96 MeglaGnome Member 213 posts 9,985 battles Report post #1 Posted September 10, 2019 I'm thinking either a standard DD hunter gun build: PT LS, AR SE, BFT CE, RL or full pyromaniac PT LS SE, BFT, DE, SI CE Thoughts? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,363 [AUSNZ] Moggytwo Beta Tester 1,650 posts 14,859 battles Report post #2 Posted September 10, 2019 I haven't gone for either of those builds. Firstly I'd like a bit more range than the stock 12.3km, the shells are quite comfortable (same shell arcs as Daring's 113's and Lightning's 120's) and the guns have a superb fire chance, so I want the ability to burn BB's at range as needed. The next issue is that it's a ship built around it's consumables, so this is one of the rare occasions where I think SI is necessary. It's a gunboat with one of it's primary functions being hunting other DD's, so SE and CE are mandatory. Given all this I've gone for PT, AR/LS, SE/SI, AFT/CE. Shell flight times to the max range of 14.8km are 15.8s, which is pretty much the limit of usability (at stock range of 12.3km the flight times are 11.2s). It doesn't take BFT, so the reload is 1.6s rather than the max possible of 1.4s. I am going to play it for a while and see if three consumables each is adequate, in which case I'll probably drop SI for BFT, and that's about the only thing I'd leave to personal preference in this build. The rest of it seems pretty mandatory. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
132 [SPCTH] AxEyBoI Member 390 posts 14,158 battles Report post #3 Posted September 10, 2019 Only have a 10pt atm but ive been killing every DD or even 2 of them at T9-10 in duels, Benhams, Kitakazes, Yugumo, Tashkent, only ones that are tougher are Gearing and Daring. But not lost a duel so far and have managed to avoid all torps. PM, EM, BFT and CE 12.3 on the range, 6.4 concealment and 1.4 on reload. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,739 [-JK-] EULA_violator Member 6,887 posts 34,566 battles Report post #4 Posted September 10, 2019 44 minutes ago, AxEyBoI said: Only have a 10pt atm but ive been killing every DD or even 2 of them at T9-10 in duels, Benhams, Kitakazes, Yugumo, Tashkent, only ones that are tougher are Gearing and Daring. But not lost a duel so far and have managed to avoid all torps. PM, EM, BFT and CE 12.3 on the range, 6.4 concealment and 1.4 on reload. you have 95% the DPM of a darling and better hydro lul, just spec the same as it and you'll be fine Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
17 XxxGr1ffinxxX Member 108 posts 3,568 battles Report post #5 Posted September 12, 2019 (edited) Can someone please put range mod and AFT on the Friesland. your crippling karma will be worth it for science 17.5km? with range mod. or maybe loading mod? even better. with BFT, AR of course Edited September 12, 2019 by XxxGr1ffinxxX Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,363 [AUSNZ] Moggytwo Beta Tester 1,650 posts 14,859 battles Report post #6 Posted September 13, 2019 1 hour ago, XxxGr1ffinxxX said: Can someone please put range mod and AFT on the Friesland. your crippling karma will be worth it for science 17.5km? with range mod. or maybe loading mod? even better. with BFT, AR of course With AFT and range mod Friesland has a 17.2km range. This gives a 21.5s flight time at max range, which is basically unusable on anything but stationary targets. Take either AFT or range mod, but not both. Here's the flight time chart (courtesy https://wowsft.com/): 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
96 MeglaGnome Member 213 posts 9,985 battles Report post #7 Posted September 13, 2019 (edited) I ended up with only a 13 point captain as I was buying him up from 3 points using elite commander XP. I took the range mod in slot 6, and PT, Ls, SE +BFT, CE. I plan to get DE and SI over time. So far, it works well. Edited September 13, 2019 by MeglaGnome Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
17 XxxGr1ffinxxX Member 108 posts 3,568 battles Report post #8 Posted September 19, 2019 On 9/13/2019 at 11:45 AM, Moggytwo said: With AFT and range mod Friesland has a 17.2km range. This gives a 21.5s flight time at max range, which is basically unusable on anything but stationary targets. Take either AFT or range mod, but not both. xD well I see why you wouldn't but still it would be great to see. hmm whats the max range for khaba? THAT would take arson to a new level it'll make Wooster shell flight times look like a joke Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,529 Paladinum Member 7,109 posts 11,701 battles Report post #9 Posted September 19, 2019 42 minutes ago, XxxGr1ffinxxX said: hmm whats the max range for khaba Range mod is banned from Russian DDs, so... 43 minutes ago, XxxGr1ffinxxX said: it'll make Wooster shell flight times look like a joke I tried AFT + Range mod for Harugumo and Z-52 in PTS. Both go beyond 17 km. At that range all small guns' flight time is a joke no one finds funny. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,592 [151ST] S4pp3R Wiki Editor 4,526 posts 16,472 battles Report post #10 Posted September 19, 2019 So sick of 15+km DDs now... MN DDs and any gud gunbote with AFT+range... On plus side my Zao has had fun ninja-knifing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
17 XxxGr1ffinxxX Member 108 posts 3,568 battles Report post #11 Posted September 22, 2019 On 9/19/2019 at 12:05 PM, Paladinum said: Range mod is banned from Russian DDs, so... I tried AFT + Range mod for Harugumo and Z-52 in PTS. Both go beyond 17 km. At that range all small guns' flight time is a joke no one finds funny. Whaaaat? So you can put range mod on anything else, but Russian ships NO well ofc no one will like the 17km hellfire. Haha I laugh small guns big range funny Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
21 ILLBBACK2604 Member 115 posts Report post #12 Posted September 23, 2019 My set up on Friesland is gun range 12.3km, 1.4sec reload run a 19 point Capt PT, PM AR, LS SE, BFT, SI IFHE Don't waste 4 point on CE you are a gun boat better off going with IFHE to increase pen from 19mm to 25mm. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites