ST 0.9.7, American Battleships and A German Battleship (Please rename Florida)

[S0und_Theif]

Alright everyone, time to re-purchase your Colorado and start re-grinding her. Split starts from T8. I was expecting T5.

Assuming WG will use the token bundle like the one found in bias cruiser split, don't expect to get any of the ships for grinds.

 

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Please note that all information in the development blog is preliminary and subject to change during testing. Any showcased features may or may not end up on the main server. The final information will be published on our game's website.

 

Researchable American battleships Kansas VIII, Minnesota IX, Vermont X, and Tier VII American battleship Florida will be added to the game in the upcoming supertest session.

Battleships of the new sub-branch have devastating salvos (e.g. Vermont X has 12 18" guns) but a long main battery reload time, low speed, and relatively light armor. 

Florida is a representative of the same battleships sub-class as Champagne and Slava: she has good accuracy, but weak armor and a relatively high-sitting citadel

 

The German battleship Brandenburg VIII is added to the game. The characteristics of this ship are currently in the preliminary balancing stage and will be published when they are ready.

[S0und_Theif]

American battleship Kansas, Tier VIII

Hit points – 67,000. Plating - 32 mm.

Main battery - 4x3 406 mm. Firing range - 22.7 km.
Maximum HE shell damage – 5,700. Chance to cause fire – 36%. HE initial velocity - 803 m/s.
Maximum AP shell damage - 12,400. AP initial velocity - 768 m/s. Reload time - 40.0 s. 180 degree turn time - 45.0 s. Maximum dispersion - 287 m. Sigma – 1.70.

Secondary Armament:
8x2 127.0 mm, range - 5.0 km. Maximum HE shell damage – 1,800. Chance to cause fire – 5%. HE initial velocity - 792 m/s

AA defense: 23x2 20.0 mm, 8x2 127.0 mm, 12x4 40.0 mm.
AA defense short-range: continuous damage per second - 280, hit probability - 70 %, action zone 0.1-2.0 km;
AA defense mid-range: continuous damage per second - 319, hit probability - 75 %, action zone 0.1-3.5 km;
AA defense long-range: continuous damage per second - 147, hit probability - 75 %, action zone 0.1-5.8 km;
Number of explosions in a salvo - 6, damage within an explosion - 1,540; action zone 3.5-5.8 km.

Maximum speed - 23.0 kt. Turning circle radius - 700 m. Rudder shift time – 15.7 s. Surface detectability – 16.6 km. Air detectability – 13.5 km. Detectability after firing main guns in smoke – 16.0 km.

Available consumables:
Slot 1 - Damage Control Party
Slot 2 - Repair Party (Duration time 28 s; HP per second 442.2; Reload time 80 s; Charges 4)
Slot 3 - Fighter/Spotting Aircraft

 

 

American battleship Minnesota, Tier IX

Hit points – 76,300. Plating - 32 mm.

Main battery - 4x3 406 mm. Firing range - 23.3 km.
Maximum HE shell damage – 5,700. Chance to cause fire – 36%. HE initial velocity - 820 m/s. Maximum AP shell damage - 13,500. AP initial velocity - 762 m/s. Reload time - 40.0 s. 180 degree turn time - 45.0 s. Maximum dispersion - 293 m. Sigma – 1.70.

Secondary Armament:
8x2 127.0 mm, range - 6.0 km. Maximum HE shell damage – 1,800. Chance to cause fire – 5%. HE initial velocity - 792 m/s

AA defense: 37x2 20.0 mm, 8x2 127.0 mm, 16x4 40.0 mm.
AA defense short-range: continuous damage per second - 441, hit probability - 70 %, action zone 0.1-2.0 km;
AA defense mid-range: continuous damage per second - 413, hit probability - 75 %, action zone 0.1-3.5 km;
AA defense long-range: continuous damage per second - 140, hit probability - 75 %, action zone 0.1-5.8 km;
Number of explosions in a salvo - 6, damage within an explosion - 1,610; action zone 3.5-5.8 km.

Maximum speed - 23.0 kt. Turning circle radius - 700 m. Rudder shift time – 16.7 s. Surface detectability – 17.5 km. Air detectability – 13.4 km. Detectability after firing main guns in smoke – 17.1 km.

Available consumables:
Slot 1 - Damage Control Party
Slot 2 - Repair Party (Duration time 28 s; HP per second 504; Reload time 80 s; Charges 4;
Slot 3 - Fighter/Spotting Aircraft

 

 

American battleship Vermont, Tier X

Hit points – 102,800. Plating - 32 mm.

Main battery - 4x3 457 mm. Firing range - 24.5 km.
Maximum HE shell damage – 6,450. Chance to cause fire – 43%. HE initial velocity - 800 m/s.
Maximum AP shell damage - 15,750. AP initial velocity - 732 m/s. Reload time - 40.0 s. 180 degree turn time - 45.0 s. Maximum dispersion - 305 m. Sigma – 1.70.

Secondary Armament:
8x2 127.0 mm, range - 6.0 km. Maximum HE shell damage – 1,800. Chance to cause fire – 5%. HE initial velocity - 792 m/s

AA defense: 36x2 20.0 mm, 8x2 127.0 mm, 21x4 40.0 mm.
AA defense short-range: continuous damage per second - 424, hit probability - 70 %, action zone 0.1-2.0 km;
AA defense mid-range: continuous damage per second - 536, hit probability - 75 %, action zone 0.1-3.5 km;
AA defense long-range: continuous damage per second - 137, hit probability - 75 %, action zone 0.1-5.8 km;
Number of explosions in a salvo - 6, damage within an explosion - 1,680; action zone 3.5-5.8 km.

Maximum speed - 23.0 kt. Turning circle radius - 960 m. Rudder shift time – 19.1 s. Surface detectability – 18.0 km. Air detectability – 15.3 km. Detectability after firing main guns in smoke – 19.2 km.

Available consumables:
Slot 1 - Damage Control Party
Slot 2 - Repair Party (Duration time 28 s; HP per second 678; Reload time 80 s; Charges 4)
Slot 3 - Fighter/Spotting Aircraft

 

 

American battleship Florida, Tier VII

Hit points – 63,800. Plating - 25 mm.

Main battery - 3x4 356 mm. Firing range - 18.6 km.
Maximum HE shell damage – 5,000. Chance to cause fire – 30%. HE initial velocity - 861 m/s.
Maximum AP shell damage - 10,500. AP initial velocity - 823 m/s. Reload time - 30.0 s. 180 degree turn time - 45.0 s. Maximum dispersion - 204 m. Sigma – 1.70.

Secondary Armament:
4x1 127.0 mm, range - 5.0 km. Maximum HE shell damage – 1,800. Chance to cause fire – 5%. HE initial velocity - 792 m/s
6x2 127.0 mm, range - 5.0 km. Maximum HE shell damage – 1,800. Chance to cause fire – 5%. HE initial velocity - 792 m/s

AA defense: 37x1 20.0 mm, 6x2 127.0 mm, 8x4 40.0 mm, 3x2 40.0 mm, 4x1 127.0 mm.
AA defense short-range: continuous damage per second - 319, hit probability - 70 %, action zone 0.1-2.0 km;
AA defense mid-range: continuous damage per second - 270, hit probability - 75 %, action zone 0.1-3.5 km;
AA defense long-range: continuous damage per second - 158, hit probability - 75 %, action zone 0.1-5.8 km;
Number of explosions in a salvo - 5, damage within an explosion - 1,400; action zone 3.5-5.8 km.

Maximum speed - 27.0 kt. Turning circle radius - 760 m. Rudder shift time – 15.4 s. Surface detectability – 13.9 km. Air detectability – 10.1 km. Detectability after firing main guns in smoke – 12.0 km.
Available consumables:
Slot 1 - Damage Control Party
Slot 2 - Repair Party (Duration time 28 s; HP per second 319; Reload time 80 s; Charges 3)
Slot 3 - Defensive AA fire
Slot 4 - Fighter/Spotting Aircraft

All stats are listed without crew and upgrade modifiers but with the best available modules.

[S0und_Theif]

And for the love of Jesus, Mary and Joseph, and all his carpenter friends, why use the name Florida?

Florida (BB30) is a 1910 dreadnought. A real ship. Not paper ship.

That ship is basically North Carolina before they up gunned her to 16 inch and split the funnels into two.

There are still 5 more names that can be used for that ship.
Connecticut
Nebraska
Oregon
Virginia
Rhode Island

 

I also don't mind using Delaware and North Dakota. Since Delaware class are almost the same as Florida class with little improvement. And didn't saw action in WW2.
Utah was a casualty in Pearl Harbor during WW2 hence saw action, while both Wyoming and Arkansas saw action and fought in WW2. Much like New York and Texas. Hence T5.

 

Or better yet, why not just put a year model after the ship name. Just like W. Virginia 1941
N. Carolina 1935

At least this way, both ships, N. Carolina and Washington can have their 14 inch guns version.

 

And assuming WG have no plans for the other 3 Montana class BB, use their names.

Louisiana
New Hampshire
Maine

Though Louisiana sounds better due to her "French" turret layout.

 

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Florida and real (not paper) American battleship that saw action in both world wars. They deserve to be recognized.

USS Florida (BB30) can occupy T4. Since most T4 ships have 10 guns anyway.
USS Utah (BB31) can be a premium.

USS Wyoming (BB32) can move to T5 with buffs on her HP pool, AA guns, access to slot 3 upgrade and sigma.

USS Nevada (BB36) can occupy T6

USS Tennessee (BB43) can occupy T7. Hull A and Hull B will be her 1935 and 1941 hull respectively. Hull C will be her 1944 version.
Colorado could actually have a Hull C that will make her look like W. Virginia 1944.

USS Indiana (BB58) can occupy T8.

USS Illinois (BB65) / USS Kentucky (BB66) occupies T9 but armed with 3 x 2 457 mm

T10 = 4 x 2 457 mm

 

As for paper battlecruisers:

Also USS Constellation (CC2) and USS Constitution (CC5) could be T7 battle cruisers. They will look like USS Colorado hull B. And have wider funnels.
USS Constellation (CC2) will be armed with 10 or 12 - 14 inch guns found in N. Mexico / Tennessee class
USS Constitution (CC5) will be armed with 8 - 16 inch guns found in Colorado class

While USS United States (CC6) could be T8 battle cruiser. With 8 x 16 inch guns and have a modern look like Tennessee 1944 / W. Virginia 1944. But with 2 funnels.

Just like Admiral Class (HMS Hood) these ships will have speed, but sacrifices armor.
And they have a longer silhouette compared to their dreadnought brethren.

[S0und_Theif]

Since we are talking about the paper ship "Florida", which looks more French than American (I guess Lady Liberty has influence cuz she's French)

 

Can I get an KGV preliminary with the original 12 - 14 inch guns as planned rather than the 10 - 14 inch guns.

The ship can be named Duke of Cornwall.
1. KGV has that title. He also has the title "Prince of Wales" and "Duke of York". Both of which was used in the KGV class battleship.
2. Ship is a KGV preliminary. Hence still within the Royal Navy naming convention.
3. The name HMS Duke of Cornwall exist in the Royal Navy service. But not as a battleship.

 

And Tourville, French Lyon class with 16 - 13.4 inch guns in AB-XY configuration.



Image from Wikipedia, Lyon class battleship.

[Reinhard_of_Avercland]

I'd rather rename it to North Carolina, and the current North Carolina will be renamed to Washington.

I mean since there is still no hint about Washington to exist in the near future, WG might be better off using that name on an existing ship.

[S0und_Theif]

5 minutes ago, Reinhard_of_Avercland said:

I'd rather rename it to North Carolina, and the current North Carolina will be renamed to Washington.

I mean since there is still no hint about Washington to exist in the near future, WG might be better off using that name on an existing ship.

That is assuming WG has no plans to make a N. Carolina premium.

I'm also ok with this arrangement.

[Rina_Pon]

I never sold Colorado and play her occasionally. I do not want a T8 Colorado, a T9 Colorado, and most definitely not a T10 Colorado.

The transition from Colorado to N. Carolina is one of the most satisfying single tier upgrades in all of World of Warships. How anyone would willingly give that up I have no idea.

Colorado is not a bad ship per se., but it's merits are few and far between, and become less and less on any hypothetical higher tier variant of the concept.

[dejiko_nyo]

5 hours ago, Rina_Pon said:

 How anyone would willingly give that up I have no idea.

The answer is just the same as with the UU redesigned: Vodka fueled insanity.

Slow ships do have its merits if the game wasn't time limited, concealment isn't an issue, you don't have to chase much faster targets, your job is to provide onshore artillery bombardment, there is no ridiculous reward system that prioritizes damage... Wait. That's like so many of the game's mechanics that is hobbling the ship...

[Grygus_Triss]

13 hours ago, Rina_Pon said:

I never sold Colorado and play her occasionally. I do not want a T8 Colorado, a T9 Colorado, and most definitely not a T10 Colorado.

The transition from Colorado to N. Carolina is one of the most satisfying single tier upgrades in all of World of Warships. How anyone would willingly give that up I have no idea.

Colorado is not a bad ship per se., but it's merits are few and far between, and become less and less on any hypothetical higher tier variant of the concept.

Agreed

7 hours ago, dejiko_nyo said:

The answer is just the same as with the UU redesigned: Vodka fueled insanity.

Slow ships do have its merits if the game wasn't time limited, concealment isn't an issue, you don't have to chase much faster targets, your job is to provide onshore artillery bombardment, there is no ridiculous reward system that prioritizes damage... Wait. That's like so many of the game's mechanics that is hobbling the ship...

I don’t understand the Thinking...

Slow, light armour, long range heavy salvo...

Obviously they’re going for Artillery/sniper type, and arguably, that’s more suitable for the current meta. Except when you get spotted and targeted by CVs well behind all your cruisers. Oh, but they’re US ships, they’ll probably get decent AA... too bad that doesn’t help much these days.

No, I don’t care if the meta rewards snipers, it’s a boring way to play, and BBs snipe too much anyway.

I’m the sort of person who will even take a Yamato in closer, as close as I can and attack those Star Destroyers at point blank range.

...ok, not really that close, I’ll stick with the cruiser line, I just fall naturally into that quote...

Anyway, WG should stop pandering to the meta by creating more meta suitable ships which reinforce it.

[Project45_Opytny]

21 hours ago, Rina_Pon said:

I never sold Colorado and play her occasionally. I do not want a T8 Colorado, a T9 Colorado, and most definitely not a T10 Colorado.

The transition from Colorado to N. Carolina is one of the most satisfying single tier upgrades in all of World of Warships. How anyone would willingly give that up I have no idea.

Colorado is not a bad ship per se., but it's merits are few and far between, and become less and less on any hypothetical higher tier variant of the concept.

The branch is completely feasible indeed, but on the other hand the purpose of such a branch and the possible roles they can play in the game is also highly questionable.

Also even though they are designed as traditional American dreadnoughts, WG has already granted an almost universal engine overhaul for those Imperial German dreadnoughts, not to say about Lyon and Normandie.

[Manacetamol]

fix it

[Sharr_Dextera]

When I see the news about new US BB line split, this pic comes to my mind....

Spoiler

 

Without a tons of gold bullion, of course....

 

[dejiko_nyo]

And the sad thing is most of the US bullion isn't stored there. It's in a vault in NY. Die Hard 3 has the right idea.

[S0und_Theif]

1 hour ago, MatterCore said:

fix it

Remembers wax on, wax off.

Hey, Mr Miyagi, sup?

[THAI_THIEF]

I hate snail fossil

[humusz]

4 hours ago, Sharr_Dextera said:

When I see the news about new US BB line split, this pic comes to my mind....

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Without a tons of gold bullion, of course....

 

HE ship be like :

 

[Reinhard_of_Avercland]

Please don't flag me for this. I just found the coincidence to be funny.

[dejiko_nyo]

USS Sanders

[Manacetamol]

Okaya, leme rememe

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[humusz]

1 hour ago, MatterCore said:

Okaya, leme rememe

Lv1

 

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Name Should buffet chain, with corporate sponsor sticker on it. Like TX - Sizzler

[Manacetamol]

6 minutes ago, humusz said:

Name Should buffet chain, with corporate sponsor sticker on it. Like TX - Sizzler

Food every where

[humusz]

1 minute ago, MatterCore said:

Food every where

Well, they are fat.....juicy.....and delicus

[S0und_Theif]

You guys are making me hungry.

[S0und_Theif]

Sooo..........

 

We Crave Sustenance!

Fffffood! Food! FOOD!

[S0und_Theif]

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