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Pan Europe Destroyer Tech Tree Suggestion

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Hi Wargameing Dev team,

I would like to suggest a complete Pan-Europe Destroyer line. With the future release of the Friseland (mmmm..... fries......) and combining Blyskawica to Pan-Europe faction, World of Warships will now have 11 factions to choose from. 7 Nations and 4 Group of Nations.


T1 Afonso de Albuquerque (PT)

Armament:
4 - 120 mm guns (4 x 1)
2 - 76 mm guns (2 x 1)
4 - 40 mm AA guns (4 x 1)

Note: T1 Sloop / Aviso. Considered as a T1 cruiser in the game.


T2 Aetos (GR)

Armament:
4 - 4 in (102 mm)/50 guns (4 x 1)
4 - 21 in (533 mm) torpedo tubes (4 x 1)

Note: Originally built for the Argentines but later sold to the Greeks


T3 Alsedo (EE)

Armament:
4 - 4 in (102 mm)/60  guns (4 x 1)
1 - 2 pdr (40 mm) pom-pom Mk. II (1 x 1)
2 - 0.30 in (7.62 mm) MG (2 x 1)
9 - 18 in (450 mm) torpedo tubes (3 x 3)

Note: Originally Avtroil (Russian Orfey Class), Captured by Britain 1918, gave it to Estonia, then Sold to Peru 1933 as Almirante Villiar (See Pan America Destroyer Tech Tree Suggestion)


T4 Lennuk (EE)

Armament:
5 - 4 in (102 mm)/60 guns (5 x 1)
1 - 2.5 in (63.3 mm) Model 1916 (1 x 1)
3 - 0.30 in (7.62 mm) MG (3 x 1)
9 - 18 in (457 mm) torpedo tubes (3 x 3)

Note: Originally Miklucho Maklai (Russian Izyaslav Class), Captured by Britain 1918, gave it to Estonia, then Sold to Peru 1933 as Alimarnte Guise (See Pan America Destroyer Tech Tree Suggestion)


T5 Alcala Galiano (ES)

Armament:
5 - 4.7 in (120 mm)/45 guns (5 x 1)
1 - 3 in (76 mm) AA guns (1 x 1)
6 - 21 in (533 mm) torpedo tubes (2 x 3)

Note: Also a possible T5 Pan America Destroyer (Juan de Garay [AR]) See Pan America Destroyer Tech Tree Suggestion

or

T5 Douro (PT)

Armament:
4 - 4.7 in (119 mm)/45 guns (4 x 1)
2 - 2 pdr (40 mm) AA guns (2 x 1)
8 - 21 in (533 mm) torpedo tubes (2 x 4)

Note: Also a possible T5 Pan America Destroyer (Antioquia [CO]) See Pan America Destroyer Tech Tree Suggestion


T6 Regele Ferdinand (RO)

Armament:
5 - 4.7 in (120 mm) guns
1 - 3 in (76 mm) AA gun
2 - 1.6 in (40 mm) AA guns
6 - 21 in (533 mm) torpedo tubes (3 x 3)

Note: None


T7 Grom (PL)

Armament:
7 - 4.7 in (120 mm) (3 × 2, 1 × 1)
4 - 1.6 in (40 mm) AA (2 × 2)
8 - 0.52 in (13.2 mm) MG (4 × 2)
6 - 21 in (533 mm) torpedo tubes (2 × 3)

Note: Blyskawica sister and Lead of her Class


From T8 to T10,
Netherlands and Sweden were capable of building ships after WW2.
Spain went to civil war and is in financial ruin but still managed to build their own ship with US 5 in (127 mm) as optional armament as well as US sold Spain some of their Fletcher, A.M. Summer, and Gearing Class surplus.
Greece dont have the finance to build their own ships, hence bought American surplus Fletchers, A.M. Summers, and Gearings.
Portugal did not re-arm their navy after WW2.
Estonia was absorbed by the Soviet Union.
Poland and Roamnia is under the Soviet block, hance ships are protected by Soviet Union Navy.


Sweden Branch (With Torpedo)
T8 Oland (SE)

Armament:
4 - 4.7 in (120 mm)/45 cal Bofors M/44 (2 x 2)
7 - 1.6 in (40 mm)/56 cal Bofors M/36 (2 x 2 and 3 x 1)
8 - 0.79 in (20 mm)/60 cal Bofors M/40 (2 x 4)
6 - 21 in (533 mm) torpedo tube (3 x 2)

Note: Due to their support nature, Pan Europe T8 to T10 ships will have fewer guns but have insane rate of fire. Faster than Gearing class.


T9 Halland (SE)

Armament:
4 - 4.7 in (120 mm) Bofors guns m/50 (2 × 2)
2 - 2.2 in (57 mm) Bofors guns m/50 (1 × 2)
6 - 1.6 in (40 mm) Bofors AA guns m/48 (6 × 1)
8 - 21.0 in (533 mm) torpedo tubes (1 × 5 and 1 × 3)
"Anti Submarine Mortar"

Note: Due to their support nature, Pan Europe T8 to T10 ships will have fewer guns but have insane rate of fire. Faster than Gearing class.


T10 Hälsingland (SE)

Armament:
4 - 4.7 in (120 mm) Bofors guns m/44 (2×2)
7 - 1.6 in (40 mm) Bofors AA guns m/48 (7×1)
6 - 21.0 in (533 mm) torpedo tubes (1 x 6)
"Anti Submarine Mortar"

Note: Due to their support nature, Pan Europe T8 to T10 ships will have fewer guns but have insane rate of fire. Faster than Gearing class.

 

Netherlands Branch (Without Torpedo)
T8 Gerard Callenburgh

Armament:
5 - 4.7 in (120 mm) guns (2 × 2 and 1 × 1)
4 - 1.6 in (40 mm) Bofors guns (2 x 2)
4 - 0.79 in (20 mm) Oerlikon guns (2 x 2)

Note: Originally armed with torpedoes, would be wise to remove them as to teach players on their support role and AA specialty like the Friseland.
Note: Due to their support nature, Pan Europe T8 to T10 ships will have fewer guns but have insane rate of fire. Faster than Gearing class.


T9 Holland (NL)

Armament:
4 - 4.7 in (120 mm) Bofors guns (2×2)
1 - 1.6 in (40 mm) Bofors AA gun (1 x 1) More can be added
"Anti Submarine Mortars"

Note: Due to their support nature, Pan Europe T8 to T10 ships will have fewer guns but have insane rate of fire. Faster than Gearing class.


T10 Groningen (NL)

Armament:
4 - 4.7 in (120 mm) Bofors guns (2 × 2)
6 - 1.6 in (40 mm) Bofors AA guns (6 × 1)
"Anti Submarine Mortars"

Note: Due to their support nature, Pan Europe T8 to T10 ships will have fewer guns but have insane rate of fire. Faster than Gearing class.
Note: Friseland Sister ship

 

Spain Branch (No Torpedo at T9 and T10)
T8 Audaz (ES)

Armament: (Original)
5 - 4.1 in (105 mm)/45 DP guns (5 x 1)
Too small for T8

Armament: (WG Modified)
Initial:
5 - 4.7 in (120mm)/50 guns (5 x 1)
Upgradeable to:
5 - 5 in (127 mm)/38 guns (5 x 1) US Fletcher Surplus

4 - 1.5 in (37 mm) AA guns (4 x 1)
8 - 0.79 in(20 mm) AA guns (4 x 2)
6 - 21 in (533 mm) torpedo tubes (3 x 2)


Note: Due to their support nature, Pan Europe T8 to T10 ships will have fewer guns but have insane rate of fire. Faster than Gearing class.
Note: Torpedo tubes were removed in later years.


T9 Oquendo (ES)

Armament: (Hull A)
Initial:
4 - 4.7 in (120mm)/50 guns (2 x 2)
Upgradeable to:
4 - 5 in (127 mm)/38 guns (2 x 2) US Gearing Surplus

6 - 1.6 in (40mm)/Bofors 40 guns (3 x 2)

Armament: (Hull B)
Initial:
6 - 4.7 in (120mm)/50 guns (2 x 2)
Upgradeable to:
6 - 5 in (127 mm)/38 guns (2 x 2)

6 - 1.6 in (40mm)/Bofors 40 guns (3 x 2)

Note: Due to their support nature, Pan Europe T8 to T10 ships will have fewer guns but have insane rate of fire. Faster than Gearing class.
Note: Spanish built destroyer. Completed 1963.
Note: Torpedo tubes were removed in later years.


T10 Roger de Lauria (ES)

Armament:
Initial:
6 - 4.7 in (120mm)/50 guns (2 x 2)
Upgradeable to:
6 - 5 in (127 mm)/38 guns (2 x 2) US Gearing Surplus

6 - 1.6 in (40mm)/Bofors 40 guns (3 x 2)

Note: Due to their support nature, Pan Europe T8 to T10 ships will have fewer guns but have insane rate of fire. Faster than Gearing class.
Note: Spanish built destroyer. Completed 1969.
Note: She is an improved and enlarged version of Oquendo
Note: Torpedo tubes were removed in later years.

 

US Surplus branch aquired by Spain and Greece
T8 Niki (GR)
Originally USS Eberle "Gleaves Class (US)"

Armament:
4 - 5 in (127 mm)/38 DP guns (4 x 1)
4 - 1.6 in (40 mm) Bofors guns (2 × 2)
7 - 0.97 in (20 mm) Oerlikon guns (7 x 1)
5 - 21 in (533 mm) torpedo tubes (1 × 5)


T9 Lepanto (ES)
Originally USS Capps "Fletcher Class (US)"

or

T9 Thyella (GR)
Originally USS Bradford "Fletcher Class (US)"

Armament:
5 - 5 in (127 mm)/38 guns (5 x 1)
10 - 1.6 in (40 mm) Bofors guns (5 x 2)
7 to 12 - 0.79 in (20 mm) Oerlikon guns (7 x 1 or 6 x 2)
10 - 21 in (533 mm) torpedo tubes (2 × 5)

 

T10 Miaoulis (GR)
Originallt USS Ingraham "Allan M Summer Class" (US)

Armament:
6 - 5 in (130 mm)/38 guns (3 x 2) [4 sec reload]
12 - 1.6 in (40 mm) Bofors guns (2 x 4 and 2 x 2)
10 - 0.79 in (20 mm) Oerlikon guns (10 x 1)
10 - 21 in (533 mm) torpedo tubes (2 x 5)

or

T10 Langara (ES)
Originally USS Leary "Gearing Class (US)"

Armament:
6 - 5 in (127 mm)/38 guns (3 x 2) [3 sec reload]
12 - 1.6 in (40 mm) Bofors guns (2 x 4 and 2 x 2)
10 - 0.79 in (20 mm) Oerlikon guns (10 x 1)
10 - 21 in (533 mm) torpedo tubes (2 x 5) 

 

I know some of the suggested ships may not make it as WG will put other ships that were not available in the books or internet, but I am sure they are working on to complete the Pan-Europe tech tree.


Nation Legend:
PL = Poland
PT = Portugal
ES = Spain / Espania
NL = Netherlands
GR = Greece
RO = Romania
EE = Estonia
SE = Sweden
AT = Austria (Austro-Hungary)

 

Edited by S0und_Theif
Adding Spanish Destroyers as well as Gearing, Fletcher A.M. Summers, and Gearing aquired by Spain and Greece

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Adding incomplete set of light and heavy cruisers for Pan-Europe.
Its the best I can dig up with what I have. Maybe WG have blue prints for T8 to T10 that the public do not know.


T2 Reina Regente (ES)

Armament:
10 - 5.5 in (140 mm) guns (10 x 1)
12 - 6 pdr (57 mm) guns (12 x 1)
2 - 1 pdr (37 mm) guns (2 x 1)
8 - MG (8 x 1)


T3 Java (NL)

Armament:
10 - 5.9 in (150 mm) guns (10 x 1)
8 - 0.50 in (12.7 mm) MG (8 x 1)


T4 Navarra (ES)

Armament:
9 - 6 in (152 mm) guns (9 x 1)
4 - 3 pdr (47mm) guns (4 x 1)
4 - 21 in (533 mm) torpedo tubes (2 x 2)


T5 Gotland (SE)

