713 [BLESS] Rina_Pon Member 1,312 posts 11,727 battles Report post #1 Posted September 28, 2019 Why would I possibly want to buy Yahagi? ... thinks ... Wait ... I could use my 19 point Zao captain on her. [clicks buy button] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
536 [SEARN] HobartAWD Member 1,063 posts 16,662 battles Report post #2 Posted September 28, 2019 Agano class is a ship I have wanted in the game since I first started playing wows. Hopefully WG will allow ships like Agano class which had depth charges, to actually use them against subs. I was thinking along the same lines you were, as being able to use my 19 point Zao captain was a nice bonus to sweeten the deal Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
713 [BLESS] Rina_Pon Member 1,312 posts 11,727 battles Report post #3 Posted September 28, 2019 Also, going by previous introductions, this is likely the first step on the way to a new IJN CL tech tree line. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
151 [-NZ-] Sharr_Dextera Member 391 posts 9,733 battles Report post #4 Posted September 28, 2019 (edited) I bought the Yahagi because: - I'm a fan of IJN - This is a ship that was once commanded by IJN capt. Tameichi Hara (beside the Amatsukaze and Shigure) as her last captain. I read his memoir as an introduction to the history of IJN in WW2 which I studied at the academy. Got 2-3 battles onboard of her so far, and still learning the best way to optimize her capabilities. Edited September 28, 2019 by Sharr_Dextera Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
151 [-NZ-] Sharr_Dextera Member 391 posts 9,733 battles Report post #5 Posted September 28, 2019 51 minutes ago, Rina_Pon said: Also, going by previous introductions, this is likely the first step on the way to a new IJN CL tech tree line. I hope they will intorduce the IJN CL tech tree line sooner or later. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
713 [BLESS] Rina_Pon Member 1,312 posts 11,727 battles Report post #6 Posted September 28, 2019 7 hours ago, Sharr_Dextera said: Got 2-3 battles onboard of her so far, and still learning the best way to optimize her capabilities. Will try later today. I imagine it's much like pre-nerf Emile. Stay back, throw out HE and torp down corridors. I'm rather surprised WG put 12 km torps on a T5 ship. I realize this range has less value at low tiers where the maps are so small anyway, but still... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,814 Paladinum Member 5,185 posts 9,129 battles Report post #7 Posted September 29, 2019 9 hours ago, Rina_Pon said: Also, going by previous introductions, this is likely the first step on the way to a new IJN CL tech tree line. 2022, after German and British battlecruiser/2nd BB lines 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
713 [BLESS] Rina_Pon Member 1,312 posts 11,727 battles Report post #8 Posted September 29, 2019 YAHAGI mini review: Imagine playing an Emerald, but without smoke. Sure, you have HE, and long range torps, but you have to spend so much time trying not to get shot at that it's really, really hard to do any damage. The guns are not good. They have range but not much else going for them. The torps are mixed. The two launchers are center line, allowing for 8 torp spreads, but the firing angle is miniscule. You have no armor. The only playstyle I can fathom here is as second line support, mostly as a long range torp boat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
424 [WWS] Project45_Opytny Member 1,505 posts 6,722 battles Report post #9 Posted September 29, 2019 2 hours ago, Rina_Pon said: YAHAGI mini review: Imagine playing an Emerald, but without smoke. Sure, you have HE, and long range torps, but you have to spend so much time trying not to get shot at that it's really, really hard to do any damage. The guns are not good. They have range but not much else going for them. The torps are mixed. The two launchers are center line, allowing for 8 torp spreads, but the firing angle is miniscule. You have no armor. The only playstyle I can fathom here is as second line support, mostly as a long range torp boat. So the boat actually performs like a Yubari that has a third turrent, even faster speed and vastly improved torpedoes? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
713 [BLESS] Rina_Pon Member 1,312 posts 11,727 battles Report post #10 Posted September 29, 2019 1 hour ago, Project45_Opytny said: So the boat actually performs like a Yubari that has a third turrent, even faster speed and vastly improved torpedoes? Ye-es, as far as such analogies go. The AA is definitely better than average. The torps are good. There are definitely three turrets. 6x152mm @9s is anemic, but I'm not building a ship-specific captain. Maybe with BFT/AFT the gunpower could be moved to "alright", but consider that Emile and Konigsberg have 9 guns each I don't see how it could ever be considered competitive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
96 MeglaGnome Member 213 posts 9,985 battles Report post #11 Posted September 29, 2019 Sounds like I'd put my 155mm Mogami captain in it, if I bought it. If I want to mess around with torpedo yoga I've already got a Yubari, so I'm not seeing a unique experience here worth my RL $$$'s. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
767 [SMOKE] Mechfori Member 2,243 posts 17,152 battles Report post #12 Posted September 29, 2019 4 hours ago, Project45_Opytny said: So the boat actually performs like a Yubari that has a third turrent, even faster speed and vastly improved torpedoes? which is to be expected, basically Yubari is THE experimental ship which IJN taken to put to use design elements onto their later ships from DD all the way to Super Yamato class BB Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
151 [-NZ-] Sharr_Dextera Member 391 posts 9,733 battles Report post #13 Posted September 29, 2019 So far IMO, the problem for me are the guns. Slow reload at 9 sec and only 6 of them, compare to other CLs in this tier (konigsberg, emile bertin, kirov) in overall performance. On positive side, It's got a nice torps (but slow reload and limited firing arc), and speed boost (gimmicky?). Against tier 6 or 7? Just brace yourself, they will see you as an easy prey. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,418 [-CAT-] S0und_Theif Member 2,809 posts 12,392 battles Report post #14 Posted September 29, 2019 (edited) On 9/29/2019 at 8:25 AM, Paladinum said: 2022, after German and British battlecruiser/2nd BB lines dis one please. 🤤 + US 2nd BB line with optional BC included (WOT style tech tree "experiment"). 🤤🤤🤤 to get WG attention, send offerings: US - Whisky JP - Sake RU - Vodka GB - Rum DE - Beer! Beer! (Oktoberfest (drink till you drop)) FR - Campaign IT - Red or White Wine EU - Brandy ? AS - Arrack / Lambanog ? ANZC - Maple Liquor and Coffee Liquor ? LAC - Tequila ZA - Amarula ? IN - Ramula or Feni ? 🍺🍺🍺 However, offering them drinks may or may not put them in a sane state. Just like a certain rubbish they implemented to "play low tier" ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Edited September 30, 2019 by S0und_Theif 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
713 [BLESS] Rina_Pon Member 1,312 posts 11,727 battles Report post #15 Posted September 30, 2019 This is one of my on-the-better-side Furutaka games, but still, most of my T4-5 matches end up on the high side of 40k. Same MM I would struggle to break 10k in Yahagi. Just to put some perspective on it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites