British Cruisers

[Dodge261]

Can someone please explain why British cruiser's are not equipped with high explosive shells it seems a bit ridiculous that the modified Leander HMAS Perth in the game has HE shells but the Leander itself doesn't and the only British cruiser that does possess HE shells is the T V ship Exeter.

[Paladinum]

Gimmick, gimmick, gimmick.

 

The 152 mm short-fused AP is actually the armament I hate the most in the game.

[Project45_Opytny]

Game balance and national feature/gimmick.

[LawrenceXVIII]

Its Gimmicks fam, not a feature.

Just like the overpowered Payfast 

[Paladinum]

Next time: players complain Pasta tech tree cruisers do not have HE shells.

Stay tuned!

[EULA_violator]

because the AP is better than HE at what it's supposed to do?

 

[LawrenceXVIII]

19 minutes ago, Paladinum said:

Next time: players complain Pasta tech tree cruisers do not have HE shells.

Stay tuned!

 

Let me absorb their NaCL so i can make Salted Caramel for my popcorn.

[Paladinum]

34 minutes ago, drakon233 said:

because the AP is better than HE at what it's supposed to do?

Starting fires?

[EULA_violator]

3 minutes ago, Paladinum said:

Starting fires?

you dont need fires with that kind of DPM

[Paladinum]

Just now, drakon233 said:

you dont need fires with that kind of DPM

I think you missed the sarcasm but I agree.

Minotaur annoys me more than Small-length and both need to be removed.

[Reinhard_of_Avercland]

British cruisers actually had HE shells during testing phase. But due to how effective HE spamming from inside the smoke could be, WG removed their HE shells except on Belfast because nerfing a premium ship is a bad stunt. This is the whole video about it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLK8TJ5fF0Y&t=349s

Yes we have Smolensk now. But Smolensk was released when balance does no longer exist.

[Thyaliad]

28 minutes ago, Sir_Feather said:

British cruisers actually had HE shells during testing phase. But due to how effective HE spamming from inside the smoke could be, WG removed their HE shells except on Belfast because nerfing a premium ship is a bad stunt. This is the whole video about it.

This. WG back then decided that smoke + CL levels of HE was just not fun to play against.

One wonders why they decided this was no longer the case with Smolensk.

[EULA_violator]

1 minute ago, Thyaliad said:

This. WG back then decided that smoke + CL levels of HE was just not fun to play against.

One wonders why they decided this was no longer the case with Smolensk.

130mm cant penn 32mm

[Watboy]

Cruisers firing HE from smoke is OP, which is why we have Smolensk.

BB's cannot have accurate guns at range for balance, which is why there is the Slava.

You cannot allow OP combinations because they are reserved for Russian paper ships.

I cannot wait for Russian CVs with radar equipped aircraft..

[IJN_Katori]

With the coming of the new British CAs,its clearly the rest of the CL Tree will be finally turn into ashes (Except Leander until Neptune that is.) with HE and AP shells, shame they dont have HE (Perth is an Exception) 

[Paladinum]

I've seen 2 people grouped Perth together with RN CLs and it bothers me.

Guys, please...

[Thyaliad]

54 minutes ago, drakon233 said:

130mm cant penn 32mm

Neither can 152mm without IFHE. And I am pretty sure the British CL line was designed and introduced way before the IFHE skill was, so I doubt IFHE was a factor in removing HE from the Brit CLs. 

Also did you watch the video Sir_Feather linked?

[EULA_violator]

1 minute ago, Thyaliad said:

Neither can 152mm without IFHE. And I am pretty sure the British CL line was designed and introduced way before the IFHE skill was, so I doubt IFHE was a factor in removing HE from the Brit CLs. 

Also did you watch the video Sir_Feather linked?

i know, i was a ST back then

[Reinhard_of_Avercland]

1 hour ago, drakon233 said:

130mm cant penn 32mm

But the same 130mm can pen 19mm (literally all BB superstructures). And this is essentially one thing why Smolensk is still OP. Add the fact that most high tier BBs have large superstructures, and who would even need IFHE?

[Thyaliad]

1 hour ago, drakon233 said:

i know, i was a ST back then

My point was what has changed in WG's mind.

Why do they consider 152mm HE + smoke not fun to be play against last time but 130mm with IFHE + smoke is considered fun now? They both have similar penetration values. 

How has the game changed such that a Smolensk is considered acceptable now but Brit CLs with HE aren't. Is it the smoke changes? It is certainly not the CV rework, that's for sure.

[EULA_violator]

18 minutes ago, Sir_Feather said:

But the same 130mm can pen 19mm (literally all BB superstructures). And this is essentially one thing why Smolensk is still OP. Add the fact that most high tier BBs have large superstructures, and who would even need IFHE?

are you jokeing?

you cant even penn CAs without IFHE

[dieselhead]

14 minutes ago, Thyaliad said:

My point was what has changed in WG's mind.

Why do they consider 152mm HE + smoke not fun to be play against last time but 130mm with IFHE + smoke is considered fun now? They both have similar penetration values. 

How has the game changed such that a Smolensk is considered acceptable now but Brit CLs with HE aren't. Is it the smoke changes? It is certainly not the CV rework, that's for sure.

Its Russian soooo, yeah, nuff said.

[humusz]

 

37 minutes ago, Sir_Feather said:

But the same 130mm can pen 19mm (literally all BB superstructures). And this is essentially one thing why Smolensk is still OP. Add the fact that most high tier BBs have large superstructures, and who would even need IFHE?

You could melt other cruiser with IFHE.

infact you can out dpm and duel almost every cruiser and come out winning. except versus Supercruiser that will overmatch every part of smolensk

 

hindy is like eaten alive by Russian smol boat. its AP cant pen when angled, and hindy HE dpm is shit. while smolensk deal 3-4k every 4 seconds - and hindy shave same amount of HP every 10s lol

[dejiko_nyo]

6 hours ago, Paladinum said:

Gimmick, gimmick, gimmick.

The 152 mm short-fused AP loaded on a pewpewpewpew minotaur is actually the armament I hate the most in the game.

Corrected. :P

And the simple answer why HE on smelly: WG hypocrisy. It is fine so long as it is on a soviet paper ship.

[Bex_o7]

3 minutes ago, dieselhead said:

Its Russian soooo, yeah, nuff said.

Wait a second there...

Are you implying there's some kind of.... bias?