1,208 [LBAS] IJN_Katori Member 4,093 posts 21,626 battles Report post #1 Posted November 29, 2019 (edited) Spicy Brit CA Changes! (Fire Chance Buff ) ST, changes to Mainz, Gorizia and British heavy cruisers. German cruiser Mainz, tier VIII: - Main caliber turret traverse speed increased from 6.0 to 7.6 degrees/second. Mainz's turret traverse speed will be the same as Nurnberg's. Italian cruiser Gorizia, tier VII: - Main battery reload time was lowered from 16.5 to 15 s. The change will increase the cruiser's combat efficiency and will make playing it more comfortable. British heavy cruisers: Main battery reload time was increased: - Hawkins, tier V: from 13 to 14 s; - Devonshire, tier VI: from 12 to 14 s; - Surrey, tier VII: from 11 to 13 s; - Albemarle, tier VIII: from 12 to 14 s; - Drake, tier IX: from 14 to 16.5 s; - Goliath, tier X: from 17 to 19.5 s. Shell parameters were changed: - HE shells of 190 mm caliber: -- Maximum damage was increased from 2,650 to 3,050; -- Chance of causing fire was increased from 13% to 15%; - HE shells of 203 mm caliber (except London, tier VI): -- Maximum damage was increased from 2,850 to 3,300; -- Chance of causing fire was increased from 15% to 17% - HE shells of 234 mm caliber: -- Maximum damage was increased from 3,350 to 3,850; -- Chance of causing fire was increased from 21% to 24% -- Armor penetration was increased from 38 (1/6 of caliber) to 58 mm (1/4 of caliber); -- Ballistics were changed. Now the shell will need more time to travel the same distance. For example, instead of 5.2 seconds at a 10 km range, it will take 5.39 seconds. At a range of 15 km instead of 8.63 seconds it will take 9.2 seconds. - AP shells of 234 mm caliber: -- Armor penetration was improved, especially at close and medium ranges. It increased by 33% at 7 km and by 5% at 14 km. -- Ballistics were changed. Now the shell will need more time to travel the same distance. For example, instead of 5.2 seconds at a 10 km range, it will take 5.39 seconds. At a range of 15 km instead of 8.63 seconds it will take 9.2 seconds. The Repair Party consumable's parameters were changed: - For Hawkins, Devonshire, and Surrey, the restoration of citadel damage was increased from 10% to 50%; - For Albemarle, Drake, and Goliath, restoration of citadel damage was increased from 33% to 50%; - For Drake and Goliath, restoration of casemate (non-citadel) damage was increased from 50 to 60%. Though British cruisers dealt good damage to targets with light and medium armor, they weren't efficient enough against heavily armored targets. Thus we've increased the damage of their HE shells. At the same time, to lower the excessive efficiency against lightly armored targets, the reload time and ballistics were changed. Due to fighting at a relatively close distance, British cruisers are often focused by enemies and receive significant damage. The changes to Repair Party will improve the survivability of these ships in order to preserve the style of their gameplay. Please note that the information in the Development Blog is preliminary and subject to change. Edited November 29, 2019 by BIGCOREMKP0I Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,477 Paladinum Member 7,062 posts 11,684 battles Report post #2 Posted November 29, 2019 (edited) AWWWW SHIP ANOTHER RN LINE WITH GIMMICKED SHELLS WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT Edited November 29, 2019 by Paladinum 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
934 [WWS] Project45_Opytny Member 2,434 posts 13,592 battles Report post #3 Posted November 29, 2019 Holy ****, 234-mm HE shells under the 1/6 rule are already very powerful (pens USN BB weatherdecks by default and combined with IFHE can pen un to 50-mm), now their repsective values are 58-mm/75-mm (though now they do counter Soviet BBs). Another round of "supercharged HE pen" race? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,208 [LBAS] IJN_Katori Member 4,093 posts 21,626 battles Report post #4 Posted November 29, 2019 1 minute ago, Project45_Opytny said: Holy ****, 234-mm HE shells under the 1/6 rule are already very powerful (pens USN BB weatherdecks by default and combined with IFHE can pen un to 50-mm), now their repsective values are 58-mm/75-mm (though now they do counter Soviet BBs). Another round of "supercharged HE pen" race? BB HE shells like the Brit BBs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,063 [TLS] dejiko_nyo Member 5,846 posts 24,614 battles Report post #5 Posted November 29, 2019 And they are making the reload like hell to make it look as if pasta cruisers are not bad. Except HE fires >>>>>>>>>>>>> Stupid Ass Pig. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,208 [LBAS] IJN_Katori Member 4,093 posts 21,626 battles Report post #6 Posted November 29, 2019 1 minute ago, dejiko_nyo said: And they are making the reload like hell to make it look as if pasta cruisers are not bad. Except HE fires >>>>>>>>>>>>> Stupid Ass Pig. Better than Italian Imo, Hawkins until Surrey gets a permacamo soon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
762 [GS] Onlinegamer Video Contributor, Beta Tester 2,951 posts 15,181 battles Report post #7 Posted November 29, 2019 (edited) 1/4 HE pen yummy™ Edited November 29, 2019 by Onlinegamer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
934 [WWS] Project45_Opytny Member 2,434 posts 13,592 battles Report post #8 Posted November 29, 2019 Just now, BIGCOREMKP0I said: BB HE shells like the Brit BBs. Well, understandable... even the 234-mm gun turrents are modelled after the style of modern British battleships in the 1930s (the verticle turrent face) rather than the ones found on contemporary British cruisers. The projects themselves also originated from British equivalent of large cruiser concepts. However I still think the changes are grossly overdone and much too gimmicky. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,208 [LBAS] IJN_Katori Member 4,093 posts 21,626 battles Report post #9 Posted November 29, 2019 Just now, Project45_Opytny said: Well, understandable... even the 234-mm gun turrents are modelled after the style of modern British battleships in the 1930s (the verticle turrent face) rather than the ones found on contemporary British cruisers. The projects themselves also originated from British equivalent of large cruiser concepts. However I still think the changes are grossly overdone and much too gimmicky. "THE RIDE NEVER ENDS" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,477 Paladinum Member 7,062 posts 11,684 battles Report post #10 Posted November 29, 2019 Just now, Project45_Opytny said: However I still think the changes are grossly overdone and much too gimmicky. WG's vision of the Royal Navy: Royal Gimmick Navy. Not overly gimmick not British. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,063 [TLS] dejiko_nyo Member 5,846 posts 24,614 battles Report post #11 Posted November 29, 2019 AP shells that big should be able to one shot DDs to death. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,154 THAI_THIEF Member 5,848 posts 14,256 battles Report post #12 Posted November 29, 2019 More slow ship Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,387 [SMOKE] Mechfori Member 4,378 posts 24,383 battles Report post #13 Posted November 29, 2019 Ok so all those reasoning to buff the British CA .. then why the hell not applied those same reasoning to many of the old tech tree ships ( and some premiums ) and buff them too, they are in the same boat or even worse Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,668 [FORCE] Reinhard_of_Avercland Modder, Member 4,300 posts 18,933 battles Report post #14 Posted November 29, 2019 31 minutes ago, Paladinum said: WG's vision of the Royal Navy: Royal Gimmick Navy. Not overly gimmick not British. Still more balanced than the glorious Soviet Navy Minotaur vs Smolensk = A floating oil tanker with machine guns vs a floating molotov launcher with bullshido armor scheme Conqueror vs Kremlin = A ship held together by the monarchist propaganda that is secretly clueless at its own job vs a ship equipped with both the most advanced gun fire control system guided by Stalin's will & armor made by Stalinium that shrugs all shells from the capitalists & facists alike. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
834 [SALT] humusz Member 2,213 posts 10,571 battles Report post #15 Posted November 29, 2019 (edited) so, German CA HE 1/4 Pen. Aint so special now arent you KMS Unique whee..Gee-mick : Tanky, Best Secondary, Fastest Reload Torpedoes, Fastest Smoke CD, DD with Hydro, Immune to Citadel at Close range, Good AA, Super Hydro (still there), Best AP, the only BB with HE 1/4 Pen, the only CA with HE 1/4 Pen, BEST AP focused line, Fastest Shell Velocity, The only BB with torp, fast Turret turn. 🤣🤣 Edited November 29, 2019 by humusz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
94 [MALD] Navy_Sensou Member 132 posts 14,678 battles Report post #16 Posted November 29, 2019 58mm plus 30% from IFHE equals 75mm of penetration. And Smolensk has 70mm of citadel armor. HMMMM......... 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,335 [-CAT-] S0und_Theif Member 6,178 posts 22,066 battles Report post #17 Posted November 29, 2019 (edited) The Repair Party consumable's parameters were changed: - For Hawkins, Devonshire, and Surrey, the restoration of citadel damage was increased from 10% to 50%; - For Albemarle, Drake, and Goliath, restoration of citadel damage was increased from 33% to 50%; - For Drake and Goliath, restoration of casemate (non-citadel) damage was increased from 50 to 60%. So even if you are citadelled, it can be mostly repaired? O_O Edited November 29, 2019 by S0und_Theif Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,477 Paladinum Member 7,062 posts 11,684 battles Report post #18 Posted November 29, 2019 (edited) So WG finally realized that they should have put Nurnberg's turrets on the Mainz SINCE THE BEGINNING instead of Konigsberg's ones? That is, like, the Kriegsmarine's plan all along! That is what they should try SINCE THE BEGINNING. Gorizia should have HE and SAP. A premium should be different from her tech tree counterpart(s). No one will care if a Zara is without torpedoes. RN CAs... another line of obnoxious HE slingers like the BBs. 20 minutes ago, S0und_Theif said: So even if you are citadelled, it can be mostly repaired? O_O RN CAs = Mini RN BBs confirmed. 23 minutes ago, Navy_Sensou said: 58mm plus 30% from IFHE equals 75mm of penetration. And Smolensk has 70mm of citadel armor. Well that's one (more) reason why I should grind this line I guess. Edited November 29, 2019 by Paladinum 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,208 [LBAS] IJN_Katori Member 4,093 posts 21,626 battles Report post #19 Posted November 29, 2019 (edited) 15 hours ago, S0und_Theif said: The Repair Party consumable's parameters were changed: - For Hawkins, Devonshire, and Surrey, the restoration of citadel damage was increased from 10% to 50%; - For Albemarle, Drake, and Goliath, restoration of citadel damage was increased from 33% to 50%; - For Drake and Goliath, restoration of casemate (non-citadel) damage was increased from 50 to 60%. So even if you are citadelled, it can be mostly repaired? O_O RN CAs are literally like Pocket Battleships. Oh and yes @S0und_Theif, their recovery is much the same as Edinburgh/Lion/Monarch/Conqueror. Norfolk is also possible to appear either FXP or Armory, Suffolk either. Edited November 30, 2019 by BIGCOREMKP0I 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,208 [LBAS] IJN_Katori Member 4,093 posts 21,626 battles Report post #20 Posted November 30, 2019 On 11/29/2019 at 7:07 PM, Sir_Feather said: Still more balanced than the glorious Soviet Navy Minotaur vs Smolensk = A floating oil tanker with machine guns vs a floating molotov launcher with bullshido armor scheme Conqueror vs Kremlin = A ship held together by the monarchist propaganda that is secretly clueless at its own job vs a ship equipped with both the most advanced gun fire control system guided by Stalin's will & armor made by Stalinium that shrugs all shells from the capitalists & facists alike. @Sir_Feather Nah, Kremlin is most likely Gorbachev's Guided shells. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,335 [-CAT-] S0und_Theif Member 6,178 posts 22,066 battles Report post #21 Posted November 30, 2019 On 11/29/2019 at 7:58 PM, Paladinum said: RN CAs = Mini RN BBs confirmed. On 11/29/2019 at 10:34 PM, BIGCOREMKP0I said: RN CAs are literally like Pocket Battleships. Oh and yes @S0und_Theif, their recovery is much the same as Edinburgh/Lion/Monarch/Conqueror. Norfolk is also possible to appear either FXP or Armory, Suffolk either. Happy face = nice stats for a small package. Sad face = you know WG, they will do something in the last minute. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites