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Playing Izmail in Aegis is a lot of fun! Wait.......

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When Ishizuchi says enough is enough.

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Yep she literally send an additional reinforcements. Those were Amagi, Kongo and fuso. So i had to deal with 6 BBs at once. And yes I was ended up killed.

Luckily though, my team wins. 

FYI, this happened last year. It was such a strange anomaly in OP.

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If I am not mistaken, this happens if you are too slow to finish the 5 escorts. For the team incompetence, you get bigger issues and life just became more difficult.

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Just now, dejiko_nyo said:

If I am not mistaken, this happens if you are too slow to finish the 5 escorts. For the team incompetence, you get bigger issues and life just became more difficult.

Or maybe the destroyer in his team has gone too fast before the escorts were finished and triggered the three additional battleships.

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Same thing happened to me yesterday evening. After I scratching my head at the quick loss of our cruisers and destroyers, I found myself facing lots of battleships.

What a great team it was, made by the infallible Match Maker!

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4 hours ago, dejiko_nyo said:

If I am not mistaken, this happens if you are too slow to finish the 5 escorts. For the team incompetence, you get bigger issues and life just became more difficult.

Is that true? I didn't know that.

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38 minutes ago, mr_glitchy_R said:

Is that true? I didn't know that.

If I am not mistaken, when your timer hits 10:00 left, you are screwed and get the bigger fleet.

Basically: you get screwed over for screwing up a simple early task.

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24 minutes ago, dejiko_nyo said:

If I am not mistaken, when your timer hits 10:00 left, you are screwed and get the bigger fleet.

Basically: you get screwed over for screwing up a simple early task.

But his screenshot hasn't hit 10:00 yet?

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2 hours ago, Verytis said:

But his screenshot hasn't hit 10:00 yet?

11 then? What I do know is these ships basically appear to say: "MWAHAHAAH! You've taken too long! Now, prepare to die!"

Or I believe it is the convoy moves past the mid-point where they usually turn if you finish off the escorts; if the escorts are still there, they continue straight and then comes the big bad guns to teach you a lesson in sitting back and watching all your sniping shots fail miserably.

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43 minutes ago, dejiko_nyo said:

Or I believe it is the convoy moves past the mid-point where they usually turn if you finish off the escorts; if the escorts are still there, they continue straight and then comes the big bad guns to teach you a lesson in sitting back and watching all your sniping shots fail miserably.

I just had a game in Fuso and the same thing happened. But this time, the time shows 15 minutes. I mean 5 minutes in to destroy the first two reinforcements? Isn't it too fast? Also, if you look closely in my screenshots, my teams had destroyed the first two and even three including the convoy. So, I don't have any idea how this happens. Someone must really assure to explain behind all of these strange occasions in OPs.

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Its usually the Fuso that comes out of nowhere that gets me, can citadel him a few times & he doesnt die, but uses his lazer aiming guns to sink me.....  esp when im fighting a few ships at the same time while trying to avoid torpedoes....

 

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17 hours ago, dejiko_nyo said:

If I am not mistaken, this happens if you are too slow to finish the 5 escorts. For the team incompetence, you get bigger issues and life just became more difficult.

Yes I believe this to be true. However I had a game of Aegis yesterday where the transports were still in the C row, but the 3 extra BBs had spawned already.

Our Furious CV (who was one of those speshul individuals who provides many quite insulting and downright abusive opinions on other players instead of playing their own ship :Smile_facepalm:) had spotted the transports way way early though, when they were far outside the max range of our BBs. We couldn't deal any damage to the escorts for a few minutes due to the range and we were still mopping up the 2nd wave from the north west.

So it looks to me like it is a timer from the moment the transports get initially spotted, and you need to kill them in a certain time or you get the 3 extra BBs regardless of the position of the transports. 

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3 hours ago, Ordrazz said:

Its usually the Fuso that comes out of nowhere that gets me, can citadel him a few times & he doesnt die, but uses his lazer aiming guns to sink me.....  esp when im fighting a few ships at the same time while trying to avoid torpedoes....

 

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Funny how back when I was grinding Fuso the guns at max range were VERY spray and pray. You needed to get in a bit closer to make them reliably land multiple shells.

However the bot Fuso in Aegis is able to regularly one shot any hard manoeuvring cruiser out to max range...……….. :Smile_amazed: Seems legit.  

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Thing is though when sailing Izmail and heading north to engage the BBs can be like winning lotto. In any other BB I could have taken into Aegis I would not have had any confidence in surviving solo and close range against these ships. Good thing is more for me to shoot at uncontested, bad thing is more guns focusing me. 