Armament:
6 - 6 in (152 mm) guns (2 x 2 and 2 x 1)
4 - 3 in (75 mm) guns (4 x 1)
4 - 0.98 in (25 mm) AA guns (4 x 1)
8 - 1.6 in (40 mm) AA guns (4 x 2)
6 - 21 in (533 mm) torpedo tubes (2 x 3)


T6 Almirante Cervera (ES)

Armament:
8 - 6 in (152 mm) guns (3 x 2 and 2 x 1)
4 - 4 in (102 mm) guns (4 x 1)
3 - 3 pdr (47 mm) guns (3 x 1)
12 - 21 in (533 mm) torpedoes tubes (4 x 3)


Netherlands Branch (No Torpedo Light Cruiser)
T7 De Ruyter (NL)

Armament:
7 - 5.9 in (150 mm) guns (3 x 2 and 1 x 1)
10 - 1.6 in (40 mm) Bofors AA guns (5 x 2)
8 - 0.5 in (12.7 mm) Browning (8 x 1)


T8 De Zeven Provinciën (NL)

Armament:
8 - 6 in (152 mm) guns (4 x 2)
8 - 2.2 in (57 mm) AA guns (4 x 2)
8 - 1.6 in (40 mm) AA guns (4 x 2)


T9 ????

Armament:
????

Note: No Data. Need Input


T10 ????

Armament:
????

Note: No Data. Need Input

 

Sweden Branch (With Torpedo Light Cruiser)
T7 Gota Lejon (SE)

Armament:
7 - 6 in (152 mm) guns (3 x 2 and 1 x 1)
4 - 2.2 in (57 mm) Bofors guns (4 x 1)
11 - 1.6 in (40 mm) Bofors guns (1 x 4 and 3 x 2 and 1 x 1)
6 - torpedo tubes (2 x 3)


T8 ????

Armament:
????

Note: No Data. Need Input


T9 ????

Armament:
????

Note: No Data. Need Input


T10 ????

Armament:
????

Note: No Data. Need Input

 

Spain Branch (Heavy Cruiser)
T7 Canarias (ES)

Armament:
8 - 8 in (203 mm) guns (4 x 2)
8 - 4.7 in (119 mm) guns (4 x 2)
12 - 1.6 in (40 mm) AA guns (6 x 2)
3 - 0.79 in (20 mm) AA guns (3 x 1)
12 - 21 in (533 mm) torpedo tubes (4 x 3)

Note: Based on British Heavy Cruiser County Class


T8 ????

Armament:
????

Note: No Data. Need Input


T9 ????

Armament:
????

Note: No Data. Need Input


T10 ????

Armament:
????

Note: No Data. Need Input

 

Nation Legend:
PL = Poland
PT = Portugal
ES = Spain / Espania
NL = Netherlands
GR = Greece
RO = Romania
EE = Estonia
SE = Sweden
AT = Austria (Austro-Hungary)

Edited by S0und_Theif
Adding Spanish Heavy Cruiser Branch

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Adding incomplete set of battleships for Pan-Europe.
Its the best I can dig up with what I have.

NOTE: T8 to T10 are pure speculation only.


T3 Espana (ES)

Armament:
8 - 12 in (305 mm)/50 guns (4 x 2)
20 - 4 in (102 mm) guns (20 x 1)
4 - 3 pdr (47 mm) guns (4 x 1)
2 - 0.3 in (7.62mm) MG (2 x 1)


T4 Tegetthoff (AT)

Armament:
12 - 12 in (305 mm) guns (4 x 3)
12 - 5.9 in (150 mm) guns (12 x 1)
20 - 2.6 in (66 mm) guns (20 x 1)

Note: Viribus Unitis sister


T5 Ersatz Monarch (AT)

Armament:
10 - 14 in (355 mm) guns (2 x 3 and 2 x 2)
14 - 5.9 in (150 mm) guns (14 x 1)
20 - 3.5 in (90 mm) guns (20 x 1)
2 - 1.9 in (47 mm) guns (2 x 1)

Note: Tegettoff's successor. Never built as Austro-Hungarian empire fell and lost WW1


Spain Branch
T6 Reina Victoria Eugenia (ES)

Armament:
Initial:
8 - 13.5 in (343 mm) guns (4 x 2)
Upgrade to:
8 - 15 in (380 mm) guns (4 x 2)

20 - 6 in (152 mm) guns (20 x 1)
10 - 2 pdr (40 mm) guns (10 x 1)

Note: Resembles QE in many ways as Spain was impressed with the success of QE class
Note: WG did not stop giving P.E. Friedrich her theoretical upgrade at T6, this is no exception.

T7 ????

Armament:
????

Note: No Data. Need Input.
Note: Probably a preliminary Littorio with 9 - 12.6 in (320 mm) guns and later upgrade to 6 - 15 in (380 mm) guns. See Italian Tech Tree Suggestion (Incomplete) for full details.


T8 Spanish "Littorio"

Armament:
9 - 12.6 in (320 mm) guns (3 x 3)
Upgrade to:
9 - 15 in (380 mm) guns (3 x 3)

12 - 6 in (152 mm) guns (4 x 3)
12 - 3.5 in (90 mm) guns (12 x 1)
20 - 1.5 in (37 mm) guns (10 x 2)
32 - 0.79 in (20 mm) Breda AA guns (16 x 2)

Note: Spain was looking around for a new battleship, they were interested with the Littorio and would have purchased her if WW2 did not start too early.


T9 Spanish "Isonzo (UP 41)"

Armament:
9 - 16 in (406 mm) guns (3 x 3)
12 - 6 in (152 mm) guns (4 x 3)
12 - 3.5 in (90 mm) guns (12 x 1)
20 - 1.5 in (37 mm) guns (10 x 2)
32 - 0.79 in (20 mm) Breda AA guns (16 x 2)

Note: With the success of the Littorio class, Spain further their ship building alliance with Italy and procure their own UP 41 if WW2 did not start too early.
Note: Stretching the limits of Spanish and Italian ship building alliance if WW2 did not start too early.


T10 ????

Armament:
????

Note: No Data. Need Input


Netherlands Branch
T6 1913 Battleship Proposal (NL)

Armament:
Initial:
8 - 13 in (340 mm) guns (4 × 2)
Upgrade to:
8 - 14 in (356 mm) guns (4 x 2)

16 - 5.9 in (150 mm) guns (16 × 1)
12 - 3 in (75 mm) (12 × 1)

Note: 2 designs was proposed, one from German (Bayern Class) and the other from Britain (QE Class)
Note: WG did not stop giving P.E. Friedrich her theoretical upgrade at T6, this is no exception.


T7 Design 1047

Armament:
Initial:
9 - 11.1 in (283 mm) guns (3 x 3)
Upgrade to:
6 - 15 in (380 mm) guns (3 x 2)

12 × 4.7 in (120 mm) guns (6 × 2)
14 × 1.6 in (40 mm) Bofors AA guns (7 × 2)
8 × 0.79 in (20 mm) Oerlikon AA guns (8 × 1)

Note: Dutch Scharnhorst


T8 Dutch "Bismarck"

Armament:
Initial:
12 - 11.1 in (283 mm) guns (4 x 3)
Upgrade to:
8 - 15 in (380 mm) guns (4 x 2)

12 - 5.9 in (150 mm) guns (6 × 2)
16 - 4.1 in (105 mm) guns (8 × 2)
16 - 1.5 in (37 mm) guns (8 × 2)
20 - 0.79 in (20 mm) guns (20 × 1)

Note: With the success of the Design 1047 Class, Netherlands further their ship building alliance with Germany and procure their own Bismarck class with 2 smoke stack if WW2 did not start too early.


T9 Dutch "F.D. Grosser"

Armament:
8 - 16 in (406 mm) guns (4 × 2)
12 - 5.9 in (150 mm) guns (6 × 2)
16 - 4.1 in (105 mm) guns (8 × 2)
16 - 1.5 in (37 mm) guns (8 × 2)
20 - 0.79 in (20 mm) guns (20 × 1)

Note: Stretching the limits of Dutch and German ship building alliance if WW2 did not start too early.
Note: Germany would not sell them their 420 mm.


T10 ????

Armament:
????

Note: No Data. Need Input

 

Nation Legend:
PL = Poland
PT = Portugal
ES = Spain / Espania
NL = Netherlands
GR = Greece
RO = Romania
EE = Estonia
SE = Sweden
AT = Austria (Austro-Hungary)

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