oh come on! CVs vs DD in ranked

[DUX_2020]

bloody hell get rid of CVs at least in ranked play, it's ruining the game. or give us unlimited smoke like CV has unlimited aircraft FFS

for once how about wargaming plays as DD and test their matchmaking.. have fun in a DD vs CV, radar, ultrasound etc

i'm sick of it, wargaming pls reply so that i know you will not fix it and i can move on to another game. i'm sick of it!

[EULA_violator]

bye

[Gummiheng]

bye weakling

nobody forced u to play ranked ✌️

[IJN_Katori]

[Max_Battle]

Well this certainly is a turn up for the books.

No one has ever complained about carriers before.

How odd.

[Nork22]

Another bitch thread? When it's gonna be locked?

[Adorable_Arona]

DD nowadays smh.

Are you one of those people that bring Yue Yang into ranked?

[GoodMorning_MFs]

Why keep playing DD if you are suffering in it and doesn't want to improve?

Are you a masochist?

[Grygus_Triss]

You know what’s even more annoying?

Load into ranked. No CVs, No DDs, just 3-4 BBs and 4-5 cruisers per side.

And you’re in a Minotaur.

With 9.1 detection and relatively short range, You’ve been demoted to scout.

Except without citadel immunity or dodging ability of DDs.

And if you smoke up,  no one spots for you.

[Reinhard_of_Avercland]

Hell no.

How can I have fun with Kremlin if DDs are unchecked?

jUSt DoDGe?

No way in hell Kremlin can dodge torps from sharp angle with that massive turning radius.

#removeDD

#makebrawlinggreatagain

[Adorable_KeQing]

Oh no, I am getting CV games in ranked when I am playing DD,
This is starting to be a pain and annoying.

I'll still keep on playing DDs despite knowing I will get CVs most of the time
I'll keep doing this to myself even if I am getting pissy

OP, are you OK? You asked for it. Don't play DDs then, don't play ranked then. Like ppl have said it above and I will say it again, NO ONE IS FORCING YOU to play ranked, you forced yourself, so suck it up

OP pretty much

[legionary2099]

Move this thread to the NA forum. You will find your comrades there. And they will shed tears for you. Though they will still blast your back 

[Mechfori]

2 hours ago, Earl_of_Arland said:

DD nowadays smh.

Are you one of those people that bring Yue Yang into ranked?

well , well ,I  h ad no issue with playing YY this season, she's not  as b ad  as people say she is .. I  actully m an age very respectable result from her this season

 

 

1 hour ago, Grygus_Triss said:

You know what’s even more annoying?

Load into ranked. No CVs, No DDs, just 3-4 BBs and 4-5 cruisers per side.

And you’re in a Minotaur.

With 9.1 detection and relatively short range, You’ve been demoted to scout.

Except without citadel immunity or dodging ability of DDs.

And if you smoke up,  no one spots for you.

Yeah that could be  a problem , but seen worse , how  about  a game when enemy got 3 Radar and getting none on your own ;  and me in my YY. Seeing some weird  and offbeat MM this time  around , seriously the CV do made DD less effective but its manageable , its the over influx of Radar that's really ruining the game .. am keep seeing 3 or 4 ( and 5 ) Radar a side and its not only the DD that suffer

[Onlinegamer]

[Grygus_Triss]

1 hour ago, Mechfori said:

seriously the CV do made DD less effective but its manageable , its the over influx of Radar that's really ruining the game .. am keep seeing 3 or 4 ( and 5 ) Radar a side and its not only the DD that suffer

I’m more worried about the effect is has on the players. CVs, Radar, CAs with 15 guns and AP, gunboat DDs, hydro... Taken together they make life tough for a DD, not helped by other players getting salty about DD’s not ‘doing their job’.

Regardless of what causes it, the result is that less people play DD. I see a lot of games, in random and ranked, with only one or no DD. And with the sniping and island camping meta, this means you don’t have spotting. Which is really bad when you are sniping or island camping.

Yes, CVs can spot, and are very effective at it, but less... reliable? They seldom provide constant spotting, they fly around a target for 20 seconds or so, drop ordinance, then head back to CV, who then picks another flank to attack, all before you load and bring your guns around. DDs are more likely to provide constant spotting, whether they mean to or not, simply by being there.

Lack of constant spotting can be especially annoying for cruisers, as it will often then be their job to move forward and spot, though they neither have the concealment, nor the armour to deal with big guns 13 km away in open water.

[Mechfori]

 

1 hour ago, Grygus_Triss said:

I’m more worried about the effect is has on the players. CVs, Radar, CAs with 15 guns and AP, gunboat DDs, hydro... Taken together they make life tough for a DD, not helped by other players getting salty about DD’s not ‘doing their job’.

...

Its ripple effect at play , that's how I would call it. the meta and the combined effect of all stated simply create exclusion zone against enemy DD and DD players know not to trek even near .. that's where the game fail the class, cause Stealth, is now gone, and then Speed , sorry you had ( at mid to high tiers ) Cruisers that can run just as fast and some even faster , and DD can no longer simply DODGE, speed off and get out of sight ...

And then the whole return to haunt the Cruisers and BB cause they need spotting , as stated, but for the DD to be able to be out spotting they need the fire cover and close support and when they need that the need is immediate ... its a dilemma you cannot have spotting if you do not provide the support but to provide the support you need spotting first ( to at least allow the guns to prepare for a fight if needed ) and of course DD got no HP to burn, no armor to halt enemy shells and practically no real working AA

So DD players are faced with a game that , with most of the team camping or holding back, unable to vanguard and when they cannot do that they cannot spot nor contribute, and in turn that hurt the guns .. DD is in its own dilemma , go out ad do the DD thing ( most without any due return of reward ) , get killed or 1/3, 2/3 HP burn to do its part and then unable t do anything rest of the game and be call a noob, or stay back, safe and wait for something and then not able to spot for the team, unable to screen, no way to vanguard and then be called nooob again. Its NOT HARD TO FIGURE WHY LESS PEOPLE PLAY DD

So yes the psyche and effect on player is real , its why ever less player play DD, its a class that demand the most, face the toughest, without any counter measure to play against the threat and yet asked to go out , into firing lane and do its so cal DD play , with most that do not reward or reward minimal . Its ability to earn for its own ( damage dealing and capping mostly ) are nullified by the combined effect of stated. Its core play of utilizing Stealth, Speed and Maneuverability no longer work ( any one taken away the whole thing just do not work, and now its all 3 ) and of course its almost always ranged out  .. but even with all these it can still be play and play along ( but with questionable return ) the main thing is DD players know for real is that  most of the time the team will only sit back lane and provide practically zero support .. yet keep asking the DD to go do this , go do that ....  so if the game allow CV to play and even with regular or even casual effort can play to effect and get rewarded , and likewise for BB, likewise for Cruisers , but never so for DD , why the hell even play DD as some had put it , Numbers tell ..

[Rina_Pon]

For all the reasons I won't be playing much ranked this season, CVs don't really feature. 

3 hours ago, Mechfori said:

...the main thing is DD players know for real is that  most of the time the team will only sit back lane and provide practically zero support .. 

This, on the other hand, is top of my list.

No, I won't rush in and die. I'm smarter than that, thanks. I'll sit back with the fleet and do nothing of much interest until they all die and the game ends.Fine. I'll even help them with the AA and do a bit of spotting on the side. But losing games like this is really uninteresting for me, not to mention frustrating as all get go. My masochistic streak as a DD main does have limits, after all.

 

 

[S4pp3R]

9 hours ago, Grygus_Triss said:

You know what’s even more annoying?

Load into ranked. No CVs, No DDs, just 3-4 BBs and 4-5 cruisers per side.

And you’re in a Minotaur.

With 9.1 detection and relatively short range, You’ve been demoted to scout.

Except without citadel immunity or dodging ability of DDs.

And if you smoke up,  no one spots for you.

Or you're a radar Mino... But you know what I do? I don't play my radar Mino...

[Verytis]

30 minutes ago, S4pp3R said:

Or you're a radar Mino... But you know what I do? I don't play my radar Mino...

I do.

Nothng better to play. My only 19pt captain.

But its just really sad when your team don't help you lock down the enemy team's positions.

Also fighters being able to stealth spot you is pure BS.

Stalingrad is BS.

Your 6.9km AA is a bad thing, not a good thing

The rest I can live with.

[S4pp3R]

9 hours ago, Verytis said:

Also fighters being able to stealth spot you is pure BS.

Stalingrad is BS.

100%

I don't know why fighters can spot without being spotted atm.

Honestly it's worse than before they started making thise changes. I don't know how, or what has happened but it's silly, if a plane can spot you, you should be able to spot the plane.

Stalingrad, I hate that thing so much. It's a pure unfiltered demonstration of WGs issues with premiums.

I am happy they've kept selling it though.

'Wait what the hell are you on about SappeR?'

By making it available to more people the 'OP' factor is shared around more. Back in WoT days, certain high level clans were the only ones who'd get access to broken tanks which would help them stay at higher levels.

It's a stupid thing, the last thing the game should do is give more power to those who already have more power.

At least with Stalingrad, most players who do clan stuff can save up the steel and have access to the power.

Personally I won't but I don't want to waste my hard earned steel on a ship because it's OP, I'd rather spend it on a ship that I like.