398 [-ISO-] mr_glitchy_R Member 1,152 posts 7,775 battles Report post #1 Posted March 22, 2020 Something so small that makes this operation difficult and different than other operation is the fact that 95% of enemy ships are using camouflages and they are bow in. You look at other operations like Aegis, Killer Whale, or Raptor rescue. Most enemies in these ops aren't equipped with camos. This makes landing shells and dealing damage a lot harder. Especially when you're in a BB. It's kinda frustrating how you are the only one being the unicum, and the rest of your teams are full of incompetence. I suggest WG should remove the camos on all enemies, the cruiser Romeo will arrive with no enemy cruiser attacking her, the number of DDs and cruisers in the third wave must be reduced to 2.,The Izumo should be replaced with something else more vulnerable since her deck was buffed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,701 [FORCE] Reinhard_of_Avercland Modder, Member 4,341 posts 19,424 battles Report post #2 Posted March 22, 2020 I think Izumo should be replaced with Nagato because most T6 ships will always struggle against a T9 ship. Alternatively Gneisenau might also fit to replace Izumo because some of the enemy ships are German (the only problem is Gneisenau's high speed). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,701 [FORCE] Reinhard_of_Avercland Modder, Member 4,341 posts 19,424 battles Report post #3 Posted March 22, 2020 (edited) And Izumo was acceptable because a player with Ranger or Ryujo could deal damage more consistently with the RTS (plus the trash tier AA on IJN BBs back then). Now CVs have been neutered, which means the surface ships will have to put more effort on the battle. Edited March 22, 2020 by Sir_Feather Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
398 [-ISO-] mr_glitchy_R Member 1,152 posts 7,775 battles Report post #4 Posted March 22, 2020 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Sir_Feather said: I think Izumo should be replaced with Nagato because most T6 ships will always struggle against a T9 ship. Alternatively Gneisenau might also fit to replace Izumo because some of the enemy ships are German (the only problem is Gneisenau's high speed). Nagato is a good option. HE spamming and setting some fires on that thing should be easier. Or why not just replace it with Ryujo or Shokaku with low level AI? Edited March 22, 2020 by mr_glitchy_R Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,085 [MRI] Thyaliad Member 4,455 posts 22,236 battles Report post #5 Posted March 22, 2020 (edited) The Izumo is easily dealt with if you have a DD on your team, or just about anybody with ship torpedoes and the guts to use them. Even BBs should have little issue by hitting its broadside at close range. Edited March 22, 2020 by Thyaliad Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
398 [-ISO-] mr_glitchy_R Member 1,152 posts 7,775 battles Report post #6 Posted March 22, 2020 39 minutes ago, Thyaliad said: The Izumo is easily dealt with if you have a DD on your team, or just about anybody with ship torpedoes and the guts to use them. Even BBs should have little issue by hitting its broadside at close range. But that's if they're competent or lucky enough to do that. Problem is most PvE players quality are dropping. PvE playerbase nowadays are not what it used to be. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,066 [TLS] dejiko_nyo Member 5,849 posts 24,614 battles Report post #7 Posted March 22, 2020 2 hours ago, Thyaliad said: The Izumo is easily dealt with if you have a DD on your team, or just about anybody with ship torpedoes and the guts to use them. Even BBs should have little issue by hitting its broadside at close range. The red team is not the problem. I don't have an issue with the izumo if I have to face it in dd/ca/bb/cv. The problem I do have is the team not dealing with things trying to distract me from my objective. The problem with the op is: 1 hour ago, mr_glitchy_R said: Problem is most PvE players quality are dropping. PvE playerbase nowadays are not what it used to be. THIS. Come join us on social wolves. At least when we div, we have a chance. The clear issue is that everyone (except the ones trying to save the op) hang too far back and in the most stupid positions where they cannot fire back. You are fighting not against the red team but something more insidious called THE CLOCK/TIMER. If you don't kill the waves fast enough, they pile up and eventually the team cannot handle them. Frequently I see teams trying to hit a target bow on and then one enemy boat slips though and the whole defensive line is broken. I am not asking people to go far out but at least weave around on the OUTSIDE of the base to position yourself to cause more damage. Reposition for future waves. Heal when you are down to half health. Many times I see a 99.99999% health ship go right back to the heal for WTF, removing dpm. Even when I play CV, I try to go as far out as I can so that my planes save time to travel to target. BTW. This iteration of snipers of newport is the easiest. Anyone who remembers the first iteration where there were 3 CVs and the waves did not follow a pattern, and Romeo appearing on the side FURTHEST from the last wave will attest that if you were dealt with back RNG for spawns, you were screwed. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
398 [-ISO-] mr_glitchy_R Member 1,152 posts 7,775 battles Report post #8 Posted March 22, 2020 11 minutes ago, dejiko_nyo said: The problem I do have is the team not dealing with things trying to distract me from my objective. EXACTLY! 14 minutes ago, dejiko_nyo said: Come join us on social wolves. At least when we div, we have a chance. Hmm. The last time I search with the keyword social wolves in the channel, it didn't show up. Maybe I just totally wrong. How and where can search and then join it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
639 [AN-DO] blauflamme22 Member 765 posts 11,864 battles Report post #9 Posted March 22, 2020 (edited) 10 hours ago, mr_glitchy_R said: Hmm. The last time I search with the keyword social wolves in the channel, it didn't show up. Maybe I just totally wrong. How and where can search and then join it? If you mean in game a friend of mine had the same issue the other day when searching so I just sent him an invite in game which worked. I'll add you in chat and if I see you on I'll send you an invite so you can find it Also, for anybody looking for the social wolves discord check out this post: Edited March 22, 2020 by blauflamme22 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,592 [151ST] S4pp3R Wiki Editor 4,526 posts 16,472 battles Report post #10 Posted March 23, 2020 (edited) Warning - some S4pp3R guy posts video links in Builds channel... (On Social Wolves discord). Also I'll be in there a fair bit over the coming weeks for Ops, if I ever get to work from home... ... ... Edited March 23, 2020 by S4pp3R Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,160 THAI_THIEF Member 5,863 posts 14,256 battles Report post #11 Posted March 23, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, S4pp3R said: Warning - some S4pp3R guy posts video links in Builds channel... (On Social Wolves discord). Also I'll be in there a fair bit over the coming weeks for Ops, if I ever get to work from home... ... ... 22 hours ago, Sir_Feather said: And Izumo was acceptable because a player with Ranger or Ryujo could deal damage more consistently with the RTS (plus the trash tier AA on IJN BBs back then). Now CVs have been neutered, which means the surface ships will have to put more effort on the battle. You break the rule Edited March 23, 2020 by THAI_THIEF Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,066 [TLS] dejiko_nyo Member 5,849 posts 24,614 battles Report post #12 Posted March 23, 2020 FYI, it is the bbs that should be out there tanking the damage and delivering crippling broadsides. It is very important to quickly eliminate the opfor and what better way than to deal insta-death with triple cits? Instead, I see them cowering at the back. It reminded me of this Fuso (was it a fuso, or normandie?) over the weekend that basically was 100% health right even as the perimeter was broken. Then it died from a double salvo of torpedoes from the Yorck. Instantly from 80% to 0%. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,160 THAI_THIEF Member 5,863 posts 14,256 battles Report post #13 Posted March 25, 2020 So I playing with COVID infectors Honestly I always see this coming 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,160 THAI_THIEF Member 5,863 posts 14,256 battles Report post #14 Posted March 25, 2020 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
