bayard, the penultimate PTW

[Drakon233]

where to even start...

speed comparable to a HIV and agility comparable to a legend mod des moin

armor profile comparable to a hindy

optimal range for a T8 CL

powerful AA for a T8 CL

even faster ROF than a kutuzov, with better shells and capable of turning into a wooster if you turn on MBR

usable self defense/kiting torpdos, which is more than can be said of the other T8 CLs

good enough concealment to ambush anything that isnt a CL

literally the only downside to this ship is a smaller than average health pool, and that isnt a concern when you have the armor and maneuverability to just juke shells\

 

So, how the hell did this thing even get past ST? it's even more P2W than belfast and in a more blatant way, at least belfast was better due to gimmicks, this ship is just plain better than ever other same tier ship and even then there are still gimmicks slapped on. the only thing that should be slapped should be the guy in the balancing team who thought that it would be a good idea to toss this ship out into the wild in this state. there is literally nothing at T8 that can out-gun out-trade or out-run this thing, even the so "OP" paytago and MK.

the only ship that's more P2W is musashi, and even then it never was able to have be bought directly (buy crates to get coal) 

or should i change the title to just ultimate p2w?

 

[LonerPrime]

Colbert would like to say Bonjour as a tier X broken ship:

 

[Paladinum]

WG are on the way to become Belorussian EA

[blauflamme22]

does this mean you'll be taking bayard into CBs?

[dejiko_nyo]

Captain skills please.

[Drakon233]

2 hours ago, blauflamme22 said:

does this mean you'll be taking bayard into CBs?

i would if i had one, i really would

[Drakon233]

2 hours ago, dejiko_nyo said:

Captain skills please.

usual CL build

 

IFA or PT depending on if you have situational awareness

AR/EM

DE/SI

IFHE/CE

[Drakon233]

4 hours ago, LonerPrime said:

Colbert would like to say Bonjour as a tier X broken ship:

no, that's EU where the playerbase are as potato as they come. you try that same crap he pulled on asia and some random hurricane BB will nail you for half your health every 2nd salvo

[Gesterbein]

Bayard gun penetration without ifhe already broken 152 mm can penetration 29 mm armor.....
thats insane if combining with ifhe she got 38 mm pen+ demolition expert shes will burn everything -_-

[Reinhard_of_Avercland]

6 hours ago, drakon233 said:

the only ship that's more P2W is musashi, and even then it never was able to have be bought directly (buy crates to get coal) 

Musashi has her downsides though. Wonky dispersion & terrible AA make up for the overmatch gimmick she has.

Bayard is akin to Okhotnik at T5 which is one of the unholy low tier trinity (the other 2 are GC and Nikolai)

[humusz]

It also can pen 37mm if i remember

[Thyaliad]

13 hours ago, drakon233 said:

the only ship that's more P2W is musashi, and even then it never was able to have be bought directly (buy crates to get coal) 

At least Musashi has crappy AA so she is countered by... oh wait.

[dejiko_nyo]

6 minutes ago, Thyaliad said:

At least Musashi has crappy AA so she is countered by... oh wait.

I thought that the counter was nerfed to the ground/sea literally?

[Project45_Opytny]

12 minutes ago, humusz said:

It also can pen 37mm if i remember

It seems that it would round up to 38-mm with IFHE, enough to wreck the weather deck of USN battleships, the only "conventional" CL besides the Soviet 180-mm rifles (Molotov and Dmitri Donskoi, Kirov is capable of doing that but would meet Colorado at most even if she is uptiered unless in a fail division) that are able to cross that threshold.

[Vio_Strygun]

????

Why Bayard allowed to pen 29mm now? 

They could have change it after HE rework hits, do they have to put it in now and create huge advantages over other CL?

[humusz]

On 8/1/2019 at 5:50 PM, Project45_Opytny said:

It seems that it would round up to 38-mm with IFHE, enough to wreck the weather deck of USN battleships, the only "conventional" CL besides the Soviet 180-mm rifles (Molotov and Dmitri Donskoi, Kirov is capable of doing that but would meet Colorado at most even if she is uptiered unless in a fail division) that are able to cross that threshold.

ah 38mm.

some CC said that the the current Pen was based on upcomming IFHE rework. but if that true, WG sure have some screw loose for unleashing that early