Last time, Fletchers, this time, Cruisers

[Paladinum]

Last time, Fletchers, this time, Cruisers

I think WG have stopped (at least temporarily) the super cruiser train? Because there is actually one pretty well-known of the so-called "super cruiser" designs left. It's the German-designed Project 1047 for the Royal Netherlands Navy.

I don't think WG have run out of ships to put in the game (the Italian Navy has yet to have a line even), but yeah, standard cruisers (cruisers that aren't carrying absurdly large guns or having absurdly large hulls) are my preference right now, even when I actually own Alaska.

 

Lützow

HISTORICAL plan for 2 Hipper-class light cruisers (her and Seydlitz).

Take a look at my German CL line proposal here:

https://forum.worldofwarships.asia/topic/34974-german-light-cruiser-line-speculationproposal/

Simply put, a Hipper-class but with 4 of Nürnberg's guns. A so-lit T9 candidate, considering the following facts:

1. 50% more guns than Hipper (12 vs 8).
2. As much as HALF the reload (6s vs 11s).
3. Hull B Hipper having as much HP as some T10 standard cruisers: more HP than Zao and Minotaur, almost as much as Worcester.
4. Impressive gun range, either using range from Nürnberg or Hipper.

With a Repair Party, she would be a new trigger-happy flamethrower that will eventually go obsolete as many other ships in the German tech tree. 

 

Maya 1943

REFITTED Takao-class with all the AA guns the IJN could afford.

(you know that is a joke, right? Right?)

T8 candidate, armed to shoot down planes.

Having as many as 100% MORE AA guns than her sisters, Maya 1943 would be another interesting ship in this War on you-know-what.

The only obvious "drawback" is that she has 1 less turret than her sister. It's the nearly useless 'C' turret that is in the forward battery but points backward.

My take on the consumables:

Simply no Hydro. Otherwise she's the same as Atago and ARP Takao.

 

"Old" Buffalo

TIER TEN version back in 2016, viewable through Extended tech tree mod.

For those who don't know, this version of Buffalo is about the same as the current T9 Buffalo, but with the following differences as I could recall:
1. Main gun reload is 10s.
2. Carrying 2 sets of torpedo tubes on either side of the ship near the aft. Each set has 4 tubes. The torpedoes are the 9.2 km on Benson and Fletcher.

To be very honest, this ship is somewhat of a missed opportunity. Playing "the odd one out" in the current US CA line you will see the funny part. The line can be Pensacola - New Orleans - Wichita - Baltimore - Des Moines. In the current line we have Buffalo preceding a ship that has very, very different armament.

Would people buy this ship as a T9 premium because she's a high-tier US cruiser with torpedoes? A high-tier US cruiser with torpedoes. A high-tier US cruiser with torpedoes!

 

OTHER CRUISERS OF NOTE (all real):

Blücher

SANK by a torpedo from a naval fort in Norway. 

T9 candidate. Same as Hipper, with the following changes:

1. Torpedo damage reduction to 25% (from 10%).
2. Torpedoes are the 10 km ones on Z-23/Z-46.
3. A standard Repair Party, like any other T9/10 cruisers.

I add this ship in for my own amusement.

 

Fargo-class

SLIGHTLY improved Cleveland-class.

Generally T8, possible T9 with the following gimmicks changes:

1. Infinite DAAF (like Flint).
2. Consumable Slot 5: US DD Smoke or Salem's Repair Party.

 

Ceylon-group, Crown Colony-class

THREE-TURRETTED Fiji.

Even with one turret less, easily be T7 if HE and AP shells are cruiser's standard.

Same specifications and consumables as Fiji.

Also, click >>>HERE<<< to see another class of (more or less) similar design.

 

Tiger-class 1959

THE LAST all-gun cruiser of the Royal Navy.

Imagine a Minotaur with 2 turrets and much less HP (about the same as Edinburgh and Belfast). Yeah. That's it. Doesn't even have torpedoes.

Pretty good T7 with that rate of fire. LUL.

 

Dido-class

DISCOUNT Atlantas of the Royal Navy.

These ships use secondary guns from BBs as their primary armament. The ones from KGV and Vanguard.

Dido-group carries 5 twin turrets, Bellona-group carries 4.

Either way, these ships aren't reaching T7 without (at least) a rate of fire buff. 6.7s reload with less guns is no way comparable to Atlanta/Flint, and Atlanta has more HP!

I like the names of the ships in this class though.

 

Tone-class

ALL-GUN forward (?) aviation cruiser.

Still stuck in Development Davy Jones' locker I guess.

 

Oregon City-class

SLIGHTLY improved Baltimore-class. 

What this class is to Baltimore-class is the same as what Fargo-class is to the Clevelands.

See also: Northampton-class which stands betwixt Portland-class (Indianapolis) and New Orleans-class.

 

Juneau-class

SLIGHTLY different Atlanta-class.

You could always call this class a subclass of Atlanta-class. Or of Oakland-class, which itself is a subclass of Atlanta-class. Meta.

Atlanta: 8x2 turrets, 2x4 torp tubes.
Oakland: 6x2 turrets, 2x4 torp tubes.
Juneau: 6x2 turrets.

 

Other cruisers I MUST mention:

- Japanese Ooyodo (T5).

- Premium sister of Mogami 155 please...

- French Duquesne and Suffren-classes (T6).

- Italian Bolzano (T7) as premium, Trento-class can be in the tech tree.

- Many Commonwealth, Pan-American, Pan-Asian and Pan-European cruisers with unique designs I am not familiar with to talk about.

[dejiko_nyo]

 

4 minutes ago, Paladinum said:

Maya 1943

REFITTED Takao-class with all the AA guns the IJN could afford.

CARNIVAL DA YO!

 

[Paladinum]

14 hours ago, dejiko_nyo said:

CARNIVAL DA YO!

With a lot of 'fireworks' for sure.

[IJN_Katori]

Seydlitz was also a Hipper class but was Converted into a Light Carrier.

 

Dido is actually HMS Sirius in wows Blitz, so its on Development hell.

[Paladinum]

14 hours ago, BIGCOREMKP0I said:

Dido is actually HMS Sirius in wows Blitz, so its on Development hell.

Well the 2 games are from different developers, so nothing is guaranteed.

[Paladinum]

On 5/15/2019 at 6:57 AM, Paladinum said:

- Many Commonwealth, Pan-American, Pan-Asian and Pan-European cruisers with unique designs I am not familiar with to talk about.

Examples of unique designs:

Almirante Cervera (Spain)

Tre Kronor (Sweden)

De Ruyter (Netherlands)

La Argentina (Argentina)

[dejiko_nyo]

I would like Prince of Wales and Repulse.

So that I can sink them. >_>

With a CV no less because we don't have landbased bombers.

[Paladinum]

14 hours ago, dejiko_nyo said:

I would like Prince of Wales and Repulse.

Read the title of the thread and the whole thread again  Don't you dare talking about BBs here 

[dejiko_nyo]

Just now, Paladinum said:

Read the title of the thread and the whole thread again  Don't you dare talking about BBs here 

I thought one was a cruiser/battlecruiser. That counts like a staliniumgrad/baked alaska/achuma doesn't it? >_>

[Paladinum]

14 hours ago, dejiko_nyo said:

I thought one was a cruiser/battlecruiser. That counts like a staliniumgrad/baked alaska/achuma doesn't it? >_>

You mentioned an actual BB   Cease your heresy!!!

 

And how dare you compare an actual battlecruiser with 381 mm guns with super cruisers with 305??? I don't even like super cruisers!

 

[humusz]

21 hours ago, Paladinum said:

 

I think WG have stopped (at least temporarily) the super cruiser train? Because there is actually one pretty well-known of the so-called "super cruiser" designs left. It's the German-designed Project 1047 for the Royal Netherlands Navy.

 

you mean Holand Class ?

I dont think its worth super cruiser class (play at T9-10) - its prob nice T8 though.

well, there still potential Germany O class Battlecruiser and British G3, so all major power have their large cruiser

 

my personal wishlist was this though :

1946 French Cruiser De Grasse. 

8 - twin 127mm Gun for more Daka. it might seems like French Atlanta, but french 127mm is High velocity, its shell is way Heavier, carry more bursting charges, and retain energy better. also it spew bullet 25% faster than US 127mm gun.

This gun + French reload booster : im sold man, Im sold

[Paladinum]

14 hours ago, humusz said:

well, there still potential Germany O class Battlecruiser and British G3, so all major power have their large cruiser

When will people stop grouping large/super cruisers to battlecruisers? They are NOT cruisers, and in this thread, I only care about STANDARD cruisers.

I'm not even gonna argue. Nope.

 

14 hours ago, humusz said:

1946 French Cruiser De Grasse. 

The Colbert is announced on Dev Blog. Go there.

[humusz]

1 minute ago, Paladinum said:

 

The Colbert is announced in Dev Blog. Go there.

yep, I know, thats why im sold

[Paladinum]

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