AIRCRAFT Carriers

[Phantom_Yamato]

REMOVE Carriers from the game or F**KING fix them so they dont f**king one shot a DD from full HP right at the start of the match

[Mistbreaker]

Holy cow! those languages!

[legionary2099]

1 shotting DD ? the problem is the DD.

Slowly killing the DD ? the problem is the CV.

OP just suck at the game. Git Gud or Git Out.

[Grimnar42]

2 minutes ago, legionary2099 said:

1 shotting DD ? the problem is the DD.

Slowly killing the DD ? the problem is the CV.

OP just suck at the game. Git Gud or Git Out.

Yeah that really helps.

Language aside I understand the problem. 

[Paladinum]

The most I've seen is a CV popping 1/2 HP of a DD only when the DD is lower tier than the CV and the DD over exposes himself.

Also only to IJN or US DDs because they have really small HP pool.

[Phantom_Yamato]

thats the thing im a IJN Gun boat DD player so that might explain why i hate the carriers but still they need to be hit with the nurf hammer

[legionary2099]

6 minutes ago, Phantom_Yamato said:

thats the thing im a IJN Gun boat DD player so that might explain why i hate the carriers but still they need to be hit with the nurf hammer

CV is the scissor while DD is the paper. CV hard counter DD. The thing about hard counters is you avoid them altogether until you can deal with them , no exception.

Instead of yoloing alone to do your normal function go where you can avoid the thing , which is next to a strong AA ship or a group of ship.
As the game progress and CV move onto to strike something else , you have all the time in the world to do something you want.

You can't stop a 100 mph car by standing in front of it, so why do it ? Get on a tank to do it.

[Thyaliad]

 

36 minutes ago, Phantom_Yamato said:

REMOVE Carriers from the game or FUCKING fix them so they dont fucking one shot a DD from full HP right at the start of the match

1 shotting from full hp is literally impossible unless you got detonated.

If you want people to take you seriously perhaps you should mind your language and not spread lies and misinformation.

[Paladinum]

8 minutes ago, Thyaliad said:

lies and misinformation.

More like exaggeration, and using it in an argument would usually bear the opposite result as intended.

[S0und_Theif]

37 minutes ago, Thyaliad said:

1 shotting from full hp is literally impossible unless you got detonated.

Full HP DD + Detonation = Impossible

75% HP DD + Detonation = Possible (May RNGesus have mercy on your ship)

Full HP DD + 9 to 15 SAP = Instant Delete / Devastating Strike (May RNGesus also have mercy on your ship)

 

@Phantom_Yamato

Mind the French / Languange. 👌.

[Thyaliad]

1 hour ago, S0und_Theif said:

Full HP DD + Detonation = Impossible 

75% HP DD + Detonation = Possible (May RNGesus have mercy on your ship)

Full HP DD + 9 to 15 SAP = Instant Delete / Devastating Strike (May RNGesus also have mercy on your ship)

 

@Phantom_Yamato

Mind the French / Languange. 👌.

It is possible to one shot a ship. I just did that today in my Yammy against a Wooster. One salvo with a couple of citadels and he went from 100% hp to dead.

For CVs though, it is impossible to one shot a ship without a detonation. CVs just don't have the raw alpha damage to do that. Even with a detonation it is extremely unlikely as you need to the CV needs to take your health down to below 75% AND cause a detonation, all in the same strike. It is basically RNG and no different from any other ship.

Therefore any claims of CVs 1 shotting ships from full HP is 100% nonsense.

1 hour ago, Paladinum said:

More like exaggeration, and using it in an argument would usually bear the opposite result as intended.

Indeed. It is a sign of intellectual dishonesty.

[LawrenceXVIII]

I thought this crap is over long time ago, oh gosh...

I really hate people who keeps bringing up the same CV Rant.

[Brunswickz]

3 hours ago, Phantom_Yamato said:

thats the thing im a IJN Gun boat DD player so that might explain why i hate the carriers but still they need to be hit with the nurf hammer

IJN Gun boat being one shot destroyed, you mean deto?

[S0und_Theif]

CV theme = Green Hornet

Submarine theme = Jaws

[THAI_THIEF]

If you put the flag detonate not exist for vocabulary 

 

[dieselhead]

10 hours ago, Thyaliad said:

If you want people to take you seriously perhaps you should mind your language and not spread lies and misinformation.

Not like a CV player has spread lies and misinformation have they? 

 

7 hours ago, LawrenceXVIII said:

I thought this crap is over long time ago, oh gosh...

I really hate people who keeps bringing up the same CV Rant.

