661 [FOF] Big_Black_Hawk Member 1,701 posts 25,539 battles Report post #1 Posted December 3, 2018 1.If you play DD above T5,do remember put on type 1 camo(-3% detectablity),pick Survivability Expert and Concealment Expert commander skill.T8+ DD should pick Cocealment Modification 1.This is the distance between life and death.7500 credits is nothing compared with the extra credits you can gain. 2.If you play Yamato/Iowa/Montana/Moskva/Minotaur,never show broadside to enemy.I know you wanna fire more guns,but stay alive first. 3.Don't just climb up a single line from T1-T10.Without knowledge of all kinds of ships,you'll have very bad performance and game experience. 4.As a DD,never hide behind BB and torp.You'll hit nothing except TK friendly BB. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
661 [FOF] Big_Black_Hawk Member 1,701 posts 25,539 battles Report post #2 Posted December 3, 2018 Why I wanna write this thread?Because this is what I've seen this week....... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5,166 [CLAY] Max_Battle Beta Tester 6,508 posts 38,951 battles Report post #3 Posted December 3, 2018 15 minutes ago, User_1145141919810 said: Why I wanna write this thread?Because this is what I've seen this week....... I feel your pain. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
711 [KAMI] Gummiheng Member 1,707 posts 16,180 battles Report post #4 Posted December 3, 2018 I doubt most of the new player wont even come to forum the first place.. We need in-game tutorial not some introductory video that is on Youtube or ingame tips..for starters 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
423 dieselhead Member 1,212 posts 11,077 battles Report post #5 Posted December 3, 2018 1 minute ago, Gummilicious said: I doubt most of the new player wont even come to forum the first place.. We need in-game tutorial not some introductory video that is on Youtube or ingame tips..for starters There is absolutely NO reason to even suggest this, It's been suggested god knows how many times and WG in their infinite wisdom have done nothing about it. Clearly it's a non issue(sarcasm) and WG time is much better spent releasing perfectly balanced ships(more sarcasm) while nerfing current ships that obviously need it...cough YY...cough(yet more sarcasm). 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
165 [POI] Darkworld_2015 Member 978 posts 11,735 battles Report post #6 Posted December 3, 2018 7 minutes ago, Gummilicious said: I doubt most of the new player wont even come to forum the first place.. We need in-game tutorial not some introductory video that is on Youtube or ingame tips..for starters I guess this also served as a purpose for OP to vent out some frustration.. I feel him though, yesterday was very bad, really really bad.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5,166 [CLAY] Max_Battle Beta Tester 6,508 posts 38,951 battles Report post #7 Posted December 3, 2018 Weekend play. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1 [S_X_S] cheng_matthew Member 2 posts 7,025 battles Report post #8 Posted December 3, 2018 I see why new players won't come, I've only discovered this forum now and I don't think I'm such a new player anymore.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1 [S_X_S] cheng_matthew Member 2 posts 7,025 battles Report post #9 Posted December 3, 2018 41 minutes ago, User_1145141919810 said: 1.If you play DD above T5,do remember put on type 1 camo(-3% detectablity),pick Survivability Expert and Concealment Expert commander skill.T8+ DD should pick Cocealment Modification 1.This is the distance between life and death.7500 credits is nothing compared with the extra credits you can gain. 2.If you play Yamato/Iowa/Montana/Moskva/Minotaur,never show broadside to enemy.I know you wanna fire more guns,but stay alive first. 3.Don't just climb up a single line from T1-T10.Without knowledge of all kinds of ships,you'll have very bad performance and game experience. 4.As a DD,never hide behind BB and torp.You'll hit nothing except TK friendly BB. I don't think a new player would have a T10 BB or CA, And I think that ALL cruisers should not show their side to the enemy unless if they want to be deleