How can you expect people to spend money when game is filled with bots

[PotatoProzky]

How can you expect people to spend money when game is filled with bots.

When you know you enter a battle, half of your team is going to be bots.

When you know you going to lose before the game begins.

When you know you going to waste another 20mins of your efforts, brain, life to a losing game,

When you trying to use that last few hours of premium time you bought, but all you get if frustration.

 

[Puggsley]

Are you playing Coop?

It was not too bad on randoms over the weekend.

 

[PotatoProzky]

5 minutes ago, Puggsley said:

Are you playing Coop?

It was not too bad on randoms over the weekend.

 

Random, if it coop, I would be ok, since all enemy is bot anyway.

[BB61_Iowaclass]

Because bots spend more money than you.

[PotatoProzky]

3 hours ago, BB61_Iowaclass said:

Because bots spend more money than you.

If that is the case, fine.

 

Money matters.

[EULA_violator]

6 hours ago, Entropy_Sky said:

If that is the case, fine.

 

Money matters.

not just the money, bots boost KPI so WG leaves them be 

they know who is and isn't a bot, they just aren't doing anything about it

 

[Sharr_Dextera]

10 hours ago, BB61_Iowaclass said:

Because bots spend more money than you.

sad but true....

[PotatoProzky]

16 hours ago, CV_NMSL said:

not just the money, bots boost KPI so WG leaves them be 

they know who is and isn't a bot, they just aren't doing anything about it

 

Sorry for my ignorance, but what is KPI?

[EULA_violator]

5 minutes ago, Entropy_Sky said:

Sorry for my ignorance, but what is KPI?

dont worry if you dont know, it's a technical term that guys who study business use, it basically marks out certain data points as indicators for how healthy a business/project is, for wows the KPI would include "time spent on game per capita", "amount of players active at any time" etc. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Performance_indicator

you can read the wiki if you want more in-depth knowledge but basically bots inflate the stats in terms of the business and make the game look more healthy/productive than it actually is 

 

[PotatoProzky]

48 minutes ago, CV_NMSL said:

dont worry if you dont know, it's a technical term that guys who study business use, it basically marks out certain data points as indicators for how healthy a business/project is, for wows the KPI would include "time spent on game per capita", "amount of players active at any time" etc. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Performance_indicator

you can read the wiki if you want more in-depth knowledge but basically bots inflate the stats in terms of the business and make the game look more healthy/productive than it actually is 

 

Cool.

 

But couldn't they limit the bot to Coop mode only?

[EULA_violator]

7 minutes ago, Entropy_Sky said:

Cool.

 

But couldn't they limit the bot to Coop mode only?

no way, KPI is always recorded in categories, they must have different KPIs for PVP and PVE 

[Puggsley]

On 6/16/2020 at 1:21 PM, CV_NMSL said:

dont worry if you dont know, it's a technical term that guys who study business use, it basically marks out certain data points as indicators for how healthy a business/project is, for wows the KPI would include "time spent on game per capita", "amount of players active at any time" etc. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Performance_indicator

you can read the wiki if you want more in-depth knowledge but basically bots inflate the stats in terms of the business and make the game look more healthy/productive than it actually is 

 

But why?

They are a privately held company so they would have a whole suite of much better KPI's to assess the economics of the game. Its not like they are trying to impress investors (who do due diligence anyway).

Too many bots would just add expense with no revenue wouldn't they?

For external users of KPIs does it matter that much? Do people look at those sorts of things when choosing to download the game and then spend money on it?

I can see how it would maybe sway a game reviewer, but would they then not comment on the fact that such a easily gamed KPI means that "even though it looks like healthy numbers in game, lots of them are bots.." 

 

[sparkytroll]

not trying to be offensive, but i like bot, they are so predictable

as a team mate, it is a decoy

as a enemy, it is meat making its way to your mouth

[PotatoProzky]

On 6/19/2020 at 12:24 PM, sparkytroll said:

not trying to be offensive, but i like bot, they are so predictable

as a team mate, it is a decoy

as a enemy, it is meat making its way to your mouth

When you have 4 or 5 bot in your team, doing circle at the back of map, trying to get over the edge of world.

They aren't decoys, and they aren't meat.

 

And your are assuming both team have equal amount of bot.

More frequently, in my experience, the bots are distributed unevenly, the wining team will always have no more than 3 bots, and losing team(which almost always happen to "me") will have no less than 4 and up to 6.

Which is just a game at extreme 10 VS 6, and 9 vs 8 at best(but if it a DD that is bot vs human, bye bye at the start).

[sparkytroll]

1 小時前，Entropy_Sky 說：

When you have 4 or 5 bot in your team, doing circle at the back of map, trying to get over the edge of world.

They aren't decoys, and they aren't meat.

 

And your are assuming both team have equal amount of bot.

More frequently, in my experience, the bots are distributed unevenly, the wining team will always have no more than 3 bots, and losing team(which almost always happen to "me") will have no less than 4 and up to 6.

Which is just a game at extreme 10 VS 6, and 9 vs 8 at best(but if it a DD that is bot vs human, bye bye at the start).

so wt do you suggest then? yell at everyone arent playing well? you will run out of curse long before players

this game is wt it is , we got to make do wt we got

besides, i am the one should be blamed, i think WG is, they made it possible.