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Hi WG Dev team,

Good day to you all, I would like to propose the Italian tech tree. Although my research is incomplete, I would like to ask for everyone's help in filling in the missing ships. WG team also can have input if they have books or historic plans of the Italian Navy.
Missing links:
T3 BB
T10 BB (Although the T10 BB has names, their configuration is very much theoretical. Usually, what France build, Italy answers and vice versa. Pretty much like what UK builds, Germany answers and vice versa.)
T4 CL/CA
T8 - T10 CA (Though a pretty much possible T8 and T9 CA will have 10 - 203 mm guns in {3 x 2} and {2 x 2} config, while T10 CA will either have 12 - 203 mm guns or 9 to 10 larger than 203 mm guns if any data exists)

I kinda understand why WG have difficulty in implementing the Italian tech tree. I'm not sure but they may be facing the same challenges on getting info in Italian ships. Especially on T8 to T10. WG wants it to be as historically accurate as possible. Which I really appreciate and thank them for their hard work. Although my suggestion may not be read or noticed, I hope this suggestion may help them a bit on the research.


Please have a look and consider this suggestion.

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The Italians have main armaments that has fast velocity and heavy shells.
    Fast velocity shells = overpens in close range???
    Heavy shells = limited range???
Italian consumable gimmick = ? (I'm sure WG is working on this, but anyone can suggest a gimmick. Maybe from the space battle or haloween?)

BB main line -> This branch is the main battleship line plays almost like US and Russian BB but has that Italian feel / gimmick
BB branch line ->This branch line is some what of an odd ball. It looks, fells, and smells like a Battlecruiser but it doesn't. Small decrease in gun calibre/caliber, and small increase in speed while armor stays the same, while playing as an Italian, these ships feels like you have played them before in France, Germany, USA, UK, and Soviet Tech tree.

DD line -> Italian DD line.

Destroyer Note: Falco shares her class with Romania. Look into Romanian Destroyer Marasti Class and Regele Ferdinand Class
        Quick detail 1939 config -> 5 x 1 120 mm, 1941 config -> 2 x 2 120 mm

Destroyer Note: Like WOT, the P43 was a heavy tank on paper but it is really a medium tank in real life practice and in the WOT game. Same thing will apply to T9 Etna and T10 Attilio Regolo "Capitani Romani Class".

Destroyer Note: According to Wikipedia, T9 Etna and T10 Attilio Regolo "Capitani Romani Class" are consdered as crisers. But their design is more of a "Flotilla Leader", hence a "Large Destroyer" like France's Mogador of T10 and Russia's Khabarovsk of T10 are counter these ships. 
            


CL line -> Light cruiser line (T4 no Data)
CA line -> Heavy cruiser line (T8-T10 no Data)

Cruiser note: Since there is no known light cruiser design after Duca degli Abruzzi / Giuseppe Garibaldi, it is uncertain if there will be a T8 light cruiser line.
        If -> Theoretical T8 light cruiser exist with 12 guns
            Light cruiser line stops at T8 and the next re searchable tier will be T8 heavy cruiser, thus ending the light cruiser tech tree.

        Else If -> Theoretical T9 light cruiser design possible
            Light cruiser line continues till T10.

        Else ->
            Light cruiser line stops at T7 and the next re searchable tier will be T8 heavy cruiser, thus ending the light cruiser tech tree.


Cruiser note: French and Italian tech tree will have this similarities. What France makes, Italy responds and vise versa.

 

Battleship
T3 ????

Armament:
    ?? x 305 mm (12 in) guns
    ?? x 120 mm (4.7 in) guns

Note: I do not have any idea on this and there are no preliminary designs I can find.
Personal Opinion: I can only think of 3 designs for this tier (they are not historical and it is only my personal idea or opinion):
    Design 1: 12 x 305 mm (12 in) guns (6 x 2) - Regina Elena class design. Main armament and secondary armament is armed with dual 305 mm guns (1 Bow, 1 Aft, 2 Port, 2 Starbord). She can fire only 4 turrets per broadside. She will feel like Turenne (French T3 BB)
    Design 2: 8 x 305 mm (12 in) guns (4 x 2) - Dante Alighieri design but guns are in dual mount in four turrets instead of triple mount. This will make Dante Alighieri feel skinnier due to less number of guns, but give you an idea how Dante Alighieri should be played.
    Design 3: 9 x 305 mm (12 in) guns (3 x 3) - Dante Alighieri design but guns are in triple mount but in three turrets instead of four. This will make Dante Alighieri feel short and plays like Normandie (French T6 BB).


T4 Dante Alighieri

Armament:
    12 x 305 mm (12 in) guns (4 x 3)
    20 x 120 mm (4.7 in) guns (12 x 1 and 4 x 2)
    14 × 76.2 mm (3 in) guns (14 x 1)

Note: If you are familiar with Soviet BB Gangut or Okt. Revolutsiya, she will play the same as those Soviet BB.


T5 Leonardo da Vinci

Armament (As built):
    13 x 305 mm (12 in) guns (3 x 3 and 2 x 2)
    18 × 120 mm (4.7 in) guns (18 x 1)
    14 × 76.2 mm (3 in) guns (14 x 1)

Armament (Modernized) (Optional) (Hull C):
    10 x 320 mm (12.6 in) guns (3 x 2 and 2 x 2)
    12 × 120 mm (4.7 in) (6 x 2)
    8 × 100 mm (3.9 in)/47 AA guns (4 x 2)

Note: She is the 3rd sister of Conte di Cavour and Giulio Cesare.
Note: Leonardo da Vinci was sunk while her 2 other sister survived WW1 and got modenized.
Option: Hull C, should Leonardo da Vinci survived WW1, she whould get the same upgrade as Conte di Cavour and Giulio Cesare or better.


T6 Francesco Caracciolo

Armament:
    8 × 381 mm (15 in)/ 40 guns (4 x 2)
    12 × 152 mm (6 in) guns (12 x 1)
    12 × 102 mm (4 in) guns (6 x 2)

Note: She is direct counter to QE2 and Bayern


Main Branch
T7 Michaelangelo or Raffaello

Armament:
    8 × 381 mm (15 in) /40 or 50 guns (4 x 2)
    12 × 152 mm (6 in) /55 guns (4 x 3)
    12 × 90 mm (3.5 in) /50 AA guns (12 x 1)
    20 × 37 mm (1.5 in) /54 AA guns (10 x 2)
    32 × 20 mm (0.79) Breda MG (16 x 2)

Note: Preliminary design for Vittorio Veneto class. 8 guns in 4 turrets


T8 Vittorio Veneto

Armament:
    9 × 381 mm (15 in) /50 guns (3 x 3)
    12 × 152 mm (6 in) /55 guns (4 x 3)
    12 × 90 mm (3.5 in) /50 AA guns (12 x 1)
    20 × 37 mm (1.5 in) /54 AA guns (10 x 2)
    32 × 20 mm (0.79) Breda MG (16 x 2)

Note: Italy's answer to Richelieu Class. Plays like N. Carolina and Monarch.
Note: Battle of Vittorio Veneto (WW1)


T9 Caporetto (UP.41)

Armament:
    9 × 406 mm (16 in) guns (3 x 3)
    12 × 152 mm (6 in) guns (4 x 3 or 6 x 2)
    12 × 90 mm (3.5 in) AA guns (6 x 2)
    20 × 37 mm (1.5 in) AA guns (10 x 2)

Note: UP.41 design. Looks, fells, and smells almost like Sovetsky Soyuz class (Russian T9 BB)
Note: Battle of Caporetto (WW1)


T10 Repubblica

Armament (Design 1 - 4 Turret):
    12 × 406 mm (16 in) guns (4 x 3) or 8 x ???mm guns (4 x 2)
    12 × 152 mm (6 in) guns (4 x 3 or 6 x 2)
    ?? × 90 mm (3.5 in) AA guns
    ?? × 37 mm (1.5 in) AA guns

Armament (Design 2 - 4 Turret) Andrea Doria type:
    10 × 406 mm (16 in) guns (2 x 3 and 2 x 2) or 8 x ???mm guns (4 x 2)
    12 × 152 mm (6 in) guns (4 x 3 or 6 x 2)
    ?? × 90 mm (3.5 in) AA guns
    ?? × 37 mm (1.5 in) AA guns

Armament (Design 3 - 3 Turret):
    9 x ???mm guns (3 x 3)
    12 × 152 mm (6 in) guns (4 x 3 or 6 x 2)
    ?? × 90 mm (3.5 in) AA guns
    ?? × 37 mm (1.5 in) AA guns

Note: Direct counter to French T10 Republique / Libertie
Note: It is unknown if Italy has made plans for a larger calibre/caliber guns no larger than 457 mm (18 in) in this . The largest guns goes to Japan's monstrosity Yamato
Note: Since there is no concrete design after and beyond UP.41, I just speculate that Italy may have thought of a design beyond UP.41 but did not came to light as they fell first after WW2 and faced financial hardship.
Personal Opinion: I can only think of 3 designs for this tier (they are not historical and it is only my personal idea or opinion):
    Design 1: She could have 4 turret slots, but armed with 406 mm in 4 triple mount or ???mm in 4 double mount
    Design 2: She could have 4 turret slots, but armed with 406 mm in 2 triple mount and in 2 double or ???mm in 4 double mount
    Design 3: She could have 3 turret slots, but armed with ??? mm in 3 triple mount

 


Side SAP Branch (Update: Possible SAP line. Dangerous to CL and CA.)
T6 Conte Di Cavour

Armament (As built):
    13 x 305 mm (12 in) guns (3 x 3 and 2 x 2)
    18 × 120 mm (4.7 in) guns (18 x 1)
    14 × 76.2 mm (3 in) guns (14 x 1)

Armament (Modernized) (Optional) (Hull C):
    10 x 320 mm (12.6 in) guns (3 x 2 and 2 x 2)
    12 × 120 mm (4.7 in) (6 x 2)
    8 × 100 mm (3.9 in)/47 AA guns (4 x 2)

Note: Leonardo Da Vinci in SAP mode.


T7 Andrea Doria or Caio Duilio

Armament (Modernized 1937):
    10 x 320 mm (12.6 in) guns (3 x 2 and 2 x 2)
    12 × 135 mm (5.3 in) guns (4 x 3)
    10 × 90 mm (3.5 in) AA guns (10 x 1)
    16 x 37 mm (1.5 in) Breda AA guns (8 x 2)
    16 x 20 mm (0.79 in) Breda AA guns (8 x 2)

Note: I am very sure one of them will be a premium like Dunkerque and Strasbourg or Scharnhorst and Gneisenau.
Note: She will be familiar as plays like Lyon and KGV. Small calibre/caliber for her tier but has many guns.


T8 Filippo Lippi

Armament:
    6 × 381 mm (15 in) /40 or 50 guns (3 x 2) or 9 x 343 mm (13.5 in)/ 50 guns (3 x 3)
    12 × 152 mm (6 in) /55 guns (4 x 3)
    10 × 90 mm (3.5 in) /50 AA guns (10 x 1)
    20 × 37 mm (1.5 in) /54 AA guns (10 x 2)
    32 × 20 mm (0.79) Breda MG (16 x 2)

Note: Another preliminary design for Vittorio Veneto.
Note: She will be familiar as plays like Gneisenau. (Which will be moved to T8 because of the battle cruiser suggestion I will make in the future)
Side Note: Yes, there is really an Italian painter called Filippo LippiIts and not to be confused with the band "Fra Lippo Lippi" which is Norwegian. Stitches and Burns. :Smile_Default:


T9 Isonzo (UP.41)

Armament:
    9 × 381 mm (15 in) guns (3 x 3)
    12 × 152 mm (6 in) guns (4 x 3 or 6 x 2)
    12 × 90 mm (3.5 in) AA guns (6 x 2)
    20 × 37 mm (1.5 in) AA guns (10 x 2)

Note: UP.41 design. Looks, fells, and smells almost like Sovetsky Soyuz class (Russian T9 BB) but armed with 381 mm
Note: Battle of Isonzo (WW1)
Note: She will be familiar as plays like Iowa or Sovetsky Soyuz with a twist.


T10 Impero

Armament (Design 1 - 4 Turret):
    12 × 381 mm (15 in) guns (4 x 3) or 8 x ???mm guns (4 x 2)
    12 × 152 mm (6 in) guns (4 x 3 or 6 x 2)
    ?? × 90 mm (3.5 in) AA guns
    ?? × 37 mm (1.5 in) AA guns

Armament (Design 2 - 4 Turret) Andrea Doria type:
    10 × 381 mm (15 in) guns (2 x 3 and 2 x 2) or 8 x 406 mm guns (4 x 2)
    12 × 152 mm (6 in) guns (4 x 3 or 6 x 2)
    ?? × 90 mm (3.5 in) AA guns
    ?? × 37 mm (1.5 in) AA guns

Armament (Design 3 - 3 Turret):
    9 x 406 mm guns (3 x 3)
    12 × 152 mm (6 in) guns (4 x 3 or 6 x 2)
    ?? × 90 mm (3.5 in) AA guns
    ?? × 37 mm (1.5 in) AA guns

Note: She will be familiar as plays like Montana, Conqueror or Iowa , Lion with a twist.
Note: It is unknown if Italy has made plans for a larger calibre/caliber guns no larger than 431 mm (17 in) in this branch. The largest guns goes to Japan's monstrosity Yamato
Note: Since there is no concrete design after and beyond UP.41, I just speculate that Italy may have thought of a design beyond UP.41 but did not came to light as they fell first after WW2 and faced financial hardship.
Personal Opinion: I can only think of 3 designs for this tier (they are not historical and it is only my personal idea or opinion):
    Design 1: She could have 4 turret slots, but armed with 381 mm in 4 triple mount or ???mm in 4 double mount
    Design 2: She could have 4 turret slots, but armed with 381 mm in 2 triple mount and in 2 double or ???mm in 4 double mount
    Design 3: She could have 3 turret slots, but armed with ??? mm in 3 triple mount


Next is Cruisers

Full details in the following days.

Edited by S0und_Theif
New DD Branch added, Adding T6 Conte Di Cavour, Edit side branch as SAP Branch

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Cruisers

Proposing the Italian Cruiser tech tree. As you notice it may be a bit similar to my French Tech Tree suggestion. This is also due to lack to information on the latter part of the light cruiser line why I stopped at T7 (T8 hypothetically)
Without any further delay, here are the ships line-up:

T1 Eriteria (Avviso / Sloop)

Armament:
4 - 120 mm (4.7 in) guns (2 × 2)
2 - 40 mm (1.6 in) pom pom (2 × 1)
4 - 13.2 mm (0.52 in) machine guns (4 × 1)

Note: Like the French Bougainville and the British Black Swan, they are all Sloops of War


T2 Quarto (Protected Cruiser)

Armament:
6 - 120 mm (4.7 in) guns (6 x 1)
6 - 76 mm (3.0 in) guns (6 x 1) possible not to include or use as AA guns

Note: Can only fire 3 guns on a broadside.


T3 Campania (Protected Cruiser) 

Armament:
6 × 152 mm (6.0 in) guns (6 x 1) 
6 × 76 mm (3.0 in) guns (6 X 1)
2 × 47 mm (1.9 in) guns (2 x 1)
2 × maxim machine guns (2 x 1)

Note: Can fire 4 guns broadside.
Note: Possible to add more guns or replace the 76 mm (3.0 in) guns to 152 mm (6 in) making them a total of 12 main guns. The down side, you loose the secondaries. 


T4 ???? (CL)

Armament:
??

Note: In 1913, Admiral Paolo Thaon di Revel became the Chief of Staff of the Regia Marina (Royal Navy). He secured authorization for a huge new construction program, which called for four new battleships, three cruisers. (Source Wikipedia under Francesco Caracciolo)
Note: Like France's Friant, Italy plans to create 3 light cruisers during the 1913. However I am unable to find any designs about this cruiser nor her size and armaments. Hence I require help on whether were any cruiser designs prior to the Condottieri class. Thanks in Advance 


T5 Giussano (CL)

Armament:
8 - 152 mm (6 in)/ 53 guns (4 x 2)
6 - 100 mm (4 in)/ 47 guns (3 x 2)
8 - 37 mm (1.5 in)/ 54 Breda Model 1932 AA guns (8 x 1)
8 - 13.2 mm (0.52 in)/ 76 Breda Model 1931 MG (8 x 1)
4 - 533 mm (21 in) torpedo tubes (2 x 2)

Note: 1st of the 5 Condottieri class sub-design


Light Cruiser Split

T6 Eugenio di Savoia (CL)

Armament:
8 - 152 mm (6 in)/ 53 guns (4 × 2)
6 - 100 mm (4 in)/ 47 guns (3 × 2)
8 - 37 mm (1.5 in)/ 54 Breda Model 1932 AA guns (4 × 2)
12 - 13.2 mm (0.52 in)/ 76 Breda Model 1931 MG (6 × 2)
6 - 533 mm (21 in) torpedo tubes (2 × 3)

Note: 4th of the 5 Condottieri class sub-design
Note: Last minute change from my original post. Insted of Luigi Cadorna or Armando Diaz (2nd of the 5 Condottieri class sub-design), changed to Eugenio di Savoia (Duca d'Aosta sister), due to significant armament increase.
Note: Duca d'Aosta is already a premium so her sister will take her place.


T7 Giuseppe Garibaldi (CL)

Armament:
10 × 152 mm (6 in)/ 53 guns (3 x 2 and 2 x 2)
8 × 100 mm (4 in)/ 47 guns (4 x 2)
8 × 37 mm (1.5 in)/ 54 Breda Model 1932 AA guns (4 x 2)
12 × 20 mm (0.79 in)/65 Breda Model 1935 AA guns (6 x 2 / 12 x 1)
6 × 533 mm (21 in) torpedo launchers (2 x 3)

Note: 5th of the 5 Condottieri class sub-design
Note: Duca degli Abruzzi is already a premium so her sister will take her place.
Note: It is uncertain if there were plans for a light cruiser after Garibaldi and Abruzzi. If the light cruiser stops at T7, the next researchable tier will be T8 heavy cruiser.


T8 ???? (CL)

Armament: (Theoretical)
10 or 12 - 152 mm (6 in)/ 55 guns (2 x 3 and 2 x 2) or (4 x 3)
8 - 100 mm (3.9 in)/ 45 guns (4 x 2)
?? - 40 mm (1.6 in) Bofors AA guns
?? - 20 mm (0.79 in) Oerlikon AA guns
6 - 533 mm (21 in) torpedo tubes (2 x 3)

Note: This design is only hypothetical, It is uncertain if there were plans or design succeeding the Garibaldi and Abruzzi. The next researchable tier will be T8 heavy cruiser.
Personal Opinion: This design is pure hypothetical and currently cannot find any historical design on this cruiser. If WG can find designs after Garibaldi and Abruzzi and can complete the light cruiser line, I am for it. But since I am unable to complete it through T10, I will stop at T8 and either wait for a plausible T9 and T10 design (like the Akizuki on pre 0.7.8) or merge to the heavy cruiser at T8 like the French Tech tree suggestion.


Heavy Cruiser Split 

T6 Trento (CA)

Armament:
8 - 203 mm (8 in)/ 50 guns (4 x 2)
16 - 100 mm (4 in)/ 47 guns (8 x 2)
8 - 37 mm (1.5 in)/ 54 AA guns (4 x 2)
8 - 13.2 mm (0.52 in) MG (8 x 1) 
8 - 533 mm (21 in) torpedo tubes (4 x 2)

Note: Italy's first heavy cruiser


T7 Bolzano (CA)

Armament:
8 - 203 mm (8 in)/ 53 guns (4 x 2)
16 - 100 mm (4 in)/ 47 guns (8 x 2)
4 - 40 mm (1.6)/39 guns Vickers-Terni (4 x 1)
8 - 13.2 mm (0.52 in) MG (8 x 1)
6 - 533 mm (21.0 in) torpedo tubes (2 x 3)

Note: Best of Trento and Pola Class


T7 Pola and/or Zara (CA) Premium? Armory?

Armament:
8 - 203 mm (8 in)/ 53 guns (4 x 2)
16 - 100 mm (4 in)/ 47 guns (8 x 2)
4 - 37 mm (1.5 in) / 39 AA guns  (2 x 2)
8 - 20 mm (0.79 in) MG (8 x 1)
6 - 533 mm (21.0 in) torpedo tubes (2 x 3)

Note: Improvement from Trento but not as improved as Bolzano


T8 ???? (CA)

Armament: (Theoretical)
10 - 203 mm (8 in)/ 53 guns (2 x 3 and 2 x 2)
?? - 100 mm (4 in)/ 47 guns
?? - 40 mm (1.6 in) AA guns
?? - 20 mm (0.79 in) AA guns
6 - 533 mm (21.0 in) torpedo tubes (2 x 3)

Note: Direct counter to Charles Martel
Personal Opinion: These are not historical and it is only my personal idea or opinion


T9 ???? (CA)

Armament: (Theoretical)
10 - 203 mm (8 in)/ 53 guns (2 x 3 and 2 x 2)
?? - 100 mm (4 in)/ 47 guns
?? - 40 mm (1.6 in) AA guns
?? - 20 mm (0.79 in) AA guns
6 - 533 mm (21.0 in) torpedo tubes (2 x 3)

Note: Direct counter to St. Louis (French St. Louis)
Personal Opinion: These are not historical and it is only my personal idea or opinion


10 ???? (CA)

Armament: (Theoretical)
12 - 203 mm (8 in) guns (4 x 3) or 10 - ??? mm (?? in) guns (2 x 3 and 2 x 2)
?? - 135 mm (5.3 in)/45 guns
?? - 76 mm (3 in)/ 62 AA guns
6 - 533 mm (21.0 in) torpedo tubes (2 x 3)

Note: Direct counter to Henry IV
Note: It is unknown if Italy has made plans for a larger calibre/caliber guns after 203 mm (8 in).
Note: If the guns are 203 mm (8 in), then the T10 heavy cruiser will have 12 guns. If there are guns larger than 203 mm (8 in), then the T10 heavy cruiser will have 10 guns (Andrea Doria, Guilio Cesare, Abruzzi configuration of 2 x 3 and 2 x 2).

Personal Opinion: These are not historical and it is only my personal idea or opinion


Finally the Destroyers.

Full details in the few days. Sorry if it was a while to update.

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Finally the Destroyers "aka Loliboats"

T2 Indomito "1915 refit"

Armament:
5 - 102 mm (4 in)/35 (5 x 1)
4 - 450 mm (17.7 in) torpedo tubes (2 x 2)

Note: Original armament is too few and too puny, hence went with the 1915 refit version.


T3 Rosolino Pilo "1919 refit"

Armament:
5 - 102 mm (4 in)/35 guns (5 x 1)
6 - 76mm (3 in)/40 AA (6 x 1)
2 - 40 mm (1.6 in)/39 pom-pom AA (2 x 1)
4 - 450 mm (17.7 in) torpedo tubes (2 x 2)

Note: Original armament is  too puny, hence went with the 1919 refit version.


T4 Audace 

Armament:
7 - 102 mm (4.0 in)/35 guns (7 x 1)
4 - 40 mm (1.6 in)/39 pom-pom AA guns (2 x 2)
4 - 450 mm (17.7 in) torpedo tubes (2 x 2)

Note: Although it is stated that she has 7 guns, she can only fire 5 guns on a single broad side.


T5 Mirabello

Armament:
1916
8 - 102 mm (4.0 in) /35 guns (8 x 1)

1920 
8 - 102 mm (4.0 in) /45 guns (8 x 1)
4 - 20 mm (0.79 in) AA (4 x 1)
4 - 450 mm (18 in) torpedo tubes (2 × 2)

Note: Although it is stated that she has 8 guns, she can only fire 5 guns on a single broad side.


T6 Falco

Armament:
1939:
5 - 120 mm (4.7 in) guns (2 x 2, 1 x 1)
4 - 76 mm (3 in) AA guns (4 x 1)
4 - 457 mm (18 in) torpedo tubes (2 × 2)

1942: (Possible hull B)
4 × 120 mm (4.7 in) guns (2 x 2)
2 - 76 mm (3 in) AA guns (2 x 1)
2 - 37 mm (1.5 in) AA guns (2 x 1)
4 - 20 mm (0.79 in) Oerlikon AA guns (4 x 1)
4 - 457 mm (18 in) torpedo tubes (2 × 2)

Note: This ships were eventually sold to Romaina. See Romanian Destroyers Marasti Class and Regele Ferdinand Class.
Note: Her 1942 upgrade is almost similar to Hatsuharu's Hull B.


T7 Navigatory

Armament:
6 - 120 mm (4.7 in)/50 guns (3 × 2)
2 - 37 mm (1.5 in) guns (2 × 1)
8 - 13.2 mm (0.52 in) MG (8 x 1)
6 - 533 mm (21 in) torpedo tubes (2 x 3)


Italian Built Guns
These are ships that would have been built, if Italy did not fall too early.

T8 Comandanti Medaglie d'Oro

Armament:
4 - 135 mm (5.3 in) guns (2 × 2)
12 - 37 mm (1.5 in)/54 AA guns (6 × 2)
6 - 533 mm (21 in) torpedo tubes (2 x 3)


T9 Etna (135 mm)

Armament:
6 - 135 mm (5.3 in)/45 guns (3 x 2)
10 - 65 mm (2.6 in)/64 AA guns (10 x 1)
20 - 20 mm (1 in)/65 AA guns (10 x 2)
8 × 533 mm (21 in) torpedo tubes (2 x 4)

Note: 
Note: AA guns can be reduced to compensate
Note: This ship has an identity crisis. Although Italy labelled her as a "Cruiser", she is infact a "Large destroyer". The same with the P.43 in WOT (Labelled as a Heavy Tank , but performs as a Medium Tank).
Note: She was essentially designed to outrun and outgun the large new French destroyers of the Le Fantasque and Mogador classes.


T10 Attilio Regolo " Capitani Romani"

Armament:
8 - 135 mm (5.3 in)/ 45 guns (4 x 2)
10 - 65 mm (2.6 in)/64 AA guns (10 x 1)
20 × 20 mm (0.79 in)/65 AA guns (10 x 2)
8 × 533 mm (21 in) torpedo tubes (2 x 4)

Note:
Note: AA guns can be reduced to compensate
Note: This ship has an identity crisis. Although Italy labelled her as a "Cruiser", she is infact a "Large destroyer". The same with the P.43 in WOT (Labelled as a Heavy Tank , but performs as a Medium Tank).
Note: She was essentially designed to outrun and outgun the large new French destroyers of the Le Fantasque and Mogador classes.


American Assisted Built Guns
Since Italy fell, ships were continued to be built but main guns were supplied by the US

T8 Impetuoso 

Armament:
4 - 127 mm (5 in) guns (2 × 2)
12 - 40 mm (1.6 in) Bofors AA Guns (2 x 4, 2 x 2)
6 - 533 mm (21 in) torpedo tubes (2 x 3)

Note: Completed from the incmplete Comandanti Medaglie d'Oro hull after the fall of Italy.
Note: Insted of the 3.3 sec reload of the Gearing, she will get the 4.0 sec reload. (WG can reduce her to 3.3 sec if they see it fit).


T9 Etna (127 mm)

Armament:
6 - 127 mm (5 in)/45 guns (3 x 2)
10 - 76 mm (3 in)/50 AA guns (10 x 1)
20 - 20 mm (1 in)/65 AA guns (10 x 2)
8 × 533 mm (21 in) torpedo tubes (2 x 4)

Note: AA guns can be reduced to compensate.
Note: This ship has an identity crisis. Although Italy labelled her as a "Cruiser", she is infact a "Large destroyer". The same with the P.43 in WOT (Labelled as a Heavy Tank , but performs as a Medium Tank).
Note: Originally, she was essentially designed to outrun and outgun the large new French destroyers of the Le Fantasque and Mogador classes, but due to the "Fall of Italy" her main armament is now supplied by the US.
Note: Insted of the 3.3 sec reload of the Gearing, she will get the 4.0 sec reload. (WG can reduce her to 3.3 sec if they see it fit).


T10 San Giorgio / San Marco

Armament:
8 - 127 mm (5 in)/45 guns (4 x 2)
10 - 76 mm (3 in)/50 AA guns (10 x 1)
20 - 20 mm (1 in)/65 AA guns (10 x 2)
8 × 533 mm (21 in) torpedo tubes (2 x 4)

Note: Completed from the incmplete Attilio Regolo " Capitani Romani" after the fall of Italy.
Note: AA guns can be reduced to compensate.
Note: This ship has an identity crisis. Although Italy labelled her as a "Cruiser", she is infact a "Large destroyer". The same with the P.43 in WOT (Labelled as a Heavy Tank , but performs as a Medium Tank).
Note: Originally, she was essentially designed to outrun and outgun the large new French destroyers of the Le Fantasque and Mogador classes, but due to the "Fall of Italy" her main armament is now supplied by the US.
Note: Insted of the 3.3 sec reload of the Gearing, she will get the 4.0 sec reload. (WG can reduce her to 3.3 sec if they see it fit).


I know some of the suggested ships may not make it as WG will put other ships that were not available in the books or internet, but I am sure they are working on to complete the full Italian tech tree.


And here ends the suggestions details. That was a long one. Please let me know if I have missed any ship details in the suggestion list. Or if you feel that some ships are not in the right tier, please let me know.
And please WG, please consider this request. Thank you.

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