3,447 [REPOI] Drakon233 Member 6,724 posts 27,077 battles Report post #1 Posted July 31, 2019 (edited) where to even start... speed comparable to a HIV and agility comparable to a legend mod des moin armor profile comparable to a hindy optimal range for a T8 CL powerful AA for a T8 CL even faster ROF than a kutuzov, with better shells and capable of turning into a wooster if you turn on MBR usable self defense/kiting torpdos, which is more than can be said of the other T8 CLs good enough concealment to ambush anything that isnt a CL literally the only downside to this ship is a smaller than average health pool, and that isnt a concern when you have the armor and maneuverability to just juke shells\ So, how the hell did this thing even get past ST? it's even more P2W than belfast and in a more blatant way, at least belfast was better due to gimmicks, this ship is just plain better than ever other same tier ship and even then there are still gimmicks slapped on. the only thing that should be slapped should be the guy in the balancing team who thought that it would be a good idea to toss this ship out into the wild in this state. there is literally nothing at T8 that can out-gun out-trade or out-run this thing, even the so "OP" paytago and MK. the only ship that's more P2W is musashi, and even then it never was able to have be bought directly (buy crates to get coal) or should i change the title to just ultimate p2w? Edited July 31, 2019 by drakon233 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
227 LonerPrime Member 459 posts 4,576 battles Report post #2 Posted July 31, 2019 Colbert would like to say Bonjour as a tier X broken ship: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,784 Paladinum Member 5,165 posts 9,118 battles Report post #3 Posted July 31, 2019 WG are on the way to become Belorussian EA 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
554 [AN-DO] blauflamme22 Member 706 posts 10,391 battles Report post #4 Posted July 31, 2019 does this mean you'll be taking bayard into CBs? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,005 [TLS] dejiko_nyo Member 4,369 posts 20,673 battles Report post #5 Posted July 31, 2019 Captain skills please. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,447 [REPOI] Drakon233 Member 6,724 posts 27,077 battles Report post #6 Posted August 1, 2019 2 hours ago, blauflamme22 said: does this mean you'll be taking bayard into CBs? i would if i had one, i really would Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,447 [REPOI] Drakon233 Member 6,724 posts 27,077 battles Report post #7 Posted August 1, 2019 2 hours ago, dejiko_nyo said: Captain skills please. usual CL build IFA or PT depending on if you have situational awareness AR/EM DE/SI IFHE/CE Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,447 [REPOI] Drakon233 Member 6,724 posts 27,077 battles Report post #8 Posted August 1, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, LonerPrime said: Colbert would like to say Bonjour as a tier X broken ship: no, that's EU where the playerbase are as potato as they come. you try that same crap he pulled on asia and some random hurricane BB will nail you for half your health every 2nd salvo Edited August 1, 2019 by drakon233 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
206 [LGND] Gesterbein Member 543 posts 13,019 battles Report post #9 Posted August 1, 2019 Bayard gun penetration without ifhe already broken 152 mm can penetration 29 mm armor..... thats insane if combining with ifhe she got 38 mm pen+ demolition expert shes will burn everything -_- Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,421 [FORCE] Reinhard_of_Avercland Modder 2,679 posts 12,931 battles Report post #10 Posted August 1, 2019 6 hours ago, drakon233 said: the only ship that's more P2W is musashi, and even then it never was able to have be bought directly (buy crates to get coal) Musashi has her downsides though. Wonky dispersion & terrible AA make up for the overmatch gimmick she has. Bayard is akin to Okhotnik at T5 which is one of the unholy low tier trinity (the other 2 are GC and Nikolai) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
732 [SALT] humusz Member 2,092 posts 10,571 battles Report post #11 Posted August 1, 2019 It also can pen 37mm if i remember Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,256 [MRI] Thyaliad Member 3,684 posts 15,991 battles Report post #12 Posted August 1, 2019 13 hours ago, drakon233 said: the only ship that's more P2W is musashi, and even then it never was able to have be bought directly (buy crates to get coal) At least Musashi has crappy AA so she is countered by... oh wait. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,005 [TLS] dejiko_nyo Member 4,369 posts 20,673 battles Report post #13 Posted August 1, 2019 6 minutes ago, Thyaliad said: At least Musashi has crappy AA so she is countered by... oh wait. I thought that the counter was nerfed to the ground/sea literally? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
424 [WWS] Project45_Opytny Member 1,504 posts 6,696 battles Report post #14 Posted August 1, 2019 12 minutes ago, humusz said: It also can pen 37mm if i remember It seems that it would round up to 38-mm with IFHE, enough to wreck the weather deck of USN battleships, the only "conventional" CL besides the Soviet 180-mm rifles (Molotov and Dmitri Donskoi, Kirov is capable of doing that but would meet Colorado at most even if she is uptiered unless in a fail division) that are able to cross that threshold. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
64 [ATLAS] Vio_Strygun [ATLAS] Beta Tester 510 posts 13,164 battles Report post #15 Posted August 3, 2019 ???? Why Bayard allowed to pen 29mm now? They could have change it after HE rework hits, do they have to put it in now and create huge advantages over other CL? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
732 [SALT] humusz Member 2,092 posts 10,571 battles Report post #16 Posted August 3, 2019 (edited) On 8/1/2019 at 5:50 PM, Project45_Opytny said: It seems that it would round up to 38-mm with IFHE, enough to wreck the weather deck of USN battleships, the only "conventional" CL besides the Soviet 180-mm rifles (Molotov and Dmitri Donskoi, Kirov is capable of doing that but would meet Colorado at most even if she is uptiered unless in a fail division) that are able to cross that threshold. ah 38mm. some CC said that the the current Pen was based on upcomming IFHE rework. but if that true, WG sure have some screw loose for unleashing that early Edited August 3, 2019 by humusz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites