Look at the minimap please?

[GoodMorning_MFs]

Saw a lot of cases through the days, which CV players think that they are commanding an airport instead of a damn aircraft carrier. Tunnel-visioned too hard while playing with planes and forget that minimap exists, gets blown up in spawn or reposition too late. Quite a joke since they are commanding a CV, which can spot any where they want to and have the safest way of gathering information. 

Oh well they will get away with this a bit easier after the air detection reduction. 

Not naming and shaming here, just an extreme example I met today (but if he's on my team I am gonna be triggered)

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[Thyaliad]

Not a problem exclusive to CVs. Plenty of other players in their BBs, CAs or DDs act like the minimap doesn't exist.

[BanditSE1977]

Not using the mini map has been a problem since OBT at least from what I have seen.

[GoodMorning_MFs]

4 minutes ago, BanditSE1977 said:

Not using the mini map has been a problem since OBT at least from what I have seen

Which is why I found it hilarious😂

[BanditSE1977]

Pretty sure it was in the first couple of months of the game at low tiers,watching BB players get chased down and sunk by DD players who were visible for a couple of minutes visualy and on the mini map,plus ignoring chat when I tell them to look out! ( Although part of the chat problem would have been non english speakers not understanding what is being typed).

[GoodMorning_MFs]

1 hour ago, Thyaliad said:

Not a problem exclusive to CVs. Plenty of other players in their BBs, CAs or DDs act like the minimap doesn't exist.

Yup, but my point is more towards CVs who died in that matter. Given their natural advantages which are planes and fast enough speed (especially T8 and above), they have 0 excuses in failing to reposition. Plus the fact that a dead CV affects the team a lot, if mine died in a similar way I would be baffled, especially if I already asked them to reposition.

[Tagnbag]

but but but minimap takes up too much screen and stops me from seeing whats happening !  in all fairness as males we are trained from birth to ignore maps and instruction booklets. Females you have no excuse !

 

[Reinhard_of_Avercland]

This kind of CV players have existed since the good old RTS era. They can't blame the new system even if the new system is kinda broken.

[GoodMorning_MFs]

10 minutes ago, Reinhard_of_Avercland said:

This kind of CV players have existed since the good old RTS era

Yeah, but the RTS era punishes it extra brutal. If I recall correctly there's an era of CV sniping, where they secretly swing their planes across the map in a sneaky beaky fashion, if the enemy CV does not reposition with team or does not leave a fighter cover for itself it will be nuked to pieces. 

And RTS era encourages reposition a bit more if I am not wrong since planes only attack once, so if a CV position a bit forward he can recall the air fleet faster and have coordinate strikes faster. But the rework only allows one air group to be controlled, so the CV player can use other types of aircraft while waiting for one to return, repositioning did help but maybe most of them are too lazy to move 🤣 And new players can simply have access to high tier premium CVs by paying is just making the overall standards of CV playerbase drop (I highly doubt their multitasking ability and map awareness)

[Sharr_Dextera]

Once upon a time onboard my Cleveland, I support a DD when he/she is capping. I pop the radar, and I detected an Amalfi waiting to ambush the DD. I did warn him/her several times about that, and also remind him/her when my radar activation time are over that there are an Amalfi waiting to ambush, so look out for the Amalfi position on his/her minimap. I cannot give him/her direct fire support to suppress the Amalfi, because it will exposed my ship to the enemies main flank and getting crossfired by the enemies.

And then, The Amalfi successfully ambush and sink the DD, the DD just blame me because I'm not help him/her with radar. When i explained that my radar on cooldown time, he just called me noob. I just wonder, Am I doing something wrong here?

[Puggsley]

33 minutes ago, Tagnbag said:

but but but minimap takes up too much screen and stops me from seeing whats happening !  in all fairness as males we are trained from birth to ignore maps and instruction booklets. Females you have no excuse !

 

Ignore????

Surely you mean scorn.

And based on Mrs Puggs ability to navigate in a car using a map there might be a female sub-population who can see the mini-map and not read it.

Driving through Paris in the late 90s

"The intersection is coming up which way do i have to turn?"

"Hang on, hang on" Map is getting turned around.

"I've only got a couple of hundred metres to get into the right lane"

"Hang on" more tersely this time.

time ticks down, getting closer to decision point.

"OK I'm turning right"

50m past the intersection, "Why did you do that, we needed to go left" 

 

[Reinhard_of_Avercland]

2 minutes ago, rookieFTW said:

Yeah, but the RTS era punishes it extra brutal. If I recall correctly there's an era of CV sniping, where they secretly swing their planes across the map in a sneaky beaky fashion, if the enemy CV does not reposition with team or does not leave a fighter cover for itself it will be nuked to pieces. 

And RTS era encourages reposition a bit more if I am not wrong since planes only attack once, so if a CV position a bit forward he can recall the air fleet faster and have coordinate strikes faster. But the rework only allows one air group to be controlled, so the CV player can use other types of aircraft while waiting for one to return, repositioning did help but maybe most of them are too lazy to move 🤣 And new players can simply have access to high tier premium CVs by paying is just making the overall standards of CV playerbase drop (I highly doubt their multitasking ability and map awareness)

It was indeed brutal at punishing the unaware CV players, but at the same time they could prevent the sniping completely if they knew what they were doing. The IJN CVs were good to counter the sniping tactic because they could choose the loadout that emphasized fighters more than other squadrons.

You are right about the RTS encouraged the reposition. However the same thing still applies on the rework system, although the efficiency has been nerfed as you said (only one squadron at a time). The problem with the rework is that CV players can no longer reposition manually if they have deployed their squadron, they can only rely on the autopilot (which is not working as it should be), or recall their squadron & reposition manually. The old RTS had none of those restrictions, they could reposition with the same WASD buttons without having to recall their squadrons. But even so, some players just never learned....

[GoodMorning_MFs]

8 minutes ago, Sharr_Dextera said:

Am I doing something wrong here?

Of course not yours, the DD failed to notice a spotted Amalfi around 9km can't shift the blame around, its literally him misplaying. In the past I usually ping the minimap once, but now sometimes I have to ping it furiously 3 times to get the message through my teammates thicc mind

8 minutes ago, Reinhard_of_Avercland said:

The problem with the rework is that CV players can no longer reposition manually if they have deployed their squadron, they can only rely on the autopilot (which is not working as it should be), or recall their squadron & reposition manually. The old RTS had none of those restrictions, they could reposition with the same WASD buttons without having to recall their squadrons. But even so, some players just never learned....

Normally I wouldn't blame CV's dying if autopilot was the cause, its well known buggy as heck. But if my CV failed to notice a collapse flank, doesn't run despite being warned and gets pick off in spawn, oh boi I will be turning my lecturing mode on and the wording are depend on my current mood

[Lowyat]

6 hours ago, rookieFTW said:

too lazy to move

i'm guilty as charged

[etClassique]

Cannot agree more , I simply find it mind boggling why some would find it so difficult to just MOVE