3 [GALO] Takina_Inoue Member 10 posts Report post #1 Posted September 25, 2020 (edited) I find that Colbert is a turly noob ship. When Colbert shoot 1000 shells and get 200 hit and 2 fire(usually be fixed), I find I cause 10000 damage while Venice achieve that in just one volley. And things going worse when I fight against an enemy Venice. First, it is sad that I can't hit Venice in 10 km because she is 40 knots. Second, her SAP can hit me even Im 40 knots. Finally, her SAP always caused damage. Colbert has a huge superstructure like the Palace Museum, Squared and grandiose. I remember I was hit by Venice, and lose 20000 hp in one volley, while my Bow Pointed Straight at her. I thought that colbert is a not powerful but interesting ship when I do not faced Venice and Stalingrad, if I faced, it is a weak noob ship. And now there is a 16*14050 ship, even can hit colbert's citadel. Cause 224800 damage in one volley, can kill a colbert for six times. Edited September 25, 2020 by Amulet_Spade Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,739 [-JK-] EULA_violator Member 6,887 posts 34,566 battles Report post #2 Posted September 25, 2020 5 minutes ago, Amulet_Spade said: I find that Colbert is a turly noob ship. When Colbert shoot 1000 shells and get 200 hit and 2 fire(usually be fixed), I find I cause 10000 damage while Venice achieve that in just one volley. And things going worse when I fight against an enemy Venice. First, it is sad that I can't hit Venice in 10 km because she is 40 knots. Second, her SAP can hit me even Im 40 knots. Finally, her SAP always caused damage. Colbert has a huge superstructure like the Palace Museum, Squared and grandiose. I remember I was hit by Venice, and lose 20000 hp in one volley, while my Bow Pointed Straight at her. I thought that colbert is a not powerful but interesting ship when I do not faced Venice and Stalingrad, if I faced, it is a weak noob ship. And now there is a 16*14050 ship, even can hit colbert's citadel. Cause 224800 damage in one volley, can kill a colbert for six times. cool, then dont play her then. no one is forcing you to play a ship that everyone know is shit. also, ven cant go 40kt, the fact that you are danceing in open waters where she can blap you that easily implies to me that it's not even the ship's problem... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3 [GALO] Takina_Inoue Member 10 posts Report post #3 Posted September 25, 2020 就在剛剛,Drakon233 說: cool, then dont play her then. no one is forcing you to play a ship that everyone know is shit. also, ven cant go 40kt, the fact that you are danceing in open waters where she can blap you that easily implies to me that it's not even the ship's problem... 38 knots, 41.4 knots, 40 knots, those are similar. Dont be so unkind and stern. SAP takes 6 or 7 seconds to hit in 12km, I need 2 second to observe and its hard to elude. Maybe you can share me some experience to elude midrange fast shells. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,714 [FORCE] Reinhard_of_Avercland Modder, Member 4,351 posts 19,508 battles Report post #4 Posted September 25, 2020 (edited) 5k battles, and this guy compares an oversized Marceau with a CA that needs a lot of nerfs. Just because the MM puts them in the same category, you are not supposed to think the same. Colbert uses DD guns while Venezia was designed by the same country that exported their technology to the Soviets, hence their same railgun-like ballistic. You don't see DD shoot their guns to far targets for that reason. Edited September 25, 2020 by Reinhard_of_Avercland Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
234 [TF44] Lowyat Member 615 posts 33,082 battles Report post #5 Posted September 25, 2020 a dd trying to gun down venezia. emm a dd trying to gun down a dd hunter. are you sure about that?says john cena Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3 [GALO] Takina_Inoue Member 10 posts Report post #6 Posted September 25, 2020 就在剛剛,Reinhard_of_Avercland 說: 5k battles, and this guy compares an oversized Marceau with a CA that needs a lot of nerfs. Just because the MM puts them in the same category, you are not supposed to think the same. Colbert uses DD guns while Venezia was designed by the same country that exported their technology to the Soviets, hence their same railgun-like ballistic. Yes, railguns are interseting. I mean that colbert's squared model is easy to be hit. That is really awful. If AP hit the superstructure, get 1/10, SAP get 1/3. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,739 [-JK-] EULA_violator Member 6,887 posts 34,566 battles Report post #7 Posted September 25, 2020 20 minutes ago, Amulet_Spade said: Maybe you can share me some experience to elude midrange fast shells. you dont, colbert has shit handleing esp after they nerfed her starting speed to henri's level in ST, if something with railguns shoot you at mid range it will hit, you can only A and D to dodge because if you use WSing you will get fked on the next salvo, just play colbet behind a island like how she's meant to. the speed boost is there so you can get to a good island early and fast or island hopping when a chance shows up, not for open wating Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3 [GALO] Takina_Inoue Member 10 posts Report post #8 Posted September 25, 2020 6 分鐘前,Drakon233 說: you dont, colbert has shit handleing esp after they nerfed her starting speed to henri's level in ST, if something with railguns shoot you at mid range it will hit, you can only A and D to dodge because if you use WSing you will get fked on the next salvo, just play colbet behind a island like how she's meant to. the speed boost is there so you can get to a good island early and fast or island hopping when a chance shows up, not for open wating Thank you for your sharing. Seems I need to find my machine gun position. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,739 [-JK-] EULA_violator Member 6,887 posts 34,566 battles Report post #9 Posted September 25, 2020 Just now, Amulet_Spade said: Thank you for your sharing. Seems I need to find my machine gun position. the usual DM spots work pretty well, but do keep in mind you are a LOT weaker to people bumrushing you than a DM Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3 [GALO] Takina_Inoue Member 10 posts Report post #10 Posted September 25, 2020 10 分鐘前,Drakon233 說: you dont, colbert has shit handleing esp after they nerfed her starting speed to henri's level in ST, if something with railguns shoot you at mid range it will hit, you can only A and D to dodge because if you use WSing you will get fked on the next salvo, just play colbet behind a island like how she's meant to. the speed boost is there so you can get to a good island early and fast or island hopping when a chance shows up, not for open wating And I wander about the upgrades, 4 and 5. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,739 [-JK-] EULA_violator Member 6,887 posts 34,566 battles Report post #11 Posted September 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Amulet_Spade said: And I wander about the upgrades, 4 and 5. upgrades captain skills Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3 [GALO] Takina_Inoue Member 10 posts Report post #12 Posted September 25, 2020 2 分鐘前,Drakon233 說: upgrades captain skills Thank you 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,430 [SMOKE] Mechfori Member 4,522 posts 25,385 battles Report post #13 Posted September 25, 2020 2 hours ago, Amulet_Spade said: ... When Colbert shoot 1000 shells and get 200 hit and 2 fire(usually be fixed), I find I cause 10000 damage while Venice achieve that in just one volley. ... And that is why I think most players hardcore hatred towards Smolensk and Colbert really are unfounded ; seriously a Thunderer is even more consistent in starting fire and farming with fire and no less it hit way harder with every salvo , but that also explain the frustration .... Smolensk, Colbert ( and by extension Atlanta and Flint ) they are not CL , really they are just over sized DD with weak CL hull and CL concealment , speed and not that great maneuverability 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
699 [WGPLS] Adorable_Arona Member 717 posts 6,273 battles Report post #14 Posted September 25, 2020 I'm expecting a rant with the usual name shame and "NOOB COLBERT FK ME CNM" I'm greeted instead by a more...peaceful thread Disappointed. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,739 [-JK-] EULA_violator Member 6,887 posts 34,566 battles Report post #15 Posted September 25, 2020 23 minutes ago, Earl_of_Arland said: I'm expecting a rant with the usual name shame and "NOOB COLBERT FK ME CNM" I'm greeted instead by a more...peaceful thread Disappointed. nah, i treat everyone with the respect that they deserve too bad some people deserve no respect 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
944 [BLESS] Rina_Pon Member 1,708 posts 17,920 battles Report post #16 Posted September 25, 2020 (edited) Colbert is a smokeless Smolensk/Friesland. Or a T10 Atlanta. Either way it's out at the far corner of the parameter space of WoWS ship design. When I get one on my team I always do my best to lay smokes for him, because I know that's pretty much the only way he's going to be able to do anything useful. Edited September 25, 2020 by Rina_Pon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
763 [GS] Onlinegamer Video Contributor, Beta Tester 2,953 posts 15,182 battles Report post #17 Posted September 26, 2020 before buying pls watch review next time Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
661 [FOF] Big_Black_Hawk Member 1,701 posts 25,997 battles Report post #18 Posted September 26, 2020 I think you should forget fighting against CA's (since you cannot penetrate their 30mm deck armor even with IFHE), and consider BBQ BBs with 2 firing range upgrades and support DD dogfight instead. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites