THE WOLFPACK RETURNS

[IJN_Katori]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

FELLOW SUBMARINERS, IT HAS TIME TO SINK THE SHIPS FROM THE BOTTOM OF THE DEPTHS!

[Max_Battle]

There was movement at the station
For the word had passed around
The terror from the depths would soon return

Captain Max called forth his troops
And he told them what to do
To kill the damn new subs he sure did yearn

So all across the base
His men moved at a rapid pace
To prepare these silent killers their doom!

 

[LawrenceXVIII]

@Max_Battle

 

[LtDan_IceCream]

Subs again.....

[S0und_Theif]

I'm curious why WG suddenly made subs in a separate server rather than a separate game mode like the first test?

Did the battlefield redering change so much?

[IJN_Katori]

2 minutes ago, LtDan_IceCream said:

Subs again.....

Cheer up Dan, at least this was the final test for subs, we can finally see them use in Coop.

[S0und_Theif]

dun..........du-dun..........du-dun.........du-dun-du-dun-du-dun-duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuun!🦈

 

[IJN_Katori]

1 minute ago, S0und_Theif said:

I'm curious why WG suddenly made subs in a separate server rather than a separate game mode like the first test?

Did the battlefield redering change so much?

the underwater Renders changed alot.

 

I suppose when the subs are released, they have to update the engine.

[LtDan_IceCream]

1 minute ago, IJN_Katori said:

we can finally see them use in Coop.

[LawrenceXVIII]

Time to break the skills from Silent Hunter.

Type VII.

[S0und_Theif]

7 minutes ago, IJN_Katori said:

the underwater Renders changed alot.

 

I suppose when the subs are released, they have to update the engine.

That is going to be a huge update.

Just to be able to play below surface.

[S0und_Theif]

28 minutes ago, Max_Battle said:

There was movement at the station
For the word had passed around
The terror from the depths would soon return

Captain Max called forth his troops
And he told them what to do
To kill the damn new subs he sure did yearn

So all across the base
His men moved at a rapid pace
To prepare these silent killers their doom!

 

Don't forget this:

 

[Grygus_Triss]

CATALINAS! Beautiful Catalinas are here to help!

Launching from the No. 1 Flying Boat Repair and Service Depot at Lake Boga, Grygus_Triss and his crew of insane airmen will work to protect the BBs from the underwater menace.

[Max_Battle]

13 minutes ago, S0und_Theif said:

Don't forget this:

 

 

12 minutes ago, Grygus_Triss said:

CATALINAS! Beautiful Catalinas are here to help!

Launching from the No. 1 Flying Boat Repair and Service Depot at Lake Boga, Grygus_Triss and his crew of insane airmen will work to protect the BBs from the underwater menace.

I will use all available weapons to crush this evil menace.

[S0und_Theif]

2 minutes ago, Max_Battle said:

 

I will use all available weapons to crush this evil menace.

[Grygus_Triss]

Problem. The id... sorry,  'southern hemisphere insensitive' people at WG have put the tests on during prime time.

So I will either be at work, or trying to go to bed.

I guess the opinions of the East Coast Australian 9-5ers don't really matter.

Well, tells me I don't really need to bother loading the client anyway.

Give em hell from me Max, you All Night Gamer.

[S0und_Theif]

@IJN_Katori

Submarine and Hybrids open up a few things in the game.

1. The return of odd tier CV.

Their roles have been changed. CVA will be offensive CV while CVE and CVL will be support or ASW CV.

 

One problem, match maker is stupid.

It doesn't know minor class difference. (i.e. CL, CA, CB.)

 

The only way to mitigate this problem (that I can think of) is by making CVA and CVL a different class

and something else for CVL

 

Or CVA in even tier and CVL in odd tier.

Tier	CVL	CVA
IV		Langley
V	Independence
VI		Lexington
VII	Wright
VIII		Essex
IX	Ranger
X		Midway

This way it can fool the match maker.

Please don't mind the ships being re-arranges. It's just a concept.

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2. SSV

With hybrid testing on the way, I wouldn't be surprised to see SSV in the near future.

---

 

3. Collab

Iona captain in her natural habitat.