Wonder why it keeps coming up? Hmmm

[lunsmann]

I one shotted a DD last night (can't recall what boat I was driving - I swapped around a bit yesterday), but the results screen showed 0 hits for 9900 damage caused. Must have been a proximity hit that caused a detonation - but the results screen said only that I killed it with my main battery. No idea, I just accept the good with the bad, like getting one shotted in a full health Konigsberg by a New Mexico that had not even been spotted on the map yet. NM has 12 guns, I was hit by 7 shells. 

[dejiko_nyo]

12 hours ago, legionary2099 said:

1 shotting DD ? the problem is the DD.

Slowly killing the DD ? the problem is the CV.

OP just suck at the game. Git Gud or Git Out.

 

12 hours ago, Thyaliad said:

1 shotting from full hp is literally impossible unless you got detonated.

If you want people to take you seriously perhaps you should mind your language and not spread lies and misinformation.

 

12 hours ago, Paladinum said:

More like exaggeration, and using it in an argument would usually bear the opposite result as intended.

Thank you, thank you and thank you. Your Coolkies are in the mail. Thank you for making my reply as short as possible. And as Law put it subtlety, we are tired of this non-objective ranting.

[dieselhead]

11 hours ago, Thyaliad said:

Indeed. It is a sign of intellectual dishonesty.

CV players 1 minute: "DD is fine, JuSTdoDgE"

CV players next minute:"why cant DD have Kremlin level of AA?". "I was just out making DD life miserable", "If i want to kill a DD then I will, nothing DD can do about it".

You mean that level of dishonesty?

Hypocrisy level 1000...............

[Puggsley]

14 hours ago, Paladinum said:

The most I've seen is a CV popping 1/2 HP of a DD only when the DD is lower tier than the CV and the DD over exposes himself.

Also only to IJN or US DDs because they have really small HP pool.

I had one the other day in the Shima, was 4.5km from a Des, and the CV nailed me with a detonation on his first attack run. I reckon I lasted under a minute. 

Cannot remember the last time I had one of those, I'm pretty sure a CV has never done that to me before.

Mostly CV does hardly any up to about 1/3 if you get it really wrong. No science basis to it but I'd say about 15 - 20% of your health each attack on average feels about right.   

 

[Sir_Feather]

14 hours ago, Phantom_Yamato said:

thats the thing im a IJN Gun boat DD player so that might explain why i hate the carriers but still they need to be hit with the nurf hammer

IJN gunboats have enough AA to deals the "panic effect" to the incoming squadrons which could mess their accuracy.

- Rockets usually deal 2k-6k per hit depending on how many of them that hit the DD.

- US Dive Bombers (except Saipan & Enterprise) deal even less since the nerf that prevents them from dropping the load at the extremely low altitude. The 2 exceptions have AP bombs instead of HE bombs.

- IJN Dive Bombers (except Kaga) cannot even do that because they have AP bombs which always overpen DDs, and some CLs. Kaga has HE bombs that work similarly to US Dive Bombers.

- Torpedo Bombers are essentially the worst weapon to use against DDs. You have to be a completely uneducated player to get hit by those if you are playing DD.

 

Therefore your statement of being one-shot in the first minutes is as true as the Harry Potter books.

 

PS:

There will be lots of rant threads about subs in future. Especially about getting citadel'ed by subs' torpedoes.

[dejiko_nyo]

4 minutes ago, Sir_Feather said:

There will be lots of rant threads about subs in future. Especially about getting citadel'ed by subs' torpedoes.

Let the fun ensue.

Shall I prepare our stocks of popcorn and other various goodies? Because the shipment by the terrible ship Transylvania and her equally terrible escorts and rescuers keeps getting intercepted.

[Puggsley]

22 minutes ago, Sir_Feather said:

Therefore your statement of being one-shot in the first minutes is as true as the Harry Potter books.

When you say one shot, do you mean being destroyed with 1 rocket, or killed from full health in the first attack run?

Cause the second one, while very very rare, certainly can happen.

[Sir_Feather]

1 minute ago, Puggsley said:

When you say one shot, do you mean being destroyed with 1 rocket, or killed from full health in the first attack run?

Cause the second one, while very very rare, certainly can happen.

That was his statement, not mine. Regardless of the actual situation, he had to put himself very badly to get killed so early. Hence my terribly written sarcastic statement

[Thyaliad]

3 hours ago, Puggsley said:

When you say one shot, do you mean being destroyed with 1 rocket, or killed from full health in the first attack run?

Cause the second one, while very very rare, certainly can happen.

The second one is impossible too unless it is via detonation, in which case the issue lies with the detonation mechanic, not with CVs.

Why the detonation mechanic still exists in WoWs I have no idea.