DD in Smoke Shooting, Don't Show??

[ohunt]

Just had a game in my T6 New Mexico in a T8 game, 2 CV(Lex).

So there I was heading towards a Cap in a snail pace, looking to engage a Admiral Hipper and another CA and as I neared, what do you know, a DD.

Manage to dodge all the trops, turn and headed direct towards the DD. And as the DD smoked up, I was about 9 KM away...8KM and the DD started shooting at me....can't see the DD....7KM, DD still shooting at me moving to and fro inside the smoke, can't see the DD, Hipper started shooting.....6 KM DD keep on shooting, can't see the dd, Dive Bombers and Rockets Plane from the LEX....5KM DD still shooting at me and I still can't see the DD inside the smoke....4KM...I finally blew up....and STILL can't see the DD...

I thought when a ANY ship shoots within a smoke you will be able to see them?

[appoclyse]

13 minutes ago, ohunt said:

Just had a game in my T6 New Mexico in a T8 game, 2 CV(Lex).

So there I was heading towards a Cap in a snail pace, looking to engage a Admiral Hipper and another CA and as I neared, what do you know, a DD.

Manage to dodge all the trops, turn and headed direct towards the DD. And as the DD smoked up, I was about 9 KM away...8KM and the DD started shooting at me....can't see the DD....7KM, DD still shooting at me moving to and fro inside the smoke, can't see the DD, Hipper started shooting.....6 KM DD keep on shooting, can't see the dd, Dive Bombers and Rockets Plane from the LEX....5KM DD still shooting at me and I still can't see the DD inside the smoke....4KM...I finally blew up....and STILL can't see the DD...

I thought when a ANY ship shoots within a smoke you will be able to see them?

did u get knock by something *slap* wake up lol.

[Mechfori]

which DD .. many DD in the likely range do have very low detection range when firing from smoke, say T6 Gallant had a detection range of 2.4KM when firing from smoke , in fact I think all of them are below 3KM but I had to go back and check

[RalphTheTheatreCat]

9 minutes ago, ohunt said:

I thought when a ANY ship shoots within a smoke you will be able to see them?

Solely dependant on the range.   Ships can still shoot from within smoke without being sighted.   What DD was it?

[Paladinum]

15 hours ago, ohunt said:

4KM

Even most T10 DDs have their smoking firing range less than 3km when fully specced for stealth.

[dejiko_nyo]

Ah. The wonders of stealth firing from smoke. How quaint.

[ohunt]

Ahhh....yes. Sorry. I got confuse.....When in smoke, you fire they can't see you but when a ship fire INTO the smoke, the ship inside the smoke can "See" you, from outside of the smoke.

You cannot detect a ship inside a smoke screen until about 2 to 3km distance.....

Bleh....should take a break after playing a DD before playing other ships......

 

[Gummiheng]

[Grygus_Triss]

1 hour ago, ohunt said:

Ahhh....yes. Sorry. I got confuse.....When in smoke, you fire they can't see you but when a ship fire INTO the smoke, the ship inside the smoke can "See" you, from outside of the smoke.

You cannot detect a ship inside a smoke screen until about 2 to 3km distance.....

Bleh....should take a break after playing a DD before playing other ships......

 

Actually, ALL ships have a "detectability after firing main guns in smoke" range.

This actually works for ships firing INTO or OUT OF smoke.

Most DDs have a smoke firing range of about 2-3km. Cruisers have greater (though smoke CLs still have pretty good smoke firing, about 4-6km) and battleships have smoke firing that really only works at long range.

This means that if a New Mex is within 12km of ANY DD in a smokescreen, and fires its guns, the DD can see it, and fire its guns and be undetected, unless it is within 3km.

This also means that if the New Mex was in the smokescreen, and the DD was out of it, New Mex could not see the DD at all, even if DD was firing (assuming nothing else spotting DD). While if the New Mex fired, The DD could easily see her if it was within 12km range.

This is why, if a DD smokes up, and there is nothing else spotting you, better to just stop firing, go undetected, reposition, reload, and aim guns, and wait for smoke to clear.

Or, if you remember how long DD takes to reload torps and reckon you are safe, charge smokescreen. Not that any of that would have worked for you because there were CAs spotting you.