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Some noobs ruins others game.How they reached tier 10 I don't know.

There was a Daring and he switched off his AA for the whole match.At first I took him as my escort but teamwork is a word used to make jokes.

My last problem-F**k CV's.Upcoming updates also would not change cv mechanics for spotting.CV only farm free damage.I played 30 matches on SEA server and was killed only in 2 of them with 76% w/r on tier 6 against tier 8(mostly).

I want honest answer from experienced players-What is the definition of OP?Because a single cv can alter the tactics of 12 other ships whereas any other ship class can only affect it's flank only.F**k.Because of easy spotting 6 ships focus fire on you.CV spotting should be balanced rather than selling legendary for 55k doubloons

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10 minutes ago, PATHAK12345 said:

Some noobs ruins others game.How they reached tier 10 I don't know.

You reached T10 in like 500 matches.

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Noobs/Shitters exist in all games, this is not limited to World Of Warships only. This so called noobs are present in every single game and without them, I wouldn't have my Purple PR.
And how do noobs reach T10? Well, if it isn't obvious enough, it is by simply playing the game. Play enough games and you will get enough XP to progress. Heck there are players who only play COOP yet are able to grind all this T10s.
As how frustrating this shit can be, we just got to suck it up. Having a bad run? I have a solution, Take A Break. If you do so choose to continue playing after being tilted, it's on you and you are to be blamed for it.

Let me be brief, you are talking about your Ryujo stats which is at T6. Yes, 76% is nice as in those tiers, players with a somewhat functioning brain can play and turn the tide of battle. Or perhaps you got fairly lucky. Who knows.
And killed in only 2 of those 30 games? Well, that is to be expected. Nothing shocking there. You should have fairly high SR in a CV anyways.

What is OP? Well, it varies on a per user basis. A bad player may deem a decent ship to be OP just cause they got one shotted by them. Yes, this thing does happen.
And do let me remind you, just because someone say's something is OP doesn't mean its OP. "Oh look, this YouTuber said its OP so it should be OP because he said so and have 200k subs" yidi yada, don't get on this damm train.
A single CV can alter the position/tactics of 12 ships??? Huh??? Since when do CV planes can be present at all locations to alter all 12 enemy's location/tactics???
As a CV, you spot, and if the enemy manages to focus you down, then good on them, I am somewhat glad to see an enemy with situational awarness.

37 minutes ago, PATHAK12345 said:

selling legendary for 55k doubloons

And how is this relevant in this thread???

37 minutes ago, PATHAK12345 said:

I don't care what others will say defending cv.Kindly refer to what I have already stated about my own experience.

If you do indeed do not care about what others has got to say when each of us have different views on it, why bother asking for "answers" let alone make a thread like this?

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55 minutes ago, Verytis said:

You reached T10 in like 500 matches.

If players has some knowledge about game mechanics then no problem.My average on yamato is 89k which i think will not be concidered as bad with 49%w/r

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1 hour ago, HoChunHao said:

Noobs/Shitters exist in all games, this is not limited to World Of Warships only. This so called noobs are present in every single game and without them, I wouldn't have my Purple PR.
And how do noobs reach T10? Well, if it isn't obvious enough, it is by simply playing the game. Play enough games and you will get enough XP to progress. Heck there are players who only play COOP yet are able to grind all this T10s.
As how frustrating this shit can be, we just got to suck it up. Having a bad run? I have a solution, Take A Break. If you do so choose to continue playing after being tilted, it's on you and you are to be blamed for it.

Let me be brief, you are talking about your Ryujo stats which is at T6. Yes, 76% is nice as in those tiers, players with a somewhat functioning brain can play and turn the tide of battle. Or perhaps you got fairly lucky. Who knows.
And killed in only 2 of those 30 games? Well, that is to be expected. Nothing shocking there. You should have fairly high SR in a CV anyways.

What is OP? Well, it varies on a per user basis. A bad player may deem a decent ship to be OP just cause they got one shotted by them. Yes, this thing does happen.
And do let me remind you, just because someone say's something is OP doesn't mean its OP. "Oh look, this YouTuber said its OP so it should be OP because he said so and have 200k subs" yidi yada, don't get on this damm train.
A single CV can alter the position/tactics of 12 ships??? Huh??? Since when do CV planes can be present at all locations to alter all 12 enemy's location/tactics???
As a CV, you spot, and if the enemy manages to focus you down, then good on them, I am somewhat glad to see an enemy with situational awarness.

And how is this relevant in this thread???

If you do indeed do not care about what others has got to say when each of us have different views on it, why bother asking for "answers" let alone make a thread like this?

1.I cannot be present on 12 locations but those 12 ships have to stay together just because of a single cv.Once anyone is alone it can be farmed easily.Those 12 can be spotted pretty easily.

2.I said Selling legendary for 55k boubloons because they have no time for balancing cv spotting but much time for making money.Some days before they said they delayed the balance because of time concerns.

3.Is my 1st point enough to prove cv's OP.They have less alpha damage but remain alive for whole match and farm the damage equal to any other class without DYING.Got killed in only 2 matches,it's my experience not of any other youtuber. 

 

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I would rather say something against the method that is used, rather than what is said (the content).

Asking a question (to quote "expect answers") then refuting all answers that don't fit one's narrative is a 69 IQ move. 69 or lower.

May as well don't say anything to preserve and harbor the narrative instead of saying something just to get refuted everytime, all the times.

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37 minutes ago, Paladinum said:

I would rather say something against the method that is used, rather than what is said (the content).

Asking a question (to quote "expect answers") then refuting all answers that don't fit one's narrative is a 69 IQ move. 69 or lower.

May as well don't say anything to preserve and harbor the narrative instead of saying something just to get refuted everytime, all the times.

I will edit my post so that everyone can answer.

I said that to stop someone from typing whatever is in thier mind.But answers from experienced players will matter,like you cap.

No two things are alike in the world.Everyone has different opinions and experience.

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3 hours ago, PATHAK12345 said:

There was a Daring and he switched off his AA for the whole match

I didn't bother to watch the replay, but just so you know, its perfectly normal for a DD player to switch his AA off, especially Daring that has dual purpose guns. Or else they will be spotted by the planes as their dual purpose guns fire. 

If you want to complaint about CVs being OP again, I don't know if there will be people answering you, but for me, I don't think I should answer, cuz its all here already, read it again

 

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6 minutes ago, rookieFTW said:

I didn't bother to watch the replay, but just so you know, its perfectly normal for a DD player to switch his AA off, especially Daring that has dual purpose guns. Or else they will be spotted by the planes as their dual purpose guns fire. 

If you want to complaint about CVs being OP again, I don't know if there will be people answering you, but for me, I don't think I should answer, cuz its all here already, read it again

 

At that time I didn't had played cv after rework myself.

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9 hours ago, PATHAK12345 said:

3.Is my 1st point enough to prove cv's OP.They have less alpha damage but remain alive for whole match and farm the damage equal to any other class without DYING.Got killed in only 2 matches,it's my experience not of any other youtuber. 

Just because they have a high survivability rate means its OP. It should be high. What good is a CV is its SR is low??? And yes, they can remain for the whole match but the amount off damage a CV can farm depends on the player. There are variables and it looks like you simply just jumped on the HurrDurr CV is OP Wagon. Get off it. Damage from a CV varies on the player's skill.
Player's skill to predict the enemy, think beforehand before going in for a strike. Target selection (Not blindly going into AA blobs), how efficient are this players when it comes to their plane reserves.

9 hours ago, PATHAK12345 said:

farm the damage equal to any other class without DYING

Uhhhh, what else are they supposed to do? Aren't they supposed to farm and spot also? And huh? Is it an issue they can farm the same amount of damage as any other classes's AVG? When a CV in general should be doing more than other classes in terms of their average. And again, what good is a CV if they died? CVs should always prioritise their survivability.

9 hours ago, PATHAK12345 said:

2.I said Selling legendary for 55k boubloons because they have no time for balancing cv spotting but much time for making money.Some days before they said they delayed the balance because of time concerns.

