned around?

Still running at a massive loss. All of a sudden when I hit 50.95% win rate I forget how to win, this is the second time. How the hell do you go from 60% win rate over 21 days to this garbage all of a sudden?

 

Can't get a team that has a fkn clue. 7 days of this.

Ran Matchmaking Monitor for the last 5 days, most teams I get are either low win rate 13k battle garbage (I'd say bots, but WG are firmly in control of that, nope, no bots on this server) or 300 battle new players in 'B'ships.

Got Marceau today, 9 battles, 2 wins. Great DD, super fun and yet another losing streak.

These fkn people would rather sit behind an island, survive and lose than actually make an effort to win. Cowardice, incompetence and ignorance, just like Wot Asia.

I hate this server with a passion, even more than I did a year ago.

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While I am by no means a good player, my win rate has nosedived over the past week or so. A month or so back I was edging towards an overall 49% win rate, but am now down to 45/46% overall (Probably worse after today!). Suddenly, I can't seem to be on a winning team with my Massachusetts.

I was in a few Random games today and other players flatly refused to support, going in the other direction when the opposition showed up. My part became a fighting retreat, but no victory.

I consoled myself with a few games in Operations. 😗

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1 hour ago, Majmac said:

While I am by no means a good player, my win rate has nosedived over the past week or so. A month or so back I was edging towards an overall 49% win rate, but am now down to 45/46% overall (Probably worse after today!). Suddenly, I can't seem to be on a winning team with my Massachusetts.

I was in a few Random games today and other players flatly refused to support, going in the other direction when the opposition showed up. My part became a fighting retreat, but no victory.

I consoled myself with a few games in Operations. 😗

It's certainly hard work at the moment, the level of stupidity is even worse than usual, which is saying a lot.

My personal favourite and most common defeat is the strong flank with 3/4 of my team dying or (lol) running from 1/4 of the enemy team. 

 

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So this topic morphed a little from balanced by ship type to balanced by skill (thereby causing losses).

To the OP's point.  I kinda get what they are saying.  If the DD's get to the rear they can run rampant against the BBs with very little effective countermeasure.  Having 4 DD's and 2 SS per side makes that very likely so for the BBs it is not going to be a fun fight.  But, does not happen often and we have to remember that for the MM system to created that match then there had to be players in sufficient numbers waiting in the queue with those ship types selected.  Don't blame MM for meeting customer wishes.

As far as the losing streaks go.  Is that really MM at fault?  I always thought that MM took into account the player skills but I stand corrected.

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So, it is really working as much as possible to match ship tiers and types.  Perhaps the win / loss streaks are really down to chance in terms of who you get paired up with or against.

What I do not like about the typical win / loss streak posts is that when players are winning it is because they are good yet when they are on a losing streak it is because their team is bad.  Always ready to claim the credit and deflect the blame.  

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14 minutes ago, Rub1c0n said:

What I do not like about the typical win / loss streak posts is that when players are winning it is because they are good yet when they are on a losing streak it is because their team is bad.  Always ready to claim the credit and deflect the blame.  

I agree with this. When I am on a winning team I am thankful that I am on a team that, overall, is competent enough in the game to know how to work together and how to exploit the mistakes of the opposing team.

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Just clicked into a 'random' battle in Marceau. Full tier X battle on North.

Within 5 minutes, 6 of my team were destroyed. The rest of my team went down the 9/10 line (are these lucky numbers? That would explain the love affair these fkn people have for running down there), spotted 2 enemy ships and did the asia server SOP for that situation and milled about for a bit.

After the easily predictable result I checked the stats of every player in that battle. Predictably, I was on a team with 2 players above 50% w/r,  2 above 47% and the rest below 45%. 1 was 8k battles @ 39% with an average damage of 9k.

The enemy team had 2 players under 48%, the rest above 50% and 3 (not in a division) were 55%+.

One sided blowouts are common, and this battle was a perfect example.

We've all had them, on either side, yet for the last 7+ days I am invariably one of the few average players on my team, the rest are nearly always retards with near bot level profiles.

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And again, Marceau, tier 8-10 battle and fucking team melts. CV rushes in during the first 5 minutes like the fkn 42% w/r retard it is and the rest of the useless fucks hide behind islands. Enemy team pushes, predictable result.

Why the fuck am I getting these teams constantly?

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19 minutes ago, Ho_Chi_Minge said:

And again, Marceau, tier 8-10 battle and fucking team melts. CV rushes in during the first 5 minutes like the fkn 42% w/r retard it is and the rest of the useless fucks hide behind islands. Enemy team pushes, predictable result.

Why the fuck am I getting these teams constantly?

Maybe your charming personality just attracts all the good people?  :cap_fainting:

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8 minutes ago, Ho_Chi_Minge said:

It must be that. I was just on a team that squandered an 800 - 400 point advantage.

I am regrinding the UK cruiser line.  Last 3 fights in the Edinburgh.  2 losses 1 win.  In the 2 losses I performed well above my statistical average, in one of them I scored over 90k and got a confederate achievement.  In the win I scored just 14k.

Just got to roll with it.  Getting uptight will actually just make you make bad choices trying to force a win.  Remember no one goes out there with the intention of losing, or playing poorly.  Some make mistakes, some are just not that good at the game.  You cannot do anything about that so don't stress over it.

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