[IJN_Katori]

7 minutes ago, S0und_Theif said:

@IJN_Katori

Submarine and Hybrids open up a few things in the game.

1. The return of odd tier CV.

Their roles have been changed. CVA will be offensive CV while CVE and CVL will be support or ASW CV.

 

One problem, match maker is stupid.

It doesn't know minor class difference. (i.e. CL, CA, CB.)

 

The only way to mitigate this problem (that I can think of) is by making CVA and CVL a different class

and something else for CVL

 

Or CVA in even tier and CVL in odd tier.

Tier	CVL	CVA
IV		Langley
V	Independence
VI		Lexington
VII	Wright
VIII		Essex
IX	Ranger
X		Midway

This way it can fool the match maker.

Please don't mind the ships being re-arranges. It's just a concept.

---

 

2. SSV

With hybrid testing on the way, I wouldn't be surprised to see SSV in the near future.

---

 

3. Collab

Iona captain in her natural habitat.

4.

NEET Island

[mademoisail]

In the past, when there have been huge updates to the game, it's not unusual for us to test on a separate server. There are a lot of really big changes coming, and I hope you guys try to get involved in the testing if it's possible for you. 

Looking forward to seeing what you guys have to say about subs. 

-Sail

[S4pp3R]

2 hours ago, mademoisail said:

In the past, when there have been huge updates to the game, it's not unusual for us to test on a separate server. There are a lot of really big changes coming, and I hope you guys try to get involved in the testing if it's possible for you. 

Looking forward to seeing what you guys have to say about subs. 

Asia article for those who want a readable version: https://worldofwarships.asia/en/news/public-test/submarine-testing/

Yeah 100% going back to a TST is a good thing Sail, I know everyone here on these forums thinks it's a good idea based on discussions last time. Most were concerned about this move to a live server mode for testing.

Personally my only concern was if they were rushed out, I understand doing the test on the live server Sub mode, bots don't give proper data and if anything they skew it. So while I wasn't concerned about the Sub mode, I was if it was a precursor to going full release as they aren't ready.

A big thumbs up from all of us for WG again not rushing this, we all just hope that time is taken to get it right, no matter how long it is.

Back on topic...

As for the test mode, of course I have a LAN to go to this weekend (not a WoWS one) and had planned video editing and Kansas grind around that for the rest of my free time...

I'll see if I can break it, I do like testing things, I don't want to do Sub videos every change, so I may wait till the next round of tests...

My concern is that Subs will be underpowered... As last time they were underpowered if people knew how to position but untouchable in certain conditions which made them average.

Give me a DD on my team with a decent captain over a Sub any day. (Last iteration).

My predictions:

- 'Untouchable' issue will be less of a thing but still an issue.

- Subs will be more underpowered than last time, but still really strong in certain niche situations as they were before.

- CCs will still cry 'OP' to the heavens because they've already set their narrative that Subs are mechanically OP. They will have a 'I've tested these new mechanics ... BUT...'

- Floupies will jump on board as usual and reddit will be 'Subs OP'.

- I'll still prefer a decent player in a DD.

My reasoning is simple, the issues that have been changed up are about class interactions and were only an issue in certain situations, combat and tactical power subs were always inferior to DDs and still will be.

But it'll be interesting to see and I sincerely hope that Floupies and their glorious leader assess FACTS, rather than staying in their echo chamber, maybe then we can have some good discussions on reddit or discord rather than being drowned out.

[ADrunkDropbear]

What I'm getting from this is that they've implmented a mechanic where battleships and cruisers can call in airstrikes from the ship itself without going to a top down menu or the perspective of the aircraft. So instead of anti submarine floatplanes, strategic airstrikes with medium and heavy bombers maybe something we see in the future.

It could also be how ships like Tone, Ise and Hyuga will be implemented. 

[Metal_illness]

I thoroughly enjoyed both sub hunting in dd's and playing subs.

[Puggsley]

^^ I'm with you Mud, was great sport.

[dejiko_nyo]

Froupies. Fruity as usual as well as loopy. Fangirling like teenage girls on boybands.

[IJN_Katori]