The game is extremely unfair in terms of shooting accuracy.

[c3p_]

The game is extremely unfair in terms of shooting accuracy. I'm a computer specialist and I know it's about software setup. I understand that you want to make a difference between those who buy WARSHIPS PREMIUM ACCOUNT but the rest are treated extremely unfairly.

If you look at my account you will see that I am currently playing a lot and trying everything. But I'm very angry at your dishonest practices of giving even accurate hits like ricochets or non-penetration until players with Premium account hit almost everytime even without other skills, flag's, or camouflages.

Even after buying doublones and developing all the necessary captain skills, using all flag's and type of camouflages this has NOT changed. Now I have arround 1800 battles with diffеrеnt cruisers i battleships.

I am extremely angry and dissatisfied. In my opinion, these software settings are close to fraudulent methods of manipulating people to constantly pay for a premium account.

You will no longer see 1 euro from me and I will try to raise this problem very much everywhere on the Internet until you change your extremely dishonest attitude.

[Ireina_Victorica]

15 minutes ago, c3p_ said:

I understand that you want to make a difference between those who buy WARSHIPS PREMIUM ACCOUNT but the rest are treated extremely unfairly.

Haha funny. Wait this isn't a joke?

My faith in humanity eroded a bit

15 minutes ago, c3p_ said:

If you look at my account you will see that I am currently playing a lot and trying everything. But I'm very angry at your dishonest practices of giving even accurate hits like ricochets or non-penetration until players with Premium account hit almost everytime even without other skills, flag's, or camouflages.

Can you provide any proof? By that i mean actual cold hard data, not just allegorical/anecdotal "evidence". 

15 minutes ago, c3p_ said:

Even after buying doublones and developing all the necessary captain skills, using all flag's and type of camouflages this has NOT changed. Now I have arround 1800 battles with diffеrеnt cruisers i battleships.

Maybe that's because of you not improving rather than the game cheats on you? Also you have exactly 849 and 186 battles in BB and cruisers respectively. All that with very sub-standard hit ratio, and in general very poor performance. Perhaps try to actually learn than blame external forces? There's a difference between criticizing Wargaming for their malicious activities, and there's pure hate blame for own's failure.

15 minutes ago, c3p_ said:

I am extremely angry and dissatisfied. In my opinion, these software settings are close to fraudulent methods of manipulating people to constantly pay for a premium account.

You will no longer see 1 euro from me and I will try to raise this problem very much everywhere on the Internet until you change your extremely dishonest attitude.

Cool, it's not like you earn WG much anyway. And i rejoice, less plebians to team up with.

[Aegis_Deceit]

24 minutes ago, c3p_ said:

The game is extremely unfair in terms of shooting accuracy. I'm a computer specialist and I know it's about software setup. I understand that you want to make a difference between those who buy WARSHIPS PREMIUM ACCOUNT but the rest are treated extremely unfairly.

If you look at my account you will see that I am currently playing a lot and trying everything. But I'm very angry at your dishonest practices of giving even accurate hits like ricochets or non-penetration until players with Premium account hit almost everytime even without other skills, flag's, or camouflages.

Even after buying doublones and developing all the necessary captain skills, using all flag's and type of camouflages this has NOT changed. Now I have arround 1800 battles with diffеrеnt cruisers i battleships.

I am extremely angry and dissatisfied. In my opinion, these software settings are close to fraudulent methods of manipulating people to constantly pay for a premium account.

You will no longer see 1 euro from me and I will try to raise this problem very much everywhere on the Internet until you change your extremely dishonest attitude.

Waiting on the charts/graphs to show the benefits of having a premium account over a standard account in the context of dispersion. Mind you, this is for dispersion, without factoring in the human factor of having your lead distance/time and the experience of the target's captain in handling incoming fire.

[Paladinum]

19 minutes ago, c3p_ said:

If you look at my account you will see that I am currently playing a lot and trying everything.

You have a pitiful number of ships in your port, even for someone with only 2k battles, even more pitiful if you do pay for premium time and such.

 

21 minutes ago, c3p_ said:

But I'm very angry at your dishonest practices of giving even accurate hits like ricochets or non-penetration until players with Premium account hit almost everytime even without other skills, flag's, or camouflages.

First of all, it's more like you barely understand game mechanics and don't have much experience with the game, if at all. This is amazing because new players can't just buy a T8/9 premium ship and hope to win every battle.

Second, how do you know that the other players hit you better if they have premium time, and how do you know that they do have premium time?