Are you not aware companies are based on making profits? This crap is pretty much irrelevant in this thread. Balancing team and marketing team is 2 different departments. If it makes them money and outweighs the cons, I don't see a reason why not. You are just using this as another reason but from what I see, its rather useless in this thread. 

Get your head out of your bummer please. 

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55 minutes ago, HoChunHao said:

What good is a CV is its SR is low???

The whole point of CVs is being able to attack/spot the enemies without being fear of counter attacks. That was how they flipped warfare in general by WW2 - the Attacks on Taranto and Pearl Harbor. In the most extreme cases, only CVs can attack CVs with ease. Or subs. 

Apparently, this game isn't real life, and there are a lot more stuffs that influence how players play the game that are extreme differences to real life, most of the times, they will play them in a way that people will be greatly annoyed of.

Imagine a cruiser player that has to fly his guns toward a target, actively controls those guns to avoid them being destroyed, just to deal an abysmal 3-7k damage per salvo to a target but loses beyond 50% of his guns. And the reload time is garbage too. Imagine being in the firing range of the enemy while playing that cruiser.

 

Gosh I wish RTS CVs return so I can poop on CV haters with CVs.

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Your battle count is too low to have a full understanding of the game and ship vs ship interactions. You jumped guns too fast to tier X. A mistake too many makes.
In general you are good to go to tier X at 1k battle , and will have a basic understanding at around 3k.
 

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12 hours ago, PATHAK12345 said:

Some noobs ruins others game.How they reached tier 10 I don't know.

so you finally found a mirror?

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12 hours ago, PATHAK12345 said:

Some noobs ruins others game.How they reached tier 10 I don't know.

 

To be fair , so does you on 700 battles.

All you do is whine about CV being op that destroys gameplay when clearly alot of veterans aware of that but chose to ignore it because we know a way how to counteract against them. Right now, this complaint of yours is no different since the first time cv rework. Many ppl posted this forum to whine whine whine the cv being op.

I seen so many low battle players can still play it very well if they had a functioning cerebrum.

So not all "Noobs" ruin this game.. because some of them had a Reroll account. 

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12 hours ago, PATHAK12345 said:

There was a Daring and he switched off his AA for the whole match.At first I took him as my escort but teamwork is a word used to make jokes.

that's what he's SUPPOSED to do, the only joke is your understand of the game

12 hours ago, PATHAK12345 said:

My last problem-F**k CV's.Upcoming updates also would not change cv mechanics for spotting.CV only farm free damage.I played 30 matches on SEA server and was killed only in 2 of them with 76% w/r on tier 6 against tier 8(mostly).

that's the point of CVs, they do low but consistent damage and they sure cant do their jobs if they are dead, again, you don't understand other classes of ships

12 hours ago, PATHAK12345 said:

I want honest answer from experienced players-What is the definition of OP?

clearly not your's

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Also please research those whole mechanics and not learn shit from one source before you actually make a sound point whine of yours in this forum op.

You're starting to remind me of another person who also complaint alot than you do.

 

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Stop this madness !

OP ask question in angry format and accusatory tone

Players answer

OP hates answer, refuses to listen

Repeat

 

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Daring is meant to switch off his AA in open but it can be switched on behind an island or smoke.He was in the smoke for atleast 2 minutes and that was the time cv attacked me.

If tier10 players do not know that their ship has AA than it's their fault.DD has AA for some good reason not for showcase.

I am not a game programmer.CV can spot a ship easily from 7km remaining outside of AA.It cannot be balanced in a day but surely in a year.Till then CV has unfair advantage.

I know WG will not listen but it is comeletly wrong.

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10 minutes ago, PATHAK12345 said:

Daring is meant to switch off his AA in open but it can be switched on behind an island or smoke.He was in the smoke for atleast 2 minutes and that was the time cv attacked me.

If tier10 players do not know that their ship has AA than it's their fault.DD has AA for some good reason not for showcase.

I am not a game programmer.CV can spot a ship easily from 7km remaining outside of AA.It cannot be balanced in a day but surely in a year.Till then CV has unfair advantage.

I know WG will not listen but it is comeletly wrong.

Who knows why he had AA turned off for what you consider an inappropriate time. 

Maybe he was concentrating on something else. Maybe he forgot. Maybe he is like just about everyone else who has ever made a mistake in one game. Even you.

Maybe a better use of your time is analysing your games to correct issues rather than worrying about others. After all the only person you can control is yourself.

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5 minutes ago, PATHAK12345 said:

Daring is meant to switch off his AA in open but it can be switched on behind an island or smoke.He was in the smoke for atleast 2 minutes and that was the time cv attacked me.

Nonsense. Daring in the smoke for at least 2 minutes? Daring's smoke does not even last a minute.

 

7 minutes ago, PATHAK12345 said:

If tier10 players do not know that their ship has AA than it's their fault.DD has AA for some good reason not for showcase.

Planes are also meant to attack. Otherwise the Americans wouldn't have bailed our ass when the Japanese committed Nanking all around East Asia.

 

10 minutes ago, PATHAK12345 said:

am not a game programmer.CV can spot a ship easily from 7km remaining outside of AA.It cannot be balanced in a day but surely in a year.Till then CV has unfair advantage.

Nonsense. Even Marceau can only be spotted as close as 3.8 km with AA off. Most DDs can be spotted around 2.6 to 3 km. Most cruisers can only be spotted from the same range with their AA, ranging from 5.5 to 6.9 km.

 

You call people who ruin your game as noob, but you don't even know the basic numerical value on the average ships.

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11 minutes ago, Puggsley said:

Who knows why he had AA turned off for what you consider an inappropriate time. 

Maybe he was concentrating on something else. Maybe he forgot. Maybe he is like just about everyone else who has ever made a mistake in one game. Even you.

Maybe a better use of your time is analysing your games to correct issues rather than worrying about others. After all the only person you can control is yourself.

Watch the replay.

I requested him to provide aa support by quick messages and also by writing myself in the chat box.

This is not a form of teamwork and mutual support.

 

 

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14 hours ago, PATHAK12345 said:

There was a Daring and he switched off his AA for the whole match.At first I took him as my escort but teamwork is a word used to make jokes

I can say im main BB-DD player and in particular i play mostly daring atm and no why should u turn your AA on in a DD when CV can kill you whenever how strong your AA is and i only turn my AA on to shot down fighters when i’m safe from enemies or when im inside smoke or i know that AA on or off wont make a difference when CV has already guess who i am 

And Daring AA isnt like grozovoi or PanEU DDs which have access to DFAA so daring AA cant do much against T8 CVs not mention to T10s 👀

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8 minutes ago, Reinhard_of_Avercland said:

Nonsense. Daring in the smoke for at least 2 minutes? Daring's smoke does not even last a minute.

 

Planes are also meant to attack. Otherwise the Americans wouldn't have bailed our ass when the Japanese committed Nanking all around East Asia.

 

Nonsense. Even Marceau can only be spotted as close as 3.8 km with AA off. Most DDs can be spotted around 2.6 to 3 km. Most cruisers can only be spotted from the same range with their AA, ranging from 5.5 to 6.9 km.

 

You call people who ruin your game as noob, but you don't even know the basic numerical value on the average ships.

Friend I told that he was behind island where there was no enemy or in smoke,watch the replay.

I am not experienced but you are not saying wisely.Please don't tell me about detection range of dd which is 2.5 km.BB has normal detection range of 9 km by air.You cannot disengage or go in dark.planes will patrol around 7 km.

Finally when someone wants to disengage he will be probably on low HP but CV loves to kill low low hp targets hence disengagement is ruined.

Is my above point right.

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1 minute ago, Moc2602 said:

I can say im main BB-DD player and in particular i play mostly daring atm and yes why should u turn your AA on in a DD when CV can kill you whenever how strong your AA is and i only turn my AA on to shot down fighters when i’m safe from enemies or when im inside smoke 

And Daring AA isnt like grozovoi or PanEU DDs which have access to DFAA so daring AA cant do much against T8 CVs not mention to T10s 👀

That daring was inside the smoke.I asked him to aa support me many times.Two ship's aa is better than one but nothing.

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