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Dodging Cv torpedo tips for BB players.

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Alpha Tester
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So i have my Nagato now. Took me a while because i rarely play BB's now. You see, before you would get the occasional cv player would send his planes at you in the first 2 to 3 minutes of the while game your heading to your position and drop torpedoes and bombs at you. Now I do not mind it when they are at distance or i can dodge all of them. Even when i have to take 1, I really do not mind. 

 

Recently though this has changed. CV players have learned that if they send a load or 2 or 3 squadrons of torpedo planes at you they will pretty much finish your game in the first 2-3 minutes. Now by finish i mean either kill or take so much hit points off even if you repair it will not really be enough. I just feel so helpless seeing them swoop in 1-2ks away non of them getting shot down and then dropping their torpedoes in away that even if i turn into them or drop speed or do whatever i am finished. 

 

Was just wondering if their is anyway of countering this seeing as most cruiser players could not give a damn and just plow ahead of you leaving you open. also read that next patch they will get buff planes will be faster. Seems they are set to be the most power full ships in game.  I do not know about you guys but "its a game" if you can finish someone in the first 3 minutes i kind of think that is just down right annoying. Sure its all good fun for guys who like to play cv's but what about the rest of us?

 

So is there any tactic BB players use to counter such attacks? how do i not get blown up by a cv in the first 3 minutes?

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Alpha Tester
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Before read my statements please be noted that BBs are made to survive damage, Not DODGE IT!!

 

There are few ways to deal with Torpedo Bomber

- Play as a fleet with KINDLY ask other cruiser (With AAW of course) to escort you. They will help you kill those Planes or screw their aim with barage ability

- try to turn your Hull toward Torpedo bomber

- try to do as above "Another way around"

- Move with half or 3/4 speed so you can change your speed immediately when they launching the torpedoes and forcing them to guess your action next the moment they aproaching

- move backward :) (believe or not, full astern ship have some luck to completely evade the torpedo)

 

Please be noted, this methods never ensure you to evade any torpedoes but to minimalism the torpedo you will take

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Super Tester
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NA forums has a topic about this

 

http://forum.worldofwarships.com/index.php?/topic/19073-anti-torpedo-maneuveringa-simple-men%C2%B4s-guide/

 

then again, CV players will Box you (corner you with torpedoes where you can't escape, I use this often btw) you're gonna get hit with around 3 or 4 hits with this at random

 

though I use CV most of the time, the only advise I can give you is face the torpedo bombers so they will have a hard time adjusting for the drop while your AA's try their best to shoot them down, and always do hard turns if they do drop manually.. this is not 100% that you'll evade them but at most you get hit around 1 or 2 hits

 

P.S: at most, try to get hit around the torpedo bulges to lessen the damage, if you get hit around the bow or stern will hurt a lot

Edited by ragster

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Alpha Tester
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Before read my statements please be noted that BBs are made to survive damage, Not DODGE IT!!

 

 

So were supposed to lose all our hitpoints in the start of game? I had 2 squadrons sent at me last time 2 waves of torpedoes killed me straight away i dropped speed and did a hard turn but they were dropped like i said IN YOUR FACE! 

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If the CV player is anywhere mildly skilled , you are never goign to be able to dodge a point blank torpedo drop. As much as you evade, they are faster than you. All you can do it turn as hard as you can and brace for impact.

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Unless you are an extremely skillful BB player using high speed BB with excellent AA (Iowa). Yep you will always get torped at least once in a game (if you are the target)

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We all know why cruisers doesn't escort BBs. Why would you escort a blue liner sniper in the first place? All these problems makes cruiser players just do their own thing and not know how to escort a good BB player who enters the fray. 

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Although I do not play BBs, I can answer this from a CV perspective (Ranger). In a situation like you described, I will generally avoid attacking BBs that are sailing together with CA, especially USN. Turning towards the TBs will force me to change the manual drop angle, giving you/your allies more time to damage my squadrons, decreasing the number of fish that hit the water in the end.

 

tl;dr: if you don't have CL escort or fighters hanging nearby, you're asking for it.

 

Also, you might wanna check out this reddit post on the subject.

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Alpha Tester
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Yep, unless you are a very skilled player on a BB with good speed and Excellent AA(Iowa).

You will always get at least a torp to your hull in a game(if only you are the target)

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When I play carriers, I find that lone battleships are the easiest targets, so even it means pairing with another BB is better than no AA escort at all, but cruisers are the best for support.

 

As mentioned by others, going deliberately slow then speeding up suddenly really does throw off the carrier captains aim, along with violent turns - don't be afraid to drop throttle as many of the carriers that i do sink are the fools who don't do a single thing and run straight into all 6 torps - the goal is that you want to take as few as possible, not avoid them altogether

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If the CV player is anywhere mildly skilled , you are never goign to be able to dodge a point blank torpedo drop. As much as you evade, they are faster than you. All you can do it turn as hard as you can and brace for impact.

 

I recon there is a way of doing it, you can always try to move your ship before it does try to get in range, and if your gut is telling you that those squadrons are coming for you then try to make evasive maneuvers way ahead of his plan. You can ruin the cv players plan, you just have to try and think ahead of him or her.  

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- move backward :)

 

I don't want to say that was a bad idea, but when i do on full speed...

 torpedo-ship-submarine-8.jpg

EDIT: ABANDON SHIP!!

 

Edited by GS_Vrea

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Alpha Tester
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I don't want to say that was a bad idea, but when i do on full speed...

 torpedo-ship-submarine-8.jpg

 

Well, it's because of CV player's logic  to  drop torpedoes at lead position or exactly at the target

Aaaand the best part is, ship move accelerate to front better. Which mean you will stop and go ahead faster when moving backward

 

 

 

 

Edited by Harpoon01

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Alpha Tester
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Congrats on getting your nagato, also congrats to getting into higher tier CV matchups.

 

If you are matched against a Essex and still choose to ignore the planes and not stick close to a CA or is unlucky enough that the CA escorting you is dead. Please do not mind the enemy Cv for torping you and ending your match prematurely as Nagato has the worst AA lineup on all high tier BB in game.

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Although going to the direction of the torpedoes is the best bet in dodging them its not very effective when the cv has multiple torpedoe bombers or is using manual aim(i can't count the times i got hit by torpedoes launched at least three kilometers away from my side) they should really change how manual aim works or at least limit the range on how close a torpedoe bomber can launch hell 

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Although going to the direction of the torpedoes is the best bet in dodging them its not very effective when the cv has multiple torpedoe bombers or is using manual aim(i can't count the times i got hit by torpedoes launched at least three kilometers away from my side) they should really change how manual aim works or at least limit the range on how close a torpedoe bomber can launch hell 

 

Don't worry, in the next patch only Essex, Upcoming Midway, and some IJN CV have 2 or more torpedo bomber squadrons

 

Edited by Harpoon01

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Was just wondering if their is anyway of countering this seeing as most cruiser players could not give a damn and just plow ahead of you leaving you open. also read that next patch they will get buff planes will be faster. Seems they are set to be the most power full ships in game.  I do not know about you guys but "its a game" if you can finish someone in the first 3 minutes i kind of think that is just down right annoying. Sure its all good fun for guys who like to play cv's but what about the rest of us?

 

So is there any tactic BB players use to counter such attacks? how do i not get blown up by a cv in the first 3 minutes?

 

 

If your cruisers can't/ wont go to you then you go to the cruisers. If they won't help you it doesn't mean you can't take advantage of them. With some BBs such as the Kongou, the Miyogi and the Amagi, they are fast enough to keep up with cruisers. The next best thing is you group with other battleships, while your combined AA is nowhere near the equivalent of a cruiser's it is better than no AA help.

 

If you are caught alone the best you can do is react way before it happens and hope you eat as few torps as possible.

Edited by MARVinis

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as a bb user, Never complained in a cv before , its natural to be hit some torps since bb is the #1 tagets for tp and when i see planes coming, turning and slowing in advance to decrease the chance of eating torps, and staying near ships will help. Not really a guy who stays far with other ships. Expect more torpedoes in next patch XD

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Alpha Tester
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as a bb user, Never complained in a cv before , its natural to be hit some torps since bb is the #1 tagets for tp and when i see planes coming, turning and slowing in advance to decrease the chance of eating torps, and staying near ships will help. Not really a guy who stays far with other ships. Expect more torpedoes in next patch XD

 

Only from IJN DD and CV

USN CV only got one TB squad except Essex and Midway

 

 

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Don't worry, in the next patch only Essex, Upcoming Midway, and some IJN CV have 2 or more torpedo bomber squadrons

 

Whew but how does that work do they add more planes to the squadron or make it the same and where do you get this news?

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Whew but how does that work do they add more planes to the squadron or make it the same and where do you get this news?

 

But the damage is triple both for TB and DB

Next patch (today patch)

 

 

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Alpha Tester
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They increased the arming distance, but then again another 100 battles or so to familiarize and you guys will say they are OP again

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They increased the arming distance, but then again another 100 battles or so to familiarize and you guys will say they are OP again

 

Because this is a WG game.... Whining always exists :B

 

You know, because I can't complain BB are basically moving armored SPG and they can complain CV take no skill at all.

 

Cheers:D

Edited by Alvin1020

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BBs are so flawed , matchless power ,endurance and protect your teammates .

strange how a torp destroyer can pound u with shells and torps while being completley invisible other than the shells flying at u , and that was without smoke 

done and dusted my nagoto was sunk in a 1v1 with a ghost ship

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