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Commonwealth of Nations Destroyer Tech Tree Suggestion

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Hi Wargameing Dev team,

While playing the UK destroyer line it got me thinking, the Commonwealth of Nations fought along side with the British during WW2 in both Atlantic and Pacific theater. And after looking around the internet, I found that it is possible to create a Commonwealth of Nations destroyer line like the Pan-Asia destroyer line.

Commonwealth of Nations playstyle/gimmik is the "Creeping Smoke Generator" and the "Individual Torpedo Launch" (Haida and Perth), where as Pan-Asia is "Deep Water Torpedo".
The playstyle almost mirrors British DD, smoke, harrass, torp, flee. Almost. But if wargameing has other ideas to make the playstyle unique, I welcome it.

Here is what I have come up with when looking around the internet:

CA/CL
T1 Swan (AU) -> (Grimsby Class)
Note: Its T1

DD Line
T2 Champlain (CA) -> HMS Torbay (S Class, T Class)
Close to HMS Medea

T3 Vancouver (CA) -> HMS Vimy (V Class, W Class)
Mirrors HMS Valkyrie

T4 Waterhen (AU) -> HMS Waterhen (V Class, W Class)
Mirrors HMS Wakeful

T5 Saguenay (CA) -> (A Class, B Class)
Mirrors HMS Acasta

T6 Ottowa (CA) -> HMS Griffin (G Class, H Class)
Mirrors HMS Galant

T7 Napier (AU) -> (J Class, K Class, N Class)
Mirrors HMS Jervis

T8 Iroquoise (CA) or Ananta (AU) -> ("Tribal" Class)
Mirrors HMCA Haida
Note: Armed with 6 120 mm guns insted of 8 of the Cossack

T9 Anzac (AU) -> ("Battle" Class)
Mirrors HMS Jutland

T10 Voyager (AU) -> (Daring Class)
Mirrors HMS Daring
Note: HMAS Vampire already used in T3 and Voyager sounds nice compared to Vampire and Vendetta (Personal Opinion). Like the Voyager satellite. Maybe they can do a unique Camo after space battles. 🙂


T9 Anzac and T10 Voyager guns are too small to do some real damage. In my British Tech Tree Suggestion, I requested for T9 Jutland and T10 Daring be having the option to equip 133 mm (5.25 in guns), or split them as another class with 133 mm (5.25 in) guns installed as default. I would like to see T9 Anzac and T10 Voyager have the same treatment. Either have a 133 mm (5.25 in) guns be optional equipment or have a separate ship with 133 mm (5.25 in) guns as default.

 

Possible premium ships.
T6 Leander (NZ) -> HMS Leander (Leander Class) - CL
Mirrors HMS Leander

T6 Ontario or Quebec (CA) -> HMS Valiant (Queen Elizabeth Class) - BB
Mirrors HMS Warspite
Note: She was never built, but when Canada plans to build her, she would look line Queen Elizabeth in her 2nd refit in 1926 (with 1 smoke stack but retains the original bridge and secondary armaments of 6 in guns)
Note: Although unconfirmed, Australia also plans to procure some Queen Elizabeth class battleships of their own. She would look line Queen Elizabeth in her 2nd refit in 1926 (with 1 smoke stack but retains the original bridge and secondary armaments of 6 in guns)

Personal opinion: Due to the success of both Queen Elizabeth Class and Bayern Class, Pan America (Brazil, Argentina, Chile and possibly Peru) and Pan Europe (Spain and Netherlands) planned to procure their own battleships based on both British and German designs. It would  be a common sight to see these ships in T6 plays with their own twists and gimmicks.


Foot Note:
CA = Canada
AU = Australia
NZ = New Zealand

I hope that you like this suggestion and let me know if I have missed other DD that might mirror them in their respective tiers.

Edited by S0und_Theif
Remove T7 Premium. Adding them to incomplete cruiser tech tree

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Brilliant!  I play on the Asian server and we definitely need these lines of ships.   Even something prototype for bigger tiers so we can have something to call our own in this game!  :cap_cool: 

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Adding incomplete set of light and heavy cruisers for Commonwealth of Nations.
Its the best I can dig up with what I have. Maybe WG have blue prints for T8 to T10 that the public do not know.


T2 Niobe (CA)

Armament:
16 - 6 in (152 mm) guns (16 x 1)
14 - 12 pdr (76 mm) guns (14 x 1)
3 - 3 pdr (47 mm) guns (3 x 1)
2 - 18 in (460 mm) torpedo tubes (2 x 1)


T3 Encounter (AU)

Armament:
11 - 6 in (152 mm) guns (11 x 1)
9 - 12 pdr (76 mm) guns (9 x 1)
6 - 3 pdr (47 mm) guns (6 x 1)
3 - 0.303 (7.7 mm) machine guns (3 x 1)
2 - 18 in (460 mm) torpedo tubes (2 x 1)


T4 Melbourne (AU)

Armament:
8 - 6 in (152 mm) guns (8 x 1)
2 - 3 in (76 mm ) guns (2 x 1)
3 - 0.303 (7.7 mm) machine guns (3 x 1)
2 - 21 inch (533 mm) torpedo tubes (2 x 1)


T5 ????

Armament:
????

Note: No Data. Need Input


T6 Hobart (AU)

Armament:
8 - 6 in (152 mm) guns (4 x 2)
8 - 4 in (102 mm) guns (4 x 2)
4 - 3 pdr (47 mm) guns (4 x 1)
8 - 21 in (533 mm) torpedo tubes (2 x 4)

Note: Perth and Sydney sister
Note: Modified Leander


T7 Gambia (NZ)

Armament:
12 - 6 in (152 mm) guns (4 x 3)
8 - 4 in (102 mm) guns (4 x 2)
8 - 2 pdr (40 mm) guns (2 x 4)
6 - 21 in (533 mm) torpedo tubes (2 x 3)

Note: Crown Colony Class


T8 ????

Armament:
????

Note: No Data. Need Input


T9 ????

Armament:
????

Note: No Data. Need Input


T10 ????

Armament:
????

Note: No Data. Need Input


Heavy Cruiser Branch
T7 Canberra (AU)

Armament:
8 - 8 in (203 mm) guns (4 x 2)
4 - 4.7 in (119 mm) guns (4 x 1)
4 - 2 pdr (40 mm) AA guns (4 x 1)
4 - 3 pdr (47 mm) AA guns (4 x 1)
8 - 21 in (533 mm) torpedo tubes (2 x 4)

Note: Based on British Heavy Cruiser Town Class


T8 ????

Armament:
????

Note: No Data. Need Input


T9 ????

Armament:
????

Note: No Data. Need Input


T10 ????

Armament:
????

Note: No Data. Need Input

 

Nation Legend:
CA = Canada
AU = Australia
NZ = New Zealand

Edited by S0und_Theif
Adding Heavy Cruiser Branch

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On ‎6‎/‎20‎/‎2019 at 1:52 AM, S0und_Theif said:

Nation Legend:
CA = Canada
AU = Australia
NZ = New Zealand

probably could add India to this list, they might have had a dhow or two back then?

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13 hours ago, Otago_F111 said:

probably could add India to this list, they might have had a dhow or two back then?

There were CL and DD's that Britain have given to India, Pakistan, South Africa, and many others in the British Empire. Most of them were around T6 and T7, one or two T4 and one T9 for Pakistan. Most of the said classes were also given to Canada, Australia, and New Zealand.

On one hand, yes, India and Pakistan are both counted as part of Commonwealth of Nations. On the other hand, India and Pakistan also may serve in Pan-Asia.
Its only either WG will have put them in the creeping smoke or deep water torpedo or better "both". They may be sold as premiums. The question is which faction they will represent? Commonwealth of Nation or Pan-Asia?

Now that you mentioned it, will there be a Pan-African navy? Possible 12th faction?

Edited by S0und_Theif

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