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every TX Battle always meet Thunderer (1-2 ships)
Do you guys think WG will remove them ? or  will got nerf since coal ship is not immune to nerf ?

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Just now, Reinhard_of_Avercland said:

Pretty sure WG will pull that ship out from the Armory.

That & Georgia.

What would replace Thunderer though?

British Tog Boat maybe :Smile_trollface:

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2 hours ago, Reinhard_of_Avercland said:

What would replace Thunderer though?

H-44 )))))))))))))

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9 minutes ago, Reinhard_of_Avercland said:

What would replace Thunderer though?

How about a TX German BB :cap_tea:

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Yeah, we have Shikishima breaking the barrier of 46cm guns already so a H44 should be possible

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Yeah, that’s what happens. Boat gets too popular for simply being a good solid boat (not OP, but not bad), boat gets removed. Only a matter of time for Thunderer and Georgia. Salem should be safe for a while though. It’s never been that popular because it’s not really considered better, practically, than Des Moines. Just different. Salem is an example of what unique upgrades should do to ships. Make them play differently.

Luckily, I already have Thunderer. And enough Coal for Georgia... which I probably should buy before the next coupon expires... But waiting in case WG announce removal of another ship I might want.

Still a little sore that I missed out on JB because I bought Thunderer.

Maybe I should whale Xmas crates this year for first time ever to try to unlock?... Probably better things to spend money on...

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Should we wait for Soviet's 500mm BB?

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2 hours ago, Reinhard_of_Avercland said:

Pretty sure WG will pull that ship out from the Armory.

That & Georgia.

What would replace Thunderer though?

For Thunderer:

Ohio (But since WG basically admitted defeat with their unpopular NTC / RB, they basically give RP for grinds. So hopeful but unlikely.)
         (Why brought it up? Steel ships become Coal ships. So the possibility of Rubbish Burnheap ship turning to either Steel or Coal is possible.)

H-44 is also a good contender. But what armament? 450 mm (not real) 480 mm or 508 mm? (Note that she is 1/4 pen value like Thunderer)

Republique, but armed with 6 - 450 mm guns? AX configuration.

Yamato 460 mm main guns but with Shikishima 100 mm AA? (Literally copy paste ship. WG easy way out.)
Alternatively, Yamato preliminary A140-J3. 12 - 410 mm guns. Opposite of both Ohio and Thunderer.

 

As for Georgia:

Temereire. 456 mm version of Lion. 6 guns.

Alsace 406 mm version. 9 guns.
Alsace 430 mm version. 6 guns.
Alsace 450 mm version. 6 guns.

Heavily modified and armored Odin with 6 450 mm.

Izumo with 6 460 mm. (Ugh!)

 

Streatching my imagination:

USN Cruisers armed with 254 mm (10 in) / 45 or 50 cal.
The original version is 254 mm (10 in)/ 40. Found in the old USN Armored Cruisers Tennessee / Memphis Class.
Muzzle Velocity of 254 / 40 is 820 m/s. 254 / 45 would probably be around 870 - 890 m/s and 254 / 50 would be around 890 - 920 m/s. Note that USN shell gimmick is high arc.
French got 240 mm, UK got 234 mm, Bias got 230 mm, soooo.........

Germany has 240
Italy and Japan has 254
IKEA has 210 and 254 (I think they have auto loading 203 / 210 like Des Moines)

 

Anything 11 in / 283 mm or 12 in  / 305 mm are considered as super cruiser and not heavy cruiser. I am capping the limit to 10 inch / 254 mm.

 

Just my take.

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I have derailed the thread, oh well... I might as well chime in then.

There are so many good suggestions so far. I'd add the modernized version of Incomparable into that list

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3 hours ago, S0und_Theif said:

H-44 is also a good contender. But what armament? 450 mm (not real) 480 mm or 508 mm? (Note that she is 1/4 pen value like Thunderer)

508s, but WG will give them 1.0 sigma and french BB dispersion to compensate ))))))))))

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Less Derail more Suggestion plz.

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2 hours ago, hurricaneflyer said:

508s

:Smile_ohmy:

 

2 hours ago, hurricaneflyer said:

but WG will give them 1.0 sigma and french BB dispersion to compensate ))))))))))

:cap_hmm:

Please let them have torpedo armament like most premium German ships as compensation for the bad sigma.
This also compliments the German ER secondaries, 1/4 pen value of both main and secondary armaments, and turtleback armor.

 

Should T8 hull B to T10 German BB should have torpedo armament?

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Is it me of does H-44 look like FdG or GK with only 8 guns? In which case, what's the point?

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1 minute ago, Sparcie said:

Is it me of does H-44 look like FdG or GK with only 8 guns? In which case, what's the point?

She is an FdG / GK. But she is armed with 508 mm instead of 420 mm.

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There is Possibility Thunderer got removed and FD Roosevelt will in.....
but who knows 

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7 hours ago, Gesterbein said:

There is Possibility Thunderer got removed and FD Roosevelt will in.....
but who knows 

Oh please nooo

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13 hours ago, Sparcie said:

Is it me of does H-44 look like FdG or GK with only 8 guns? In which case, what's the point?

None of the H-class proposals were armed with triple turrets as their main guns, so GK's main guns in the game are as real as Monarch's 381mm triple turrets. I mean the 406 mm triple turret was planned before the H-class proposals. But the plan was later changed to twin turrets.

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If you want a good comparison for how popular the Thunderer is right now have a look at the overall games for the Conqueror which is at 1.69m and has been out for a long time now and compare that to the Thunderer which has 1.04m despite being out for what 1/3 of the time ? The Thunderer will be removed at some point because as you say they are everywhere.

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