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anyone got Siegfried? should i sell my soul? is that worth it?

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Already have Georgia, bigger gun, faster (38knot lol), tankier, better secondaries..... 

 

BUT FOR SOME WEIRD REASON, the darkness keep whisper to me..... GET SIEGFRIED

ITS The same whisper that told me to play CV 4 year ago!

 

i am look for stat in Wiki, look at videos.... nothing special, basically Gnissenau gun... same DPM, same turret traverse. T9 Kronstat have more 10K+HP, the other Large Cruiser have distinc feature like radar or high damage like IJN. its basically Gnissenau put in T9 MM for 24x7...... its also look crap compared to Agier.

NOT TO MENTION, I NEED TO SACRIFICE MORE T10 ship grind!

its damn price is higher than Agier, even high that WG dont put it in shop!

 

as a religious CV player, thinking logically Siegfried is basically Beep Beep* sheep in a BEEEP*

 

 

I know i am already insane by today standart, BUT WHAT THE HELL WITH SIEGFRIED? why it didnt whisper me to get Agier?

the Darkness of Sith KEEP WHISPER TO ME, GEEET SIEGFRIEED..... GEEEETT SIEEGFRIEEEEEEEEEEEEEED!!! SEGHPRIEDDD

 

if the darkness keep whisper to me to get Siegfried, there must be some special unknown feature...

why not Agier? why the hell i must get Siegfried?

 

 

anyone already have Siegfried? what it feels like? is that ship fun? 

 

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Up to you (No insult intended).

 

The mere thought of "re-grind / re-crawl" all my hard earned ships makes me look away at NTC (Ain't gonna call it RB. It was not reworked. It was only renamed. It does not deserve the name RB). 

As well as WG will sell them for half the price of what they are worth is just highway robbery.

Unless the real intention is to ask players to shell out cash for doubloons, and convert ship XP to FXP. Which is counter-productive to what their "said" goal was. Play low tier.

 

The game is not CoD, it's WoWs. Copying someone else idea, but then backfires at them is a WG issue and not the playerbase / community.

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Welp, THIS just happened...
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Welcome back Montana.

And as she was the x2 Research points I am now in THIS position...
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4k to Ohio, or Seigfried now...

?????????

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3 minutes ago, Max_Battle said:

Welp, THIS just happened...
wb_monty.thumb.jpg.cd04ca76268ddb31b2dd04248e780edf.jpg
Welcome back Montana.

And as she was the x2 Research points I am now in THIS position...
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4k to Ohio, or Seigfried now...

?????????

How much was the old price? Did WG inflate the prices?

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2 minutes ago, S0und_Theif said:

How much was the old price? Did WG inflate the prices?

Uhm, I don't think any prices changed.

It's just that I'd been slowly grinding out the research points to get Ohio... and now Seigfried is available...

Think I am going to abandon my lust for Ohio and just go German now...

EDIT: ie I could grind Seattle and finish the CL US tree (for another TX x2 research points) OR reset my US DD line (for x2) and then get back to Benson  - either of which would get me the 62k I need for Ohio.

Or... just get Sieg now.

 

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4 minutes ago, Max_Battle said:

Welp, THIS just happened...
wb_monty.thumb.jpg.cd04ca76268ddb31b2dd04248e780edf.jpg
Welcome back Montana.

And as she was the x2 Research points I am now in THIS position...
rb_cash.thumb.png.a8136bf801cbdcb21f9be2d3c09614cb.png
4k to Ohio, or Seigfried now...

?????????

it depends on what you want

objectively speaking Ohio is worse than Montana tier for tier, but she's good fun in randoms and an ok option for CW or ranked

Siegfried isn't as good as Alaska and the dispersion will make you rage hard, but she's a pretty good T9 credit grinder if you are into that kind of thing and a rare prem german ships that isn't actually total dogshit

 

pick your poision

 

BUT FOR THE LOVE OF GOD DONT PICK COLBERT

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1 minute ago, Max_Battle said:

Uhm, I don't think any prices changed.

It's just that I'd been slowly grinding out the research points to get Ohio... and now Seigfried is available...

Think I am going to abandon my lust for Ohio and just go German now...

Yeah, if I was also in your shoes, it be a hard choice. :Smile_sad:

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2 minutes ago, CV_NMSL said:

it depends on what you want

objectively speaking Ohio is worse than Montana tier for tier, but she's good fun in randoms and an ok option for CW or ranked

Siegfried isn't as good as Alaska and the dispersion will make you rage hard, but she's a pretty good T9 credit grinder if you are into that kind of thing and a rare prem german ships that isn't actually total dogshit

 

pick your poision

 

BUT FOR THE LOVE OF GOD DONT PICK COLBERT

Hmmm.

Pretty sure I am going German here.

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1 minute ago, Max_Battle said:

Hmmm.

Pretty sure I am going German here.

go ahead, she isnt bad for a T9 CB and you cant really go wrong with something that's only 2nd to a Alaska at the tier

you'll suffer a lot more than Alaska bow in tho cuz of your 380s and the armor changes so play smart and flank hard

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8 minutes ago, CV_NMSL said:

go ahead, she isnt bad for a T9 CB and you cant really go wrong with something that's only 2nd to a Alaska at the tier

you'll suffer a lot more than Alaska bow in tho cuz of your 380s and the armor changes so play smart and flank hard

'tis done.

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6 minutes ago, Max_Battle said:

Hmmm.

Pretty sure I am going German here.

Also adding to some of @CV_NMSL points:

Siegfried has torpedo armament. Something that German BB lacks.
The lousy BB like dispersion is the con fo her.
But having 7.6 km base range secondary and torpedo armament gives her a Tirpitz like playstyle.
Minus the extra thinn armor.

I could be wrong though. :fish_book:

 

And T9 premiums are a good credit printing machine compared to T10 premiums.

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dear WG :

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getting 3x Kleber is piece of Cake, i dont need to reset other line LEL

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3 hours ago, Skarhabek said:

anyone already have Siegfried? what it feels like? is that ship fun

Unknown dark voice whispers, "Do you remember Missouri? What kind of super performance that she has above Iowa? Ohhh... The radar! Is it useful for a range type BB? Does she has super OP shell compared to Iowa? Then why Missouri, why not Iowa? Missouri was tagged for 750k FXP... On the other hand, you can get Iowa completely for free. Although you want to spent the same FXP to get an Iowa, it will cost you only half than Missouri price tag."

It whispers again, "Missouri is rubbish... It is not worth to spent double FXP just to get a useless radar. It is not a toy for playing from the distance..."

Then the dark voice fading in the thin air, "Get Missouri... Get Missouri... You will thank me later.... Bwahahahaha..."

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4 hours ago, Max_Battle said:

Welp, THIS just happened...
wb_monty.thumb.jpg.cd04ca76268ddb31b2dd04248e780edf.jpg
Welcome back Montana.

And as she was the x2 Research points I am now in THIS position...
rb_cash.thumb.png.a8136bf801cbdcb21f9be2d3c09614cb.png
4k to Ohio, or Seigfried now...

?????????

well i like Ohio more than Seigfried

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I played her like 3rd line of support, i find a spot where i can hide but broad view and multiple targets .... i like to snipe because her guns AP nasty to cruiser, but hiding because bb same tier and higher tier can 1 shot me

if 2 bb push i will rear up and use them as meat shield; i would provide dd scout and prevent them but the ship shine toward end of battle where you have to "mop" up

If situation allow me to farm, switch between HE and AP 

 

very careful with brawl, not to engage brawl the armor is not worth it

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Enjoy Max.

She can be quite devastating in co-op battles.

Especially when she is pitted against lower tiers......

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2 hours ago, LtDan_IceCream said:

Enjoy Max.

She can be quite devastating in co-op battles.

Especially when she is pitted against lower tiers......

Thanks.

I'm kind of biased anyway. Love secondaries of all kinds and American and German ships are my faves.

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4 hours ago, LtDan_IceCream said:

Enjoy Max.

She can be quite devastating in co-op battles.

Especially when she is pitted against lower tiers......

You are trying to tempt me are you...

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7 minutes ago, dejiko_nyo said:

You are trying to tempt me are you...

I enjoyed my time testing her.....

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22 minutes ago, LtDan_IceCream said:

I enjoyed my time testing her.....

And your captain skills and module build was....?

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1 minute ago, Max_Battle said:

And your captain skills and module build was....?

Full close combat build;

PT, PM, EM, BFT, AFT, MFCS, CE

Modules;

Main armaments Mod 1,  Damage Con 1, Aiming Sys 1, Steering Mod 1,  Concealment 1, Reload booster

 

 

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9 minutes ago, LtDan_IceCream said:

Full close combat build;

PT, PM, EM, BFT, AFT, MFCS, CE

Modules;

Main armaments Mod 1,  Damage Con 1, Aiming Sys 1, Steering Mod 1,  Concealment 1, Reload booster

 

 

Aux or main battery reload booster?

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6 minutes ago, Max_Battle said:

Aux or main battery reload booster?

Main

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21 hours ago, CV_NMSL said:

Siegfried isn't as good as Alaska and the dispersion will make you rage hard

 

21 hours ago, S0und_Theif said:

Siegfried has torpedo armament. Something that German BB lacks.
The lousy BB like dispersion is the con fo her.

Siegfried has the best dispersion of any super cruiser in the game - she has the standard cruiser dispersion formula.  She also has the cruiser standard sigma of 2.05, the same sigma as Alaska and Agir.

All other super cruisers have the old Graf Spee formula (more commonly known now as the supercruiser formula - basically more accurate than BB's, less accurate than cruisers), with the exception of Kronshtadt which has the RN/US/KM BB formula.

As an example, base horizontal dispersion of the rest of the super cruisers at 5/10/15/20km is 90/132/174/216m.  Siegfried's dispersion at those ranges are 68/102/137/171m.  That is very significantly better.

What lets the ship down in terms of hits per salvo is clearly the gun count.  Also, despite having 380's, there isn't much more that Siegfried can overmatch than the 305mm armed supercruisers - just some light cruiser 25mm bows and sterns.  In practical use, you still have to pick the vast majority of shots with the knowledge that you can't rely on overmatch, and have to aim for the correct parts and angles of the ship to pen.  For any cruiser or DD player who uses AP regularly, this will be second nature, but some players who mainly use BB's may be disappointed.

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