Yukon - some quick notes

[S4pp3R]

So I picked up Yukon and played a stack of ranked games with her.

I will be doing a BLUF on her in future but for now I’m on Royal Navy Light Cruisers and I prefer to finish ship line reviews as a series, rather than interrupt them with odd balls, so this will have to do for now, this is just my random thoughts and key things about her. So far I’ve just been smashing ranked with her and she does quite well if you are a solid BB player.

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I’ve recently reviewed Emerald, Vampire II and Mysore.

Yukon

 

The easiest way to explain Yukon is that at her core she is a 381 mm KGV without buffed HE pen.

In World of Warships this is expressed as Monarch at T8 so Yukon shares many traits with both Monarch and KGV. That explains her as a starting point but to leave it at that isn’t fair to her.

The best way to describe Yukon is this; Yukon is a mid-range ambusher.

Yukon with Concealment Expert has a concealment of 11.5km and an air detect of 8.2 km.

Yukon has a gun range of 15.7km and a spotter plane to boost it.

Yukon has Monarchs 381s with a poorer reload, better dispersion and less punchy HE.

While her HE can hurt, her primary weapon is her short fuse AP.

And it’s your primary weapon to the degree that I wouldn’t run Gun Feeder, but Preventative Maintenance instead because you are often at ranges where enemies can knock out turrets.

A key thing to note about her short fuse AP is that you are more likely to get pens than overpens but you will also more likely get pens instead of citadels against many BBs.

Her AA is concentrated in her ‘mid’ range, which is 2.5km, so effectively that means her AA is concentrated in her short range. It’s ok at those ranges but is otherwise average for tier.

One thing worth mentioning is her rudder shift. She has 9.7 second rudder shift. This isn’t quite Vanguard levels but it’s in the Cruiser spectrum of rudder shift and helps.

The final major point to mention with Yukon is that she has a super heal, and 4 of them with Emergency Repair Expert. She can heal back a LOT of damage. Fires are subsequently something you can deal with given time, pen and citadel damage - not so much. As with all T7 BBs she has 26mm plating, and this is overmatched by 380mm guns. And that’s all BB guns at T8 and higher and many at Tier 7.

 

Overall, Yukon is strong but has her weaknesses, notably her range and T7 armour.

She’s a mid-range ship and does really well in Tier 7 matches. At tier 8, she will still be respectable.

At tier 9 I suspect she will be completely outclassed, simply because of her limited range, as everything else about her is solid.

Yukon is amazing for ranked, randoms I’m yet to decide, I will likely play her like an oversized Cruiser and that may mean she’s great or hard to play.

And all of this will be subject to how much she has to deal with CV spotting, as her air detect of 8.2km is pretty rough.

 

So Yukon - worth picking up for those with the money and who like playing T7 ranked.

 

She’s a mid-range ambusher with an amazing heal to help her survive.

Build:

1. PM

3. GtG

6. AR, 18. BoS

10. CE, 14. FP, 21. ERE

MB1, DC1, AS, DC2.

[iDd_Sloth]

Seems like we're getting new ships bi-monthly now.
And I just bought the Ise last month.
They sure are mining hard the community for $$$.
Must resist buying new ship!
There's 2 new BB's coming the American T8 and the Russian T8.
Not to mention there's Kearsarge too at T9.
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Also forgot there's also Repulse at T6 coming. That's 4 new BB's.

[S0und_Theif]

20 minutes ago, iDd_Sloth said:

Seems like we're getting new ships bi-monthly now.
And I just bought the Ise last month.
They sure are mining hard the community for $$$.
Must resist buying new ship!
There's 2 new BB's coming the American T8 and the Russian T8.
Not to mention there's Kearsarge too at T9.
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Also forgot there's also Repulse at T6 coming. That's 4 new BB's.

If WG continues to whale their community this hard, there will be a whale shortage soon.

[iDd_Sloth]

1 hour ago, S0und_Theif said:

If WG continues to whale their community this hard, there will be a whale shortage soon.

Overfishing! They want to extract money as fast as they can while it's still breathing!
Just like a hospital!
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edit:
I've read about LittleWhiteMouse's journey and how WG treated her with this ship ... I guess I'd be abstaining for this one in support for her.

[Project45_Opytny]

2 hours ago, S0und_Theif said:

If WG continues to whale their community this hard, there will be a whale shortage soon.

You can visit the NA Community and read about Littlewhitemouse's recollection on how "HMCS Yukon" has been proposed and developed, and more importantly, her disappointment and frustration about how WG handled this excellent chance that could have please many players across the world for showing good will.

The only remains of LWM and Chobittsu's efforts on the ship are her general configuration (a Monarch clone to save efforts), her name (chosen among three candidates) and the image of a husky for her commemorative flag. Even if WG staffs do have some different ideas on how the ship should be made and balanced, a number of proposed details that reflect ideas to represent Yukon and the Canadian Navy are ignored, or "butchered". Like the two Canadian CCs originally suggests that her permacamo should pay homage to HMCS Sackville who represents the numerous escort ships, many served in RCN, that guarded trans-Atlantic convoys against German subs and the more detailed flag proposal consists of husky and fireweed.

2 hours ago, iDd_Sloth said:

I guess I'd be abstaining for this one in support for her.

Not to say that the ship seems extremely niche for a restricted environment like T7 Ranked battles (and even some T6 cruisers outrange her. While it may be agrued that Sinop is a similar "niche" choice, she can be earned for free) and I am not a Canadian.

[Thyaliad]

Going to pass on this one.

[S4pp3R]

8 hours ago, Project45_Opytny said:

The only remains of LWM and Chobittsu's efforts on the ship are her general configuration (a Monarch clone to save efforts), her name (chosen among three candidates) and the image of a husky for her commemorative flag. Even if WG staffs do have some different ideas on how the ship should be made and balanced, a number of proposed details that reflect ideas to represent Yukon and the Canadian Navy are ignored, or "butchered". Like the two Canadian CCs originally suggests that her permacamo should pay homage to HMCS Sackville who represents the numerous escort ships, many served in RCN, that guarded trans-Atlantic convoys against German subs and the more detailed flag proposal consists of husky and fireweed.

Yeah I was reading that.

I don't necessarily 100% agree with LWM but she generally got everything right with Yukon.

I would say Yukons gunnery is more consistent than her review would indicate.

But as for the saga; it sounds like a classic case of miscommunication.

The thing is if LWM is even mostly accurate it's also classic WG. No acknowledgement or communication about the feedback. If there had been I suspect the whole issue would have been spotted and mitigated far earlier on.

Honestly I suspect it was something as simple as:

"Can you help us design a ship for Canada Day?"

That can be read in English (for those not first-language) as "Help us by designing a ship" or "Help us with our design of a ship".

So one being help WG with their design, the other is to help them by designing one for them.

My knowledge of languages is lacking but from memory many other languages wouldn't have this issue because of tense and structure.

And in isolation this miscommunication is understandable given the language barriers and the filters (WG NA) that the messaging would go through...

But, as usual, if WG devs were more open and communicated more effectively the whole thing could have been avoided. It only continued it seems because there wasn't a clarified discussion on services for output.

In the design world, this is often covered by a design brief; what the client wants by when for what. Unfortunately all those involved don't appear to have a background in this sort of thing. (If they did, this is such a common issue it would be apparent).

I really feel for LWM and Chobbi, I know what this feels like (work stuffs)... It is sadly common.

8 hours ago, Project45_Opytny said:

Not to say that the ship seems extremely niche for a restricted environment like T7 Ranked battles (and even some T6 cruisers outrange her. While it may be agrued that Sinop is a similar "niche" choice, she can be earned for free) and I am not a Canadian.

Sinop is so strong largely because of her Icebreaker that mitigates the key weakness of T7 BBs, that most overmatch themselves.

Yukon will be a hard ship for them to tweak if they want to buff her for T9 play.

The major area would be range, but I'm fairly sure they want to keep her short range gimmick.

Also any buffs makes her even stronger at T7, and she's pretty great as top tier.

If they do buff her I suspect it'll be turning circle and little bit of rudder and/or air detect.

Personally I'd like to see better dispersion (not sigma), as she has the wonky Monarch dispersion but without the benefits of the HE. (Note, a tad wonky, not the sort of inconsistent LWM indicated IMO).

I wouldn't say she's hyper niche, but somewhat, yes.

I'll know with more testing in randoms, my current forray has been a few un-salvageable team collapses that didn't give me much opportunity to gauge her ability against the T8s and T9s...

[S4pp3R]

7 hours ago, Thyaliad said:

Going to pass on this one.

Completely fair, as a Scenarios and Commonwealth fan, she was worth picking up for me.