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TheNPUKy

Every time CV avoids losing star in Ranked Battle. That's unfair.

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The top scorer in a losing team does not lose one's rank. I would say that's a good system.
But in this season of Ranked Battle, we have CVs.
And in most cases, they are the "last one" in the losing team.

What does it mean? The time being alive is proportional to the damage you can give to enemies, as you know.
And it is much easier for CV to become the top scorer in a team by delaying the end of the battle.

I would say it is quite unfair for the rest of the ships and hoping WG to introduce a fix.  

Note: I am essentially pro-CV / pro-version 0.8.x rework. 
 

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Putting CVs in ranked when they are still trying to balance them {latest patch} is why we had chernobyl.

 

 

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The problem is not the CV, but 'saving the star' because it encourages people to play passively and take minimal risk rather than work as a team. It was also present in last ranked season where people took yamatos to snipe at each other and dds were a rarity as well. What has happened this ranked season is just an upgrade from BB to CV. Remove 'save star' and double reward best winner with two stars if "star economics" is the reason for star saving. 

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3 hours ago, TheNPUKy said:

The top scorer in a losing team does not lose one's rank. I would say that's a good system.

I disagree. This is a poor system as it encourages selfish play.

1 hour ago, dejiko_nyo said:

The problem is not the CV, but 'saving the star' because it encourages people to play passively and take minimal risk rather than work as a team. It was also present in last ranked season where people took yamatos to snipe at each other and dds were a rarity as well. What has happened this ranked season is just an upgrade from BB to CV. Remove 'save star' and double reward best winner with two stars if "star economics" is the reason for star saving. 

This I agree with. The "save a star" mentality has been present since it started, and its only been getting worse over time. Only difference now is that its the CV with the advantage, instead of sniping BBs such as Yamato and Conqueror.

People do not "play to win", they play to "save a star", getting highest base XP in any way possible,  which, as most players know, isn't always synonymous with a winning playstyle.

This can often lead to losses which could have been avoided if only players were "playing to win".

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It's not CV's. This has been around since Ranked battles were a thing. Stop blaming a class for a badly thought out mechanic and awful player attitudes.

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17 minutes ago, Grygus_Triss said:

The "save a star" mentality has been present since it started

Not really from the start not season 1 im sure of it. It was a heavily requested feature due having 6 absolute potato teammates on your side which is pure rng and you are the only carry, slightly alleviates personal blood pressure levels.

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1 hour ago, Lowyat said:

Not really from the start not season 1 im sure of it. It was a heavily requested feature due having 6 absolute potato teammates on your side which is pure rng and you are the only carry, slightly alleviates personal blood pressure levels.

As with all good things, it later has been abused to gain an unfair advantage. My proposal is to either i) replace it with a "reward the best winner with an extra star" to encourage competitive and intellectual PLAY (HA! fat chance - sorry, I had to snark) or ii) revamp the scoring system to make risk taking more profitable. Right now, right risk taking is not profitable. One might counter, it encourages 'suicidal play'. Well, this is offset by the fact that you die early, you have a good chance not to be best winner. Or you might be the key to the win and your team lost instead.

1 hour ago, Grygus_Triss said:

I disagree. This is a poor system as it encourages selfish play.

This I agree with. The "save a star" mentality has been present since it started, and its only been getting worse over time. Only difference now is that its the CV with the advantage, instead of sniping BBs such as Yamato and Conqueror.

"This I disagree! This I agree with!" Sorry, I just wanted to say that. :P But yes, CVs are just being made a scapegoat for a problem that has existed.

1 hour ago, Lupis said:

It's not CV's. This has been around since Ranked battles were a thing. Stop blaming a class for a badly thought out mechanic and awful player attitudes.

+1

I remember reading somewhere that the "save star system" was in part due that because in effect stars are transferred from losers to winners, it would be a sum zero system where it made tier progression much harder, so they introduced this "extra stars" to ensure people did not stagnant in lower tiers or something. Please do correct me if I screwed this up.

Addendum. How may errata must I make in one post. -_-;;

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IMO Ranked match rewards(xp,credits) should be just like Clan Battles where everybody gets the fixed amount. Winning team gets 10x the losing team. Plain and simple. It will then force everyone to atleast consider playing as a team...

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I must say putting CV's into ranked knowing the bug with long range AA fire was a mistake on WGing part.

But I guess it will be here for the season, best you can do is adapt as best you can. :Smile_unsure:

It is not like they are going to pull CV's out of ranked now.

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