[Grygus_Triss]

Hmmm.

Ok. I run Premium, so let’s compare stats.

From detailed statistics overall, I have 27% main battery hit rate. You have 22%. So clearly Premium gives me greater accuracy?

Hmmm. Lets look deeper, are there any other reasons?

Well... let’s just look at the obvious. Assuming this is your first account, you’ve been playing for less than 4 months, just over 1000 random games, Vs my 4 years and 6000 random games.

So there is a significant experience gap. I certainly didn’t consider myself skilled after 4 months.

Also, At present I play at T8 plus. Whereas at present, half your games are T7 and below, where accuracy is generally worse. You accuracy will probably go up as you play higher tier ships more.

[c3p_]

1 hour ago, Earl_of_Arland said:

Maybe that's because of you not improving rather than the game cheats on you? Also you have exactly 849 and 186 battles in BB and cruisers respectively. All that with very sub-standard hit ratio, and in general very poor performance. Perhaps try to actually learn than blame external forces? There's a difference between criticizing Wargaming for their malicious activities, and there's pure hate blame for own's failure.

First I was playing in my son's account. After he was deleted it becouse of the same reason I start my personal account. From few days my son starting again his new account and now we try fight together in a clan battles.

When I played with a promotional PREMIUM i had 70% more hits and succesful maded damages of different kind of battles. So don't tell me that is not software tricks.

1. And how the game takes a decisions to put in 65% of plays such a enemies 1-2-3 tiers above me and why? 

2. When I use t8 and t9 ships in 60% of the games I am a weakest ship in the team. WHY?

Can someone explain me that?

[Lowyat]

42 minutes ago, c3p_ said:

When I played with a promotional PREMIUM i had 70% more hits and succesful maded damages of different kind of battles. So don't tell me that is not software tricks

nonsense. you'll get good hits it it was against bots, which is most likely the first 100 battles in account even playing in random battles. humans will just dodge to mitigate damage.

proof in replay then I'll believe.

44 minutes ago, c3p_ said:

1. And how the game takes a decisions to put in 65% of plays such a enemies 1-2-3 tiers above me and why? 

2. When I use t8 and t9 ships in 60% of the games I am a weakest ship in the team. WHY?

it used to be 90% until matchmaker was changed for cap on bottom tiered player session. Simply because majority player plays higher tiers. Not enough humans to feed lower tier games.

[c3p_]

Maybe they should give everyone a choice to choose with what maximum difference in the tier levels of the ships will be his enemies.

If I am t8 I can not want to play against t10 and I can not want to be a weakest ship in a team. The automatic is too unfair.

Especially when I use t8 and t9 ships. Really unfair.

And there's no way I can pay with money if I don't think it's fair.

Are you sure that 90% of players using only tier 9 and 10 ships in the game? With such software settings, how do developers expect to retain and attract more players and more purchases? No way!

3. The other dishonest thing is - how does the software decide to distribute players with success above average? Does he put them in one team, does he distribute them in diffrent or does he not look at it at all when assembling the team?

[Aegis_Deceit]

4 hours ago, c3p_ said:

Maybe they should give everyone a choice to choose with what maximum difference in the tier levels of the ships will be his enemies.

If I am t8 I can not want to play against t10 and I can not want to be a weakest ship in a team. The automatic is too unfair.

Especially when I use t8 and t9 ships. Really unfair.

And there's no way I can pay with money if I don't think it's fair.

Are you sure that 90% of players using only tier 9 and 10 ships in the game? With such software settings, how do developers expect to retain and attract more players and more purchases? No way!

3. The other dishonest thing is - how does the software decide to distribute players with success above average? Does he put them in one team, does he distribute them in diffrent or does he not look at it at all when assembling the team?

If that choice was given, you'd see no sane T8 player tick for a fight against TX, while no sane T6 would tick for a fight against a T8 willingly.

To be fair, no one is asking you to pay anything for this game.


I've attached an image of the ships you're currently holding for random. Based on what I can see, you've focused primarily on IJN line and have not run other things. While I cannot provide evidence that the demographic of players are clustered inT9 to TX, I'd like to point out that Rank + Clan Brawls is mostly only held from T8 and upwards, where the Exp required to jump tiers has increased greatly from T6 and T7, where operations farming is viable. Hence leading to the likelihood of a choke point at the higher tiers of this game.

 

Regarding dishonesty, what is your current skill level set at and how do you profile someone as good or bad? I've stated this comment elsewhere before and my reply was this: If WG implemented a skills-based MM, it'd become a fistfight more so than rank currently is. This brings me to the next point, you can run rank instead if you're concerned about skills distribution per team.
 

6 hours ago, c3p_ said:

First I was playing in my son's account. After he was deleted it becouse of the same reason I start my personal account. From few days my son starting again his new account and now we try fight together in a clan battles.

When I played with a promotional PREMIUM i had 70% more hits and succesful maded damages of different kind of battles. So don't tell me that is not software tricks.

1. And how the game takes a decisions to put in 65% of plays such a enemies 1-2-3 tiers above me and why? 

2. When I use t8 and t9 ships in 60% of the games I am a weakest ship in the team. WHY?

Can someone explain me that?

 

On the note of how you measured your accuracy based on your premium time, can you provide statistics to support it? Else based on my personal experience, it could be mental conditioning to maximise the premium time, hence leading to better concentration which results in better results, hence meaning better overall accuracy or damage output. The novelty wears off if you have a lot of premium time. 

[Max_Battle]

8 hours ago, c3p_ said:

The game is extremely unfair in terms of shooting accuracy. I'm a computer specialist and I know it's about software setup. I understand that you want to make a difference between those who buy WARSHIPS PREMIUM ACCOUNT but the rest are treated extremely unfairly.

If you look at my account you will see that I am currently playing a lot and trying everything. But I'm very angry at your dishonest practices of giving even accurate hits like ricochets or non-penetration until players with Premium account hit almost everytime even without other skills, flag's, or camouflages.

Even after buying doublones and developing all the necessary captain skills, using all flag's and type of camouflages this has NOT changed. Now I have arround 1800 battles with diffеrеnt cruisers i battleships.

I am extremely angry and dissatisfied. In my opinion, these software settings are close to fraudulent methods of manipulating people to constantly pay for a premium account.

You will no longer see 1 euro from me and I will try to raise this problem very much everywhere on the Internet until you change your extremely dishonest attitude.

I completely sympathise with you.

You are correct on all counts and I understand and feel your pain.

Well, all counts except one.

You are right when you get that feeling that the game is stacked against you somehow. It's not paranoia when they really are out to get you... and "they" are very much out to get you... I guarantee it.

No, it has nothing to do with skill or experience or knowing armour penetration values or knowing when to use different ammunition types.

No.

Nothing to do with your ability to rationally asses and intuit system affects on your personal experience.

It comes down to...

...and what is that thing?

Karma.

Or, to be more accurate, makra - or to be even more explicit - MAKRA GUD.

Look on your account - you can do it in game - look at my screenshot to see where to find it.

See that number to the right and above my name?

It's no mistake that it looks like an indice - something that a computer expert like yourself would obviously recognise.

That number makes me exponentially better.

Max to the power of 106.

That's pretty damn powerful, son.

Max x Max x Max... 106 times.

I mean, wow.

The higher your MAKRA gets the more accurate your main guns, the more flak bursts you get and your rudder shift improves.

I mean these are just some of the obvious improvements you get.

There is so much hidden coding and software setups in the background (that you accurately just figured out with your brain) that its hard to know all the ways that MAKRA GUD but trust bruv, MAKRA is indeed GUD and will make you better.

So now the only question is...

How do you get MAKRA?

Easy - when in game, constantly tell eveyone how great they are.

Always upvote everyone, especially anyone in a CV or a Smollensk.

It's easy - just say things like, "I reckon you would smell good in real life".

Or you could try just spamming "Well Done Commander!" at everyone, every time someone does something - people love that. It's F11 - oh wait, you already knew that because you are a computer expert.

There are many ways to get people upvoting you and getting you MAKRA.

You do you.

I'm sure it will work out.

Good luck!

[c3p_]

Few times I was wondered that players with aircraft t8 can not target well it all. Whether they use bombers or torpedo aircrafts. While the enemy aircraft carrier makes 4-5 dives, they cannot hit even once. I just couldn't understand how such a players are come only in mine team and not once in the enemy team.
And every time I wished never more playing again with them.

 

That explains everything.

Thanks for the specific answer.

You have 2 Karma points from me 🙂

I will remeber your nick and your clan like trully honest players.

[Epicurus_]

Impressive..

[RalphTheTheatreCat]

Well played @Max_Battle

[Dingo57]

Is it April 1st already, I must have slept well last night.

Must be an April Fools joke, no one is this short of brain cells.

Amazing how many people are Software Programers or Computor Specilists these days, bloody amazing, Ahh well such is the world today.

 

[c3p_]

5 hours ago, Dingo57 said:

Is it April 1st already, I must have slept well last night.

Must be an April Fools joke, no one is this short of brain cells.

Amazing how many people are Software Programers or Computor Specilists these days, bloody amazing, Ahh well such is the world today.

 

Do you deny that there are a lot of software strange things?

Especially when it comes to the supposedly random selection of teams?

By what criteria someone who is 2-3 levels below everyone else placed in the team are in this team and why?

Why in a large number of battles in 70% of them in my team fall 1-2 bots or noobs while in the opponent team are only extremely experienced players who do not miss? Especially, for example, with regard to the T8 aircraft carrier player. This is not by any chance, nor a random number generator. What is the chance that this happens so much in constant play?

Would you give any logical explanation for this?

Whatever the reason, I do not agree at all and I will not tolerate it. If it doesn't change over time I will migrate to games from other developers.

Enjoyable game for everyone who these things doesn't mind.

[RalphTheTheatreCat]

As a  computer specialist surely you have collated the data you can show us?  I would love to see it.

[dejiko_nyo]

There is no doubt there is some bias in MM because there is no way that 4 thunderers, a montana, GK, Yamato and conqueror can be distributed where one team has 3 thunderers and a conqueror while the other team has the montana, GK, Yamato and the remaining thunderer. IF luck favours you. Otherwise all the thunderers will be on one team. 

The point is that unless we take apart MM's code and analyse it, there is no definite way to prove this. 

Also, no where does it say that buying a premium account grants you superior accuracy.

[Aegis_Deceit]

37 minutes ago, dejiko_nyo said:

There is no doubt there is some bias in MM because there is no way that 4 thunderers, a montana, GK, Yamato and conqueror can be distributed where one team has 3 thunderers and a conqueror while the other team has the montana, GK, Yamato and the remaining thunderer. IF luck favours you. Otherwise all the thunderers will be on one team. 

The point is that unless we take apart MM's code and analyse it, there is no definite way to prove this. 

Also, no where does it say that buying a premium account grants you superior accuracy.

All you need is 1 good thunderer to CC the other 3 if they don't know what to do.

[dejiko_nyo]

18 minutes ago, Aegis_Deceit said:

All you need is 1 good thunderer to CC the other 3 if they don't know what to do.

What if its you, me and papa in the other 3 thunderers?

[Aegis_Deceit]

On 3/11/2021 at 4:25 PM, dejiko_nyo said:

What if its you, me and papa in the other 3 thunderers?

Then we run this track as we farm fires.

 

 

[PapaMeep]

On 3/10/2021 at 4:42 PM, c3p_ said:

If you look at my account you will see that I am currently playing a lot and trying everything. But I'm very angry at your dishonest practices of giving even accurate hits like ricochets or non-penetration until players with Premium account hit almost everytime even without other skills, flag's, or camouflages.

I have 2 account, 1 free account, and one mother of whaling account that when I see how many premium days I had I almost peed myself. 

 

Happy to report that I am as potato in both of the account. Maybe in one account I can be categorized as a PREMIUM POTATO. If I know somebody that should be getting a favor from WG that would be me on just how much I spent ....

 

the potatoness remain though....

[c3p_]

Can anyone explain to me why in a volley from a BB only one projectile falls in the last 1 millimeter of the ship and the software gives the shooter 25-30K damages?

This happens to me 6 times, until the game has given it to me not once it all. Such dishonest practices always leave doubts about the advantage of certain players over all others.

Also why a fleet of a 7 km range disapear without nothing until I am with smoke? Why often I can not see BB in a 4-7 km when use smoke. That is very dishonest practices of developers.

[c3p_]

The game software remain extremely dishonest and unfair. 

No doubt!

Not recommended this game it all. It has much better alteranitives.

[CorvusArgento]

Sorry people but I did not find any where else to talk about how unfair is the Match Making in Rando battles.

Let me know where to post this, if not here.

I stop playing today (only 3 battles), after my two last battles, the enemy team had an extra Destroyer an ISE and 2 CVs. Our team had only 1 Destroyer and 2 CVs. This is not a fair match, as you can count the ISE as a 3rd CV. Being in a Cavour, slow and poorly and no AAs to use... how the heck you can avoid 3 CVs attacking you at the same time, plus the DD lurking near you?!!! Is this fair?