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[TsunamiShenShi]

How you feel when CO-OP completedly destroy by submarine.

[Vizio]

SS kill destroyer, BB kill SS,then who is "destroyer"?😅

[Andy_Siau]

My Leander sunk a sub in Ranked and VICTORY

[New_Jersey_prpr]

Yes,subs killed co-op completely,nothing to farm and you need wait much longer to end a co-op game

[Max_Battle]

The fun part is when you just wait like this...

[iDd_Sloth]

1 hour ago, Max_Battle said:

The fun part is when you just wait like this...

This is what WG labels as "FUN and ENGAGING".
Seems like their ideal game is "Whack-a-Mole".

[SgtSullyNZ]

With subs playing a CV or BB in Co-op is painful as hell, playing a light cruiser or DD is fun and rewarding. So this has blown the co-op meta apart.

But I get what they are trying to do,

Convoy co-op is an option. The new convoy mode will be great for subs in my opinion.

Lets hope we can get through this and to the other side

[Grygus_Triss]

7 hours ago, New_Jersey_prpr said:

Yes,subs killed co-op completely,nothing to farm and you need wait much longer to end a co-op game

Hey WG. It’s difficult to farm in co-op with the subs, here are some suggestions for improvement.

Give subs a lot more HP.

make them bigger targets.

Stop them from going underwater.

give them more armour so BBs don’t blap them before DDs can torp them.

I suppose to be fair we should more range and some main battery guns and secondaries.

There, that should make it easy to farm them.…. Wait, I just described BBs…

Well, we can’t have too many BB like ships around.

So, make sure that the combined number of subs and BBs cannot exceed 5.

Actually, you know what? Just replace all subs with BBs.

There, farming problem fixed.

[DDayCobra]

I think a solution would be to have a mode where there are subs and a mode that doesn't include subs. I'd call the mode without subs as Classic or something like that. Or simply don't use subs, though it would be hard to tell many players not to use subs as there will always be at least some who will still use it.

[SgtSullyNZ]

23 minutes ago, DDayCobra said:

I think a solution would be to have a mode where there are subs and a mode that doesn't include subs. I'd call the mode without subs as Classic or something like that. Or simply don't use subs, though it would be hard to tell many players not to use subs as there will always be at least some who will still use it.

The first time we had a live test  there was a Subs mode, a random match which included Submarines, that is the way to go, and a similar mode in Co-op so you can train up and practise, but not part of the main co-op or random menu at this stage. Do this for a year and then everyone will be settled in and any bugs issues are looked at in full.

I like the subs and the ASW, just do not know how it can be fitted into a very tight 12 vs 12 format at this time and still have the balance you need, people can barely do team work in Random as it is without an increase workload and apathy

[Metal_illness]

There's a bit of a bug with the bot subs, there's often one which is not in any logical combat zones, and teams have to wait for points to reach 1000 for the win. The sub never gets detected.

I see them glitch and get stuck on islands, but the impossible to find subs, aren't there either...

[New_Jersey_prpr]

2 小時前，Grygus_Triss 說：

Hey WG. It’s difficult to farm in co-op with the subs, here are some suggestions for improvement.

Give subs a lot more HP.

make them bigger targets.

Stop them from going underwater.

give them more armour so BBs don’t blap them before DDs can torp them.

I suppose to be fair we should more range and some main battery guns and secondaries.

There, that should make it easy to farm them.…. Wait, I just described BBs…

Well, we can’t have too many BB like ships around.

So, make sure that the combined number of subs and BBs cannot exceed 5.

Actually, you know what? Just replace all subs with BBs.

There, farming problem fixed.

I think it's alright trying to farm more in co-op,it's not random,you'll win most co-op games eventually,and by killing BBs you get more credit and exp,that's good for everyone. Subs are killing quick paced co-op games,which you'll play to finish many missions easily. Playing random all the time is stressful for me.

[SgtSullyNZ]

4 hours ago, New_Jersey_prpr said:

I think it's alright trying to farm more in co-op,it's not random,you'll win most co-op games eventually,and by killing BBs you get more credit and exp,that's good for everyone. Subs are killing quick paced co-op games,which you'll play to finish many missions easily. Playing random all the time is stressful for me.

It is the length of the games that is the issue, playing coop, you should get 5 or 6 games in 1 hour, now it is just 3. 

And that does not improve the game

 

[New_Jersey_prpr]

2 小時前，SgtSullyNZ 說：

you should get 5 or 6 games in 1 hour

A relatively quick co-op game only lasts for 6 mins,so you can actually get 8-10 games an hour if you are lucky

[SgtSullyNZ]

1 minute ago, New_Jersey_prpr said:

A relatively quick co-op game only lasts for 6 mins,so you can actually get 8-10 games an hour if you are lucky

yes, that is a thing there is s wide spectrum prior to  10.8 of between 4 to 10 games an hour. MM permitting, tier and time of the day. 

If you can get 4 games in an hour now in coop, then you have hit the jackpot.