23 [UMP45] ACGtsukkomi_Poi Member 35 posts 6,359 battles Report post #1 Posted April 28, 2019 I am happy to play with everybody,but in chinese soical bbs(tieba),i see this post.I don't know why this guy's thinking.I know everybody want OP ships in this game,but STplayer job is give recommend and help development to banlance the game.I hear this guy is NA player? this is my translation,and this post link&screenshot. [Image deleted] translate: We've try our best to keep this ship's data(average dameage) down, and now the STplayer test this ships damage has gone up by 150000+. But sometimes, no matter what you do, you always meet like RNG's teammates. (RNG is chinese LOL pro game club,RNG is very weak in LOL). PS.and this guy comment on the CC UOcat upload video. hey uocat, let's talk about press down this AD data, or the ship will be debuff. 24 kilometers a round against Tilpitz 30, 000 DM, 17 kilometers a round against Montana 6 rounds of core. By the time the ship didn't fly together with nine shells, it would have averaged more than 150000 damage in game. Hope WG give us answer. [Text deleted] 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
315 yansuki Beta Tester 2,410 posts 7,238 battles Report post #2 Posted April 28, 2019 use this thread for reporting Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
211 Akyamarukh Member 305 posts 370 battles Report post #3 Posted April 28, 2019 VYou don't need to worry about OP surface sheep. As long as it remain surface pheasant, CV will always Smack it. Unless its a sheep with no fly zone, there is no need to worry. Belfast and Kutozov is ridiculously OP because its also posses stronk AA. Basically sheep without weakness. Also is that Russian BB? That thing will become OP even every supertester complain how OP is the ship 2 minutes ago, yansuki said: use this thread for reporting Its not count as game violation or unsportmansheep behavior..... So well then. The ST have a right to make biased opinion. But we also have a right to complain. So i think putting the thread on general discussion is the right choice. Note : i like chaos so DO IT Bois!! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
264 [LUOMU] HMS_Swiftsure_08 Supertest Coordinator 1,420 posts 22,631 battles Report post #4 Posted April 28, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Akyamarukh said: VYou don't need to worry about OP surface sheep. As long as it remain surface pheasant, CV will always Smack it. Unless its a sheep with no fly zone, there is no need to worry. Belfast and Kutozov is ridiculously OP because its also posses stronk AA. Basically sheep without weakness. Also is that Russian BB? That thing will become OP even every supertester complain how OP is the ship Its not count as game violation or unsportmansheep behavior..... So well then. The ST have a right to make biased opinion. But we also have a right to complain. So i think putting the thread on general discussion is the right choice. Note : i like chaos so DO IT Bois!! I'll have to disagree. Super testers should, IMHO, play WiP ships with the best of their abilities. They should provide unbiased statistics. Opinion can be biased, trash talk is part of the community. As human beings we cannot completely cleanse ourselves of biases. But as a supertester, the first priority is to help the healthy development of the game. The actions described is, IMHO, absolutely immoral and unsportsmanlike. This kind of actions is unethical and should not be tolerated for a super tester. I also consider Pobeda a bit too strong *in her current status*, and I'm also worried that I may never get to play such an exciting and empowering ship again, but my choice is stop playing her. I won't get myself spoiled, and I won't intentionally pollute statistics. I love this game. I love the devs for their hard work. It's not just entertainment, it's also naval history. I sincerely hope that this game has a bright future and a long development life cycle. It's sad a fellow ST would do this kind of despicable behavior for personal gains. PS: Please note that Work-in-Progress ships may change in the future, nothing is certain. PPS: I can read Chinese and can help with the translation. Edited April 28, 2019 by HMS_Swiftsure_08 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,066 [TLS] dejiko_nyo Member 5,849 posts 24,614 battles Report post #5 Posted April 28, 2019 I thought STs have an NDA regarding new ships similar to the CCs? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,600 Paladinum Member 7,175 posts 11,853 battles Report post #6 Posted April 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, dejiko_nyo said: I thought STs have an NDA regarding new ships similar to the CCs? Depends on the ships I think. As all the new ships' stats are revealed on Dev Blog, I assume people can formulate their own opinions for those ships, even if they lack hand-on experience. STs may even have stricter NDA than CCs IMO. About the topic, the player with the bottom of the exp rank was just playing poorly. STs consist of all kinds of people, the good AND the bad. WG need that to see how any player of any skill level would perform in a new ship. It's normal. So the guy in question is just being salty. VERY salty. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
145 [TDA] Kamanah Member 433 posts 13,586 battles Report post #7 Posted April 28, 2019 4 hours ago, dejiko_nyo said: I thought STs have an NDA regarding new ships similar to the CCs? CC's are allowed to stream, record, comment etc regarding the ships that they are testing. ST's cannot stream or record their testing, but we can take screen shots as long as we mark it correctly as Work In Progress. We can refer people to the Dev Blog if the player wants further information on the ship that they see an ST playing. Commenting and reviewing a ship isn't what ST is about, it's data gathering for WG to see how a ship/s performs. Regarding the ST that the OP posted. He has to either be a CC or a Clan Tester, because if he is streaming a test ship and he's only an ST, then he's gone messed up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,103 [LBAS] Manacetamol Modder, Member 7,382 posts 59,950 battles Report post #8 Posted April 28, 2019 (edited) report? too silly Demand banning, ban ST for him forever We dont need this kind of ST, nothing more than Decepticons, toxic, corrupted, liar . . . Edited April 28, 2019 by MatterCore 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,408 [CLAY] AntifoulAwl Alpha Tester 2,289 posts 9,987 battles Report post #9 Posted April 28, 2019 This ST is only fooling himself by deliberately trying to keep the stats down. The data that gets recorded shows his shots fired in the battle. Dispersion of shot for that ship is a known thing, so accuracy is not in doubt. The heat map will also show his ship movements during battle, so if he is avoiding contact with enemy that will also show. Devs reviewing the ship performance will just come to the conclusion that he is a bad shot or a noob. 'Oh look, he fired 45 shots and only got 1 hit.' or 'This guy only fired once here'. Devs aren't stupid, that's why they're game programmers. All this ST has managed to accomplish is his removal from the program.... WP 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
274 [VKNGS] Aaditya_AJ Member 1,349 posts 14,322 battles Report post #10 Posted April 28, 2019 let him be.. He doesn't even come close to being 0.1% of the STs so what ever he is trying to do ain't gonna work as stats are taken from all the servers and I can say Our Server Alone has 100s of STs. now compare it to CCs, STs on all the 4 servers. Then take into account of hopefuls who are not given full ST status. In the end WG is gonna have what they need but what will they do with it is their choice.. because we know their decision making and relying upon what they have been doing with the game won't be surprised if they release it as it is... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 destroverPOI Member 4 posts 192 battles Report post #11 Posted April 29, 2019 (edited) I checked the original post and all comments, the STer DO PUT the WIP watermark, and he DO declared he is JOKING. so I do not know why you try to attack him. In addition, WG can check his stat to confirm he did what he said or not. Thank you Edited April 29, 2019 by destroverPOI Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 destroverPOI Member 4 posts 192 battles Report post #12 Posted April 29, 2019 5 hours ago, AntifoulAwl said: This ST is only fooling himself by deliberately trying to keep the stats down. The data that gets recorded shows his shots fired in the battle. Dispersion of shot for that ship is a known thing, so accuracy is not in doubt. The heat map will also show his ship movements during battle, so if he is avoiding contact with enemy that will also show. Devs reviewing the ship performance will just come to the conclusion that he is a bad shot or a noob. 'Oh look, he fired 45 shots and only got 1 hit.' or 'This guy only fired once here'. Devs aren't stupid, that's why they're game programmers. All this ST has managed to accomplish is his removal from the program.... WP I checked the original post and all comments, the STer do put the WIP watermark, and he do declared he is JOKING. so I do not know why this guy try to attack him. interesting Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 destroverPOI Member 4 posts 192 battles Report post #13 Posted April 29, 2019 11 hours ago, MatterCore said: report? too silly Demand banning, ban ST for him forever We dont need this kind of ST, nothing more than Decepticons, toxic, corrupted, liar . . . I checked the original post and all comments, the STer do put the WIP watermark, and he do declared he is JOKING. so I do not know why this guy try to attack him. interesting Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
