I PREDICTED THIS

[IJN_Katori]

ITS ALL GOOD LADS

HYBRIDS ARE COMING TO THE GAME!

ST, HYBRIDS

Please note that all information in the development blog is preliminary and subject to change during testing. Any showcased features may or may not end up on the main server. The final information will be published on our game's website.

 

In the near future, a new group of battleships and cruisers will be tested - hybrids. Their main feature is the ability to launch a squadron of planes. Launching and controlling them is done the same way as with aircraft carriers: by pressing a separate button. After launch, control is fully transferred to the squadron, and the ship may be controlled with autopilot. Hybrids won't have automatically activated consumables. 

Testing will be done with two ships, carrying torpedo bombers:

Japanese Tier VIII cruiser Tone;

Japanese Tier VI battleship Ise.

Detailed parameters of the ships will be published before they are added to the game, granted a successful test is conducted.

[mademoisail]

These are going to be sick. I am super freaking excited for these.

[IJN_Katori]

8 minutes ago, mademoisail said:

These are going to be sick. I am super freaking excited for these.

If only I could ❤️ react to this...

[LawrenceXVIII]

I want ISE

[S0und_Theif]

Don't forget the link.

https://blog.worldofwarships.com/blog/75

 

I am curious on how to play them?

 

IJN = Hybrid
KM = Pocket Battleship

[S4pp3R]

1 hour ago, mademoisail said:

These are going to be sick. I am super freaking excited for these.

Warning folks, this is the most animated we've ever seen Sail!!!! 

[Skarhabek]

 

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2 hours ago, mademoisail said:

These are going to be sick. I am super freaking excited for these.

its not going to be sick,... its going to be super healthy

 

2 hours ago, IJN_Katori said:

I PREDICTED THIS

you dont predicted this, ........ you..... without realizing it..... its the feel of darkside presence.... 

Anyone who excited to get BBV is obviously dark force user.

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For Balance Reason.... DO NOT PUT BBV on T6,

i am suggesting put Ise on T8 As well BUT WITH INCREASED STAT 

and rename it to Yamashiro.....

 

or FORGET ABOUT BALANCE, GO BALANS

make Ise at T6, do another Azur Lane Event

 

CREATE THE ENTIRE NEW SHIP T8 Yamashiro (basically upgraded version of Ise)

SELL IT AS +50% more expensive than the T8 premium.....

 

because you get BRAND NEW SHIP + Ship Skin + Nyoo nyo NYOOOO as the commander with......

Sovetskaya Rossiya is crap T9 ship.... YET WG could sell it.....

 

imagine how much money WG could squezee, FROM BOTH WEEB and Sithlord!

 

 

[Skarhabek]

dont forget to milk kancolle fans as well........ PROFIT

[Thyaliad]

Hot dayum finally it is becoming a reality.

But why torpedo bombers though? Historically they would have been dive bombers.

[Paladinum]

13 hours ago, IJN_Katori said:

Launching and controlling them is done the same way as with aircraft carriers: by pressing a separate button. After launch, control is fully transferred to the squadron, and the ship may be controlled with autopilot.

The exact same GARBAGE system as rework CVs? Main guns are for show while planes are being controlled by the player? Or is this WG's high-quality wording as usual?

Wow, what is even THE POINT of CV hybrids if I cannot control the ship and fire her guns myself while controlling the planes.

Let undermine the very purpose of those ships by putting them under a system that doesn't allow the ships to operate as intended! Disrespectful of the ships.

They would work well under RTS mechanics, but not whatever the heck CV system the game's having.

I guess I will never even own any of these things then.

 

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Spare me the sarcasm when I say you predicted nothing.

Tone's 3D model has been in the game during alpha/beta test. It's only a matter of time before they add her back. Look at Kitakami.

"Oh my Neptune (the god), they added Shinano in the game! Look, people! I guessed it! Even though everyone and their dog knew that Shinano has been all over alpha test screenshots and WG will bring her back one way or another!"

 

[S4pp3R]

TBH atm, they would be a whole bunch of 'meh' and would just be there to make money.

They'd either function like a poor CV one minute or a poor CA/BB the next...

[GoodMorning_MFs]

2 minutes ago, S4pp3R said:

They'd either function like a poor CV one minute or a poor CA/BB the next...

Yup, only a team of fragile torpedo planes to use and players have limited awareness over their ship's condition during flight, therefore extremely easy to eat torps or devastating salvos. Then after using the planes players are stuck with a ship with discounted firepower (unless they have buffed reload). But I would say the spotting advantage they have is quite nice. 

But how did they make those planes carry torpedoes though, Aichi E13A/E16A/Yokosuka D4Y/Mitsubishi F1M are all not designed to carry torpedoes, unless WG placed Nakajima B5N/B6N on the ships instead. How do planes be launch from catapults if they carry torps? As all IJN torpedo bombers hang the torps externally. 

[IJN_Katori]

1 hour ago, Paladinum said:

The exact same GARBAGE system as rework CVs? Main guns are for show while planes are being controlled by the player? Or is this WG's high-quality wording as usual?

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Spare me the sarcasm when I say you predicted nothing.

Tone's 3D model has been in the game during alpha/beta test. It's only a matter of time before they add her back. Look at Kitakami.

"Oh my Neptune (the god), they added Shinano in the game! Look, people! I guessed it! Even though everyone and their dog knew that Shinano has been all over alpha test screenshots and WG will bring her back one way or another!"

 

Consider yourself as a Garbage then. If you don't want these on the game. Just uninstall. Nobody likes your opinion in many ways.

 

56 minutes ago, rookieFTW said:

Yup, only a team of fragile torpedo planes to use and players have limited awareness over their ship's condition during flight, therefore extremely easy to eat torps or devastating salvos. Then after using the planes players are stuck with a ship with discounted firepower (unless they have buffed reload). But I would say the spotting advantage they have is quite nice. 

But how did they make those planes carry torpedoes though, Aichi E13A/E16A/Yokosuka D4Y/Mitsubishi F1M are all not designed to carry torpedoes, unless WG placed Nakajima B5N/B6N on the ships instead. How do planes be launch from catapults if they carry torps? As all IJN torpedo bombers hang the torps externally. 

The E16A1 Zuiun and the M6A1 Seiran carried torpedoes and bombs but only these aircraft carried.

To be fair. Some seaplanes such as the PBY Catalina can carry torpedoes or Bombs. 

 

In Kancolle. You can get the planes and attach it to your Kai-2 Remodel Cruisers and Battleships.

[IJN_Katori]

2 hours ago, Thyaliad said:

Hot dayum finally it is becoming a reality.

But why torpedo bombers though? Historically they would have been dive bombers.

Preliminary Test. I think they are putting Seaplane Tenders and Seaplane Carriers.

[Paladinum]

9 minutes ago, IJN_Katori said:

Consider yourself as a Garbage then. If you don't want these on the game. Just uninstall. Nobody likes your opinion in many ways.

Geez thanks!

 

Also please note that you might have misunderstood me.

I want those ships in the game, but NOT under the CV rework system. It's the CV rework that I hate, NOT the ships.

[LawrenceXVIII]

Guys... They forgot another ship hybrid..

Oyodo. Agano's CL/CV Hybrid.

[S4pp3R]

1 hour ago, rookieFTW said:

Yup, only a team of fragile torpedo planes to use and players have limited awareness over their ship's condition during flight, therefore extremely easy to eat torps or devastating salvos. Then after using the planes players are stuck with a ship with discounted firepower (unless they have buffed reload). But I would say the spotting advantage they have is quite nice.  

You're forgetting...

There are incoming spotting changes for aircraft, which we really can't forecast how it will impact hybrids until we get our hands on either the ships or the game with proposed changes.

I would hold out on any 'spotting advantage' assessment until then as the whole purpose of this overhaul is to reduce the spotting advantage that CVs have.

[IJN_Katori]

30 minutes ago, LawrenceXVIII said:

Guys... They forgot another ship hybrid..

Oyodo. Agano's CL/CV Hybrid.

Chitose. Chiyoda. CAV Takao project. Yamato BBV, perhaps most of these will be exclusive for Japan only. 

 

And don't forget I-400. 

[LawrenceXVIII]

10 minutes ago, IJN_Katori said:

Chitose. Chiyoda. CAV Takao project. Yamato BBV, perhaps most of these will be exclusive for Japan only. 

 

And don't forget I-400. 

This is getting ridiculous.

I wanted a RM BB rn.

[Grygus_Triss]

So... WG are no longer worried that players cannot manage squadrons AND consumables?

If this pans out, maybe they will re-enable consumables on CVs.

On another note. If this works, then I400 submarines with bombers could be an option.

[LawrenceXVIII]

Just now, Grygus_Triss said:

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On another note. If this works, then I400 submarines with bombers could be an option.

Might be only 2 planes only.

[Thyaliad]

2 hours ago, S4pp3R said:

TBH atm, they would be a whole bunch of 'meh' and would just be there to make money.

They'd either function like a poor CV one minute or a poor CA/BB the next...

Yeah, that is why after the CV rework I doubted we would ever see hybrid ships being introduced into the game.

The whole point of having a hybrid is so you can use both the guns and the planes at the same time. Otherwise you are a basically a poor man's CV or CA/BB.

Still it is nice the concept is being tested. I suppose the planes can be used to attack someone at the start of the match, or when you are sailing from one flank to another and are in no danger of getting shot at. Or in between shooting you can camp behind an island and use your planes while your Repair Party comes off cooldown or something.

1 hour ago, IJN_Katori said:

The E16A1 Zuiun and the M6A1 Seiran carried torpedoes and bombs but only these aircraft carried.

 

In Kancolle. You can get the planes and attach it to your Kai-2 Remodel Cruisers and Battleships.

Afaik only the Seirans could carry torpedoes, but not Zuiuns (at least according to their Wikipedia article). And the Ise would have historically carried Zuiuns, since the Seirans were for the I-400 class of subs.

Even in Kancolle the Zuiuns and Seirans are not torpedo bombers, just regular seaplane dive bombers.

[Moggytwo]

I think these ships will be genuinely fun!  It was nice of WG to use my exact idea though... 

Let me quote myself:

"I'm all for putting Tone/Ise/Yamashiro and similar in game though!  I think you could play it like a normal ship, then launch a squadron when a plane attack was viable, then recall and go back to normal gun play.  This sounds really fun to me."

"Well you could quite safely do that in a BB, as we seem to agree on.  In something like the Tone, it would also be quite easy, you're in an IJN cruiser, so you'd probably have 9-10km concealment.  Enemy BB is bow tanking you so you can't get effective gun fire out?  Just drop off concealment, fly an attack, then back to the ship and keep shooting. Enemy ship is mobile and angling very well to minimise damage?  Same again, they'll either eat plenty of damage from your aircraft or they'll have to turn to a vulnerable angle to avoid and your friends can kill him (or you can recall and fire your own guns - you could even have AP pre-loaded just for this!).  I'm sure once you got used to playing the ship there would be plenty more situations that would present that we perhaps wouldn't think of while theory crafting."

"In the end, with the new CV mechanics, these ships would be able to function.  They could be made to be balanced.  So it just comes down to whether WG actually want to introduce them?  I personally think they are coming, probably not this year, but at some point once the new CV's become as settled into the game as the other classes are."

After I gave them the idea for the whole CV rework, clearly WG should start paying me commission! 

 

2 hours ago, S4pp3R said:

They'd either function like a poor CV one minute or a poor CA/BB the next...

Versatility will be their key aspect.  WG will iterate them until they are statistically balanced as per usual, but the ability to make the most of the different aspects of the ship at the exact right times will enable better players to get more out of these ships than the sum of their parts.

[dejiko_nyo]

2 hours ago, S4pp3R said:

TBH atm, they would be a whole bunch of 'meh' and would just be there to make money.

They'd either function like a poor CV one minute or a poor CA/BB the next...

This sums up what is going to happen. Thank you for making life easy on me.

[S4pp3R]

24 minutes ago, Moggytwo said:

Versatility will be their key aspect.  WG will iterate them until they are statistically balanced as per usual, but the ability to make the most of the different aspects of the ship at the exact right times will enable better players to get more out of these ships than the sum of their parts.

I reckon you'll find they'll iterate them until they are a nothing gimmick ship simply there to sell boats.

I'm not against them but I am against them now.

So many other ships should be priority.