Can we rely on team?

[LeoN1das]

I'd somewhere heard about this.
 

"YOU CAN NOT RELYING ON YOUR TEAM."

Well ... i can't expected it too, since we are not really have good communication in match either. So does it matter? relying on your team? 

Just today, when i'm was using shoukaku and 2 Rigas just doing nothing and late to activated their radar to scout Shiratsuyu the only dd in the match and they both die 5 minutes later coz their own fault. I don't feel any regrets or whatever it is. Coz my job is not only to supporting 2 clueless radar ships with less than 500 battles and babysitting them. Sometimes even the chat box can be full from my radio messages and my team just ignored it and do whatever they like. Of course after that i sure got report and love letter "CV NMSL or CV SB."
 

when i lose . I was wondering about these questions:

1. Can team be dependable?

2. Can i rely on them and them just doing their duty, therefore i can helping them?

3. And why they always keep asking for help while they are not helping themself?

Keep this thread healthy, captains.

[Skarhabek]

stop giving shit about win rate and stat, the stat only show you how good is the player.... it never tell how much fun...

WoWs is no longer competitive for me after RTS CV removal, RTS CV is the only solution carry noob team.....

to balance RTS CV is very simple, JUST BAN Division for CV.....

 

my advice is STOP TRYING TO WIN, screeeww the objective. 

TRY TO SINK AS MANY SHIP AS POSSIBLE, and return alive!

 

 

LOOK AT BIG HUNT MODE.... WHAY ITS SO FUN? because the objective is simple, SINK and SURVIVE!

 

[mr_glitchy_R]

"A true unicum knows, that his team may not be dependable. But are crucial to victory (They can at least do damage). And every time a salvo is taken from them, the chance of victory adds up." -Yuro

You see, your team is not something you should rely on every time. You should see them like something that can support you to victory. Not something that will bring you to victory.

 

[LeoN1das]

23 minutes ago, mr_glitchy_R said:

"A true unicum knows, that his team may not be dependable. But are crucial to victory (They can at least do damage). And every time a salvo is taken from them, the chance of victory adds up." -Yuro

You see, your team is not something you should rely on every time. You should see them like something that can support you to victory. Not something that will bring you to victory.

 

Indeed, but most of cases is not like that. I can not bring myself into victory without my team,

But, we need to rely on each other right? Since we need teamwork to achieve victory. Like cv scout the enemy team, radar ships now what need to do when cap zone being cap by dd and still undetected, BB at least got 1-3 hit from long range salvo, DD capping and supporting the backline.

I agree with what Yuro and you said, in reality i can not see them as a way for supporting "US" to victory. While sometimes they busy with their egos and etc.

I used word "US" because i need my team to lead us for victory. i can not win without them too. But they seems don't have willing to win. 

[Sharr_Dextera]

Sometimes they are dependable, but mostly not. Consider that this kind of condition are one of the path to be a good player (even unicum level).

[SpearF1sher]

it makes those times when you get a random group of 12 ships and they turn out to be a team so much better, saviour those times . when not, put on the mission impossible theme song and maximise your damage and points....

Even better games .... when both groups are teams, ships being used as intended, first kill isn't till the second quarter and it goes down to the wire. win or lose GG

[Mr_Good_Citizen]

“Out of every one hundred men, ten shouldn’t even be there, eighty are just targets, nine are the real fighters, and we are lucky to have them, for they make the battle. Ah, but the one, one is a warrior, and he will bring the others back.”

— Heraclitus, some dude that lived a long time ago.

[RalphTheTheatreCat]

Just remember.  This applies to winning and losing.

[Rina_Pon]

12 hours ago, LeoN1das said:

1. Can team be dependable?

2. Can i rely on them and them just doing their duty, therefore i can helping them?

3. And why they always keep asking for help while they are not helping themself?

As you get better, you learn to "read the room" as it were. You can judge how reliable your teammates are from where their ships are and what they are doing.

You can also understand what each one is trying to achieve. There are many paths to victory, so it helps to keep an open mind and be ready to change plan.

Ask not whether your team is dependable, but rather what you can do to make your team more dependable. Players tend to move relative to perceived threats and perceived safety. If you can change those perceptions (by moving your ship to screen or spot or distract an enemy) often you'll see your teammates start moving the way you want them to.

 

[Storm_Khan]

Given that you are allocated to a random team of various people with different playstyles, ways of thinking, level of experience or even bots there can be no expectation of a "reliable" team. If you get one then congrats to you. Not having played with any of them let alone coordinating between players who likely do not even all speak the same language is expecting far more than is reasonable to have them be "reliable". Once you accept the reality of this then the game is going to be more enjoyable than when you are stressing about the other players not being able to be relied on.

[Grygus_Triss]

2 hours ago, RalphTheTheatreCat said:

Just remember.  This applies to winning and losing.

Key word being ALL.

Not all your failures will be down to you. In theory, over a large number of games, assuming that team composition is truely random regarding skills, your win rate will roughly reflect your performance.

Some games you will play poorly, and your team will carry you to victory.

Some games you will play outstandingly, ever better than the MVP on the other team, and your team will still lose.

Some times, most times, the outcome of a game will accurately reflect your actual skills.

But as far as relying on your team mates? 
Go into each battle hoping for best and expecting the worst. Evaluate each team mate on their actions in that battle (but don’t judge, everyone has a bad game now and then), and make decisions accordingly.

[dejiko_nyo]

Relying on 8ball is much more effective than relying on your team.

[LeoN1das]

3 hours ago, RalphTheTheatreCat said:

Just remember.  This applies to winning and losing.

So. All of mvp player who did their best lose because playerbase.

This is unacceptable. I don't understand with your words captain.

Why I need to blame myself for doing my best to lead my team to victroy while the rest even act like a bot.

Note: I feel sad if I become 1 of the guy in your picture. Sorry for that.

[RalphTheTheatreCat]

The point is that you are the only constant in all your battles no matter if they are good or bad.   Why worry about the other players.  Just strive to do your best.

[Sharr_Dextera]

6 hours ago, RalphTheTheatreCat said:

The point is that you are the only constant in all your battles no matter if they are good or bad.   Why worry about the other players.  Just strive to do your best.

Agreed with this.

[Ralgon]

If you want to rely on a team get a clan. Otherwise just roll with it. Even typing in chat doesn't guarantee your team reads the language you type.

 

Teamwork is op, mkay?