639 [AN-DO] blauflamme22 Member 765 posts 11,975 battles Report post #14 Posted April 29, 2019 @destroverPOI you know everybody can read the replies right? You don''t have to reply to every single post individually, because that comes across as a little odd, maybe even suspicious since your first three posts are exactly the same thing and in defense of a dodgy ST 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 destroverPOI Member 4 posts 192 battles Report post #15 Posted April 29, 2019 28 minutes ago, blauflamme22 said: @destroverPOI you know everybody can read the replies right? You don''t have to reply to every single post individually, because that comes across as a little odd, maybe even suspicious since your first three posts are exactly the same thing and in defense of a dodgy ST youre right, but what I said is totally true Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
211 Akyamarukh Member 305 posts 370 battles Report post #16 Posted April 29, 2019 56 minutes ago, blauflamme22 said: @destroverPOI you know everybody can read the replies right? You don''t have to reply to every single post individually, because that comes across as a little odd, maybe even suspicious since your first three posts are exactly the same thing and in defense of a dodgy ST 27 minutes ago, destroverPOI said: youre right, but what I said is totally true You can do multi quote instead, like what i did. Press quote and the choose another post to quote. Its better than doing multi post for one quote. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
888 [RSM] LawrenceXVIII Beta Tester 2,102 posts 7,874 battles Report post #17 Posted April 29, 2019 (edited) Supertesters are all stupid . But not all of them.. They just prefer Gloryhound. But this one on video is beyond me... I dont know why WG accept stupid and wrong people when they are some flaws within it. Edited April 29, 2019 by LawrenceXVIII Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,858 [TDA] RalphTheTheatreCat Supertest Coordinator, Alpha Tester 6,451 posts 14,428 battles Report post #18 Posted April 29, 2019 6 minutes ago, LawrenceXVIII said: Supertesters are all stupid . But not all of them Contradicting yourself. Lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
888 [RSM] LawrenceXVIII Beta Tester 2,102 posts 7,874 battles Report post #19 Posted April 29, 2019 (edited) 35 minutes ago, RalphTheTheatreCat said: Contradicting yourself. Lol Doesn't matter, you still fall regardless. Maybe falling rogue. You can't tell. They just Gloryhound over telling how feedback works. Even i myself as a Beta Tester is already Fallen. Edited April 29, 2019 by LawrenceXVIII Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,408 [CLAY] AntifoulAwl Alpha Tester 2,289 posts 9,987 battles Report post #20 Posted April 29, 2019 10 hours ago, AntifoulAwl said: This ST is only fooling himself by deliberately trying to keep the stats down. The data that gets recorded shows his shots fired in the battle. Dispersion of shot for that ship is a known thing, so accuracy is not in doubt. The heat map will also show his ship movements during battle, so if he is avoiding contact with enemy that will also show. Devs reviewing the ship performance will just come to the conclusion that he is a bad shot or a noob. 'Oh look, he fired 45 shots and only got 1 hit.' or 'This guy only fired once here'. Devs aren't stupid, that's why they're game programmers. All this ST has managed to accomplish is his removal from the program.... WP 5 hours ago, destroverPOI said: I checked the original post and all comments, the STer do put the WIP watermark, and he do declared he is JOKING. so I do not know why this guy try to attack him. interesting Nowhere in my post did I attack him. -In one line I theorized that the devs may conclude he is a noob. That is the closest thing that I would call an attack. If, as you say, the person in question has done nothing wrong, good. Well done for clearing it up.... care to link it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,408 [CLAY] AntifoulAwl Alpha Tester 2,289 posts 9,987 battles Report post #21 Posted April 29, 2019 10 minutes ago, LawrenceXVIII said: Maybe falling rogue. Ralph was rogue way before this game came along. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
888 [RSM] LawrenceXVIII Beta Tester 2,102 posts 7,874 battles Report post #22 Posted April 29, 2019 16 minutes ago, AntifoulAwl said: Ralph was rogue way before this game came along. No Shet. I am a fallen pre-closed-tester. What bout you? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,408 [CLAY] AntifoulAwl Alpha Tester 2,289 posts 9,987 battles Report post #23 Posted April 29, 2019 1 minute ago, LawrenceXVIII said: No Shet. I am a fallen pre-closed-tester. What bout you? Me?.. I'm a noob. ...What's pre-closed? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
888 [RSM] LawrenceXVIII Beta Tester 2,102 posts 7,874 battles Report post #24 Posted April 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, AntifoulAwl said: Me?.. I'm a noob. ...What's pre-closed? You could said i was once wanted to become a Beta Tester in Wot but turned down due to my age that time. Then i just joined in 2012 August. Until i got into wows... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
94 [TKR] Adorable_Ayanami Member 158 posts 16,893 battles Report post #25 Posted April 29, 2019 >Tieba There is nothing that can convince me the ST isn't trolling. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites