I can't see the logic here...

[Reinhard_of_Avercland]

https://forum.worldofwarships.com/topic/221777-096-modifications-folder-issue/

So the main reason of why the update wiped out all mods stored in the previous patch is that WG "encourages" the players to stop using the outdated mods. WG apparently made it clear this clean up will happen on every update since 0.9.6.

But here are the points that WG might have missed:

1. Modders are always obliged to put the patch version on their published mods on the forum.
2. Most modders always have to verify whether their mods are working after the update or not.
3. All old mods that remain outdated for 3 consecutive updates will be locked into the archive until the modders update them.
4. Modpack creators are always in contact with the modders, which negates the possibility for the outdated mods to be downloadable in the modpacks.
5. All players that wish to use mods are strongly encouraged to only get the mods that are published on the forum, or from the modpacks which are approved by WG (Aslain's & Modstation).

That being said, WG went overboard on handling this issue with the outdated mods.

[Skarhabek]

just put the old mod file to newer mod folder...... it might cause error but it rarely happen

aslain download link sometimes is really SLOOOOWW

[Manacetamol]

ah well, this patch strucked me down

update and upload every single of them

[yobbo1972]

when has WG ever used logic?? 

[Fanmarsh]

what if mods with [ALL] tag in it?

[dejiko_nyo]

Logic and wg = error. Cannot compute .

[HobartAWD]

Your mistake was looking for logic in things WG do in WOWS. WG and logic........ Yeah, don't even try to travel down that road.

 

[Grygus_Triss]

WG use logic?

[S0und_Theif]

WG / Lesta and Logic is like oil and water.

They don't mix.

WG / Lesta favors ego over logic. And their black magick god "the spreadsheet".

[Arzach]

57 minutes ago, S0und_Theif said:

WG / Lesta and Logic is like oil and water.

They don't mix.

WG / Lesta favors ego over logic. And their black magick god "the spreadsheet".

At least spreadsheet doesn't lie... people who wrongly interpret it who's lying tho. The same with statistics. 

[S0und_Theif]

2 minutes ago, Arzach said:

At least spreadsheet doesn't lie... people who wrongly interpret it who's lying tho. The same with statistics. 

The spreadsheet can lie. In a way.

Remember there are bots (script using players and account sharing players) in the game. And the spreadsheet can not distinguish between bot and player. The spreadsheet collects all data.

 

That said, I have to (half) agree with you that the interpreter is lying.

They can not distinguish bot and player. They can only see potato or unicrum.

[HobartAWD]

20 hours ago, Grygus_Triss said:

WG use logic?

Apparently so. I have been told it is the crucial ingredient for making balans and bias work as intended in game.

[Arzach]

14 hours ago, S0und_Theif said:

The spreadsheet can lie. In a way.

Remember there are bots (script using players and account sharing players) in the game. And the spreadsheet can not distinguish between bot and player. The spreadsheet collects all data.

 

That said, I have to (half) agree with you that the interpreter is lying.

They can not distinguish bot and player. They can only see potato or unicrum.

Well, if you included bots into the variables then you're right... But WG can distinguish bots tho. They just can't do anything to it because it will violate their ToS or something like that. 

[S0und_Theif]

12 hours ago, Arzach said:

Well, if you included bots into the variables then you're right... But WG can distinguish bots tho.

No they don't. There was a player who was able to use those illegal scripts, with his / her alt account, without being detected.

And bragged about it (sarcasmly) in the forum. But, he / she dislike the bots but he / she just took a different approach on letting WG know about it.

He / she was wrong for posting it in public though.

But it just shows that WG can not distinguish between bot users and real players.

 

I can still remember it took WG 1 month to ban a clan full of bots during the PR PR fiasco. It also took a lot of people to point it out before WG got the attention and took action.

 

There are bot users that WG removed only to come back again with a different account. There are bot users who replaced their IGN in hopes that they will never get caught. There are bot users who try to fool WG by being a griever.

 

12 hours ago, Arzach said:

They just can't do anything to it because it will violate their ToS or something like that. 

They can do something about it. It's part of their EULA agreement.

https://legal.asia.wargaming.net/en/game-rules-wows/

Sections 2.12, 2.15, 2.16, 2.17, 2.19, 5.07 and 5.8

They have 2 strike policy or 3 strike policy.

 

 

WG just tolerate them because:

Money
Bot (srcipt users and account sharing) are required to have a T8 / T9 premium ship as a minimum requirement. So that they can have good credit and FXP return.
IGN rename also gives WG money. IGN rename will cost 2 000 doubloons. Once they got what they wanted they change their IGN in hopes of not getting caught or keep doing it and constantly changing IGN.

Population
We used to only have 14k players at peak. Now we have 23k. But lately it's only reaching 18k. So 4k to 5k players are either bots, quit the game, or not time to play.

Sub_O's trolllish / uprofessional response. (Which goes against WG EULA agreement.)

 

So spreadsheet data is slightly / mostly artificial.

Not all but there is discrepancy in the variable.

[Earl_of_Arland]

They do have logic, as shown here

but sometimes, the logic cannot be understood

[S0und_Theif]

11 hours ago, Earl_of_Arland said:

They do have logic, as shown here

 

but sometimes, the logic cannot be understood

WG / Lesta and Logic:

[Reinhard_of_Avercland]

36 minutes ago, Earl_of_Arland said:

They do have logic, as shown here

but sometimes, the logic cannot be understood

It became top BB in plane shot down because most players are fully aware of how tanky Kiremlin is towards the normal shells, thus the high plane kills. Because most CV players with enough common sense would certainly try to kill the Kremlin before it gets too close.

I have both Montana & Kremlin, and I say Kremlin's AA is nowhere near Montana's level. But because it is a basic knowledge to know how godly the American's AA stats are, you would never send your planes to them unless it is a last resort. Thus the lower plane kill. And of course Montana is much easier to deal with, you can take any BB, CL, CA, DD; and go 1 vs 1 against her.

So yeah his logic is broken...

[dejiko_nyo]

Reads too much spreadshit. Does not use his brain to dissect out why things are like that. Are inept players affecting the numbers? Are good players taking advantage of the situation? How are the ships played? When you read numbers in a spreadsheet, you need to analyse WHY are you getting such numbers.