Really thought this game was going to be a defeat with the rate team mates were dying, plus I was down to 5k hp at one point, but I was determined to do my best and fought hard but smart for a very hard earned 5 star win. Izmail really is a ridiculously strong BB for Aegis. This is my new damage record for Aegis. Beat my previous best by about 20k.

EDIT: Post edited as I watched the replay and this was actually a different battle, and not the game I mentioned earlier with the 3 extra spawning BBs. This 383k  damage was just a regular Aegis game with regular weekend players that ended up being something special

 

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33 minutes ago, HobartAWD said:

 

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Holy moley :cap_wander_2:

You carried your team that's for sure.

But yes, the Russian BBs are extremely strong in Ops. Combat tends to be at close ranges which really benefit them.

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21 hours ago, dejiko_nyo said:

If I am not mistaken, this happens if you are too slow to finish the 5 escorts. For the team incompetence, you get bigger issues and life just became more difficult.

I'm with the school of thought that it happens if you push too close to the top of the map before the other ships spawn. I reason it is to stop you parking between where the 2 bbs would appear so you could just torp them both the second they spawn.

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Just spotting the transport convoy on its own isn't enough as CV, I regularly go target the convoy after finishing the 1st wave. It looks like from our discussion there is a combination of factors that lead to the stronger wave coming up.

Since this only happens when you have a shit team, I say it is some of your team being incompetent that triggers it.

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Check these set of criteria:
1) Escorts on convoy still alive AND
2) Someone on the team has hit Row A or near the Kongo/Ishi spawn spot.

I believe from memory that the two or three times I got this harder scenario always had the team failing to finish the convoy escorts.

Just happened to me. We had one escort ship left to finish. Icarus entered Row A. The battleships all appeared. Theory proven.

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Also, WTF is this izmail bias. It is like every salvo must have one cit.

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2 hours ago, dejiko_nyo said:

Also, WTF is this izmail bias. It is like every salvo must have one cit.

Well why do you think I play it...….errmm,  I mean I have no idea what you are talking about :Smile_hiding:

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5 hours ago, dejiko_nyo said:

Just happened to me. We had one escort ship left to finish. Icarus entered Row A. The battleships all appeared. Theory proven.

But they don't have to send Amagi just to overmatch every T6 BBs. I mean Kongo and Fuso themselves are already overwhelming. 

Also why all of the transport ships in @ArmoredFrost are heading too far to the J row?

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1 hour ago, mr_glitchy_R said:

But they don't have to send Amagi just to overmatch every T6 BBs. I mean Kongo and Fuso themselves are already overwhelming. 

Also why all of the transport ships in @ArmoredFrost are heading too far to the J row?

They want to rub it in your face and completely humiliate the incompetence of your team? FYI, Icarus died rather instantaneously. I survived a little longer in my leander smoke but eventually got blipped by the Amagi,

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3 hours ago, mr_glitchy_R said:

But they don't have to send Amagi just to overmatch every T6 BBs. I mean Kongo and Fuso themselves are already overwhelming. 

Also why all of the transport ships in @ArmoredFrost are heading too far to the J row?

Uhh they probably think it's ok. I mean we always have Izumo on Newport for the last wave.

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4 minutes ago, Sir_Feather said:

Uhh they probably think it's ok. I mean we always have Izumo on Newport for the last wave.

Well yes but Izumo is meant to be there and a lot of players finds some good tactics to destroy her. But having to face an Amagi in Aegis doesn't happens often. So a lot of players are struggling to fight against her.

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The problem is that most people keep their distance at that point in the game and they appear bow on. There would be no issue if the firepower was closer except in cases like this, you usually don't have enough firepower nearby or you have been really mauled.

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22 hours ago, dejiko_nyo said:

Just spotting the transport convoy on its own isn't enough as CV, I regularly go target the convoy after finishing the 1st wave. It looks like from our discussion there is a combination of factors that lead to the stronger wave coming up.

Since this only happens when you have a shit team, I say it is some of your team being incompetent that triggers it.

PS:

Check these set of criteria:
1) Escorts on convoy still alive AND
2) Someone on the team has hit Row A or near the Kongo/Ishi spawn spot.

I believe from memory that the two or three times I got this harder scenario always had the team failing to finish the convoy escorts.

Just happened to me. We had one escort ship left to finish. Icarus entered Row A. The battleships all appeared. Theory proven.

I can confirm what you have said here to be true.

I just watched another replay of a different game where we had the 3 extra BBs spawn.

Very clearly a DD has run right up to the top map border to ambush the Ishi and Kongo when they spawn, but 2 escorts in convoy are still not dead yet, and the convoy has passed the C row. 

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