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31 minutes ago, seezer said:

Hello Commanders! 

We have a new post on DevBlog: 

https://blog.worldofwarships.com/blog/174

If you have any comment, please leave your comment/feedback/questions below! Thanks!

T8 Zieten's superstructure looks more Dutch than German.

Please remodel the superstructure to look more German than Dutch.

Thanks.

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7 minutes ago, S0und_Theif said:

T8 Zieten's superstructure looks more Dutch than German.

Please remodel the superstructure to look more German than Dutch.

Thanks.

I think this is based on the superstructure of Admiral Scheer and Graf Spee, which also inspired Dutch naval architecture (represented by De Ruyter IRL) through "IvS", a front organization/engineering company set in the Netherlands to help German companies and engineers to circumvent the Treaty of Versailles.

Though I agree this do resemble Celebes more and is even uglier than the Dutch cruiser. With a second glance it seems that the higher tier ships are plain uglier than the sleek Great War battlecruisers from the mid and lower tiers. And this time I find myself changing the camp as I feel Ersatz Yorck's beauty has been utterly spoiled by the new tower mast.

By the way it seems that WG hasn't abandoned T3 battleships yet and I still misses the Cuniberti Project.

Besides some resemblance may be found on Spanish cruiser Navarra that has also been radically upgraded.

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53 minutes ago, Project45_Opytny said:

By the way it seems that WG hasn't abandoned T3 battleships yet and I still misses the Cuniberti Project.

Either WG did not read enough history or did not have time to finish Italian T3 BB.

But with many feedback and public document, I doubt WG did not read or do not have time to model the T3.

I wonder what is the real reason.

 

Also, WG seem to have missed several tech tree opportunity and focused more on premium ships and monetization.

American BB could have split from T6 instead of T8.
T6 Scheme B "??" (An earlier N Carolina study before they started the Roman Numeral scheme.)
T7 Scheme XIV "Florida" (Should have been tech tree fast batleship and not premium ship.)

Soviet Cruiser could have split from T5 instead of T8.
T5 Preliminary Project 26"Mikoyan" (Should have been tech tree heavy cruiser and not premium ship.)
T6 Project 26bis "Kalinin"
T7 Project ?? "Pytr Bargation" (Turret should resemble Kirov turret and not Donskoi turret. Also should have been tech tree heavy cruiser and not premium ship.)

German DD could have split from T6 instead of T7.
T6 Type 1934A "Z5 Paul Jacobi"

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1 hour ago, S0und_Theif said:

Either WG did not read enough history or did not have time to finish Italian T3 BB.

But with many feedback and public document, I doubt WG did not read or do not have time to model the T3.

I wonder what is the real reason.

 

Also, WG seem to have missed several tech tree opportunity and focused more on premium ships and monetization.

American BB could have split from T6 instead of T8.
T6 Scheme B "??" (An earlier N Carolina study before they started the Roman Numeral scheme.)
T7 Scheme XIV "Florida" (Should have been tech tree fast batleship and not premium ship.)

Soviet Cruiser could have split from T5 instead of T8.
T5 Preliminary Project 26"Mikoyan" (Should have been tech tree heavy cruiser and not premium ship.)
T6 Project 26bis "Kalinin"
T7 Project ?? "Pytr Bargation" (Turret should resemble Kirov turret and not Donskoi turret. Also should have been tech tree heavy cruiser and not premium ship.)

German DD could have split from T6 instead of T7.
T6 Type 1934A "Z5 Paul Jacobi"

I took a glance at the NA Forum and again, even without the ongoing Yukongate,

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WoWS Players are impossible to appease.

For instance, people are complaining that Incomparable brings even more overmatching guns yet the same forum whined about why a super yamato rather than Incomparable when Shikishima/Yashima was first teased. People have asked for German battlecruisers and love for German faction for ages, yet now a guy cried that "buh muh more Nazi fantasty ships I'm quitting". Self entitled naval historian comments that Incomparable should be placed at Tier 7, and sorry for derailing damn it WHERE IS ERSATZ YORCK??? The current Tier 7 seems to be a very deeply modernized Mackensen though it would be impossible to name her historically, as the other two ships from her class were named Graf Spee and Furst Bismarck (presumably) and neither seems appropriate to use in the game.

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On 7/8/2021 at 12:50 AM, Project45_Opytny said:

I took a glance at the NA Forum and again, even without the ongoing Yukongate,

For instance, people are complaining that Incomparable brings even more overmatching guns yet the same forum whined about why a super yamato rather than Incomparable when Shikishima/Yashima was first teased. People have asked for German battlecruisers and love for German faction for ages, yet now a guy cried that "buh muh more Nazi fantasty ships I'm quitting". Self entitled naval historian comments that Incomparable should be placed at Tier 7, and sorry for derailing damn it WHERE IS ERSATZ YORCK??? The current Tier 7 seems to be a very deeply modernized Mackensen though it would be impossible to name her historically, as the other two ships from her class were named Graf Spee and Furst Bismarck (presumably) and neither seems appropriate to use in the game.

Those are very few people (sometimes only 1 person) and not majority of the playerbase / community.

 

It's not that the playerbase / community is hard to appease.

It's WG and Lesta just do counter-productive things since 2019, why playerbase / community are not happy. Not only in WoWs but also in WoT.

CV rework was such a disaster when released. And still unbalanced 2 years after implementation
Naval Training Center (renamed to Research Bureau). Very bad idea, but still went ahead and force it to the game. 2 years after implementation, WG did a lot fo things to beg players to use Research bureau. WG beg!
Puerto Rico fiasco. And Lesta CEO's very unprofessional response towards the playerbase / community. (I have no words / speechless on this event. No amount of words can describe how horrible WG and Lesta handled this event.)
Gap between F2P and P2A players increase. In the past you can earn ship by playing game. Now, you can not earn ship even if you play. Need money to get ship.
More premium ships and less tech tree main line and branch line. More focus on monetization and less focus on improving the game and the game's QoL.
Operations. WG say they are not working on operations. 2 years later, WG say operations are unpopular. How can it be unpopular when every time WG stream, players ask for operations.
Bots (unsportsmanlike players) are increasing in the game again lately. And they are getting more difficult to detect. WG also do not perma ban these players. They only sanction them for 14 days. After sanction, back botting again.

And WG ask for feedback, but defend all this bad idea when playerbase / community has feedback. WG refuse to listen (up until late 2020. But still not listen to sensible feedback.).
Edit:
Scrap that last sentence. I was very happy that WG did not put 7 Province as a discriminatory dockyard ship, up until yesterday (July 9). WG does not listen to feedback.

 

Why playerbase are not happy, playerbase is not paying, playerbase is not playing, playerbase are leaving, playerbase do not advertise and recommend the game to anyone.

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On 7/7/2021 at 11:50 PM, Project45_Opytny said:

and sorry for derailing damn it WHERE IS ERSATZ YORCK??? The current Tier 7 seems to be a very deeply modernized Mackensen though it would be impossible to name her historically, as the other two ships from her class were named Graf Spee and Furst Bismarck (presumably) and neither seems appropriate to use in the game.

With the confirmation from stream that the Prinz Heinrich has 380 mm guns, I can say, with enough confidence, that the ship is an Ersatz Yorck.

I mean the ship is fairly modernized (consider the funnel), but it's still very similar to the Ersatz Yorck.

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On 7/8/2021 at 4:05 AM, S0und_Theif said:

<dispensed like Legendary German Dispersion(tm)>

Hard to appease? I'm easily appeasable with adjustments to MM, cranking OPs to HARD by +1 tiering all the bot ships in ops. +/-1 MM is just a simple single character change in the code base. How difficult is that compared to digging out obscure and non-existent plans for ships and then spending months balancing submarines? I can see why they have made recent decisions and it is not improvements for the benefit of the players. 3 words:

$ ¥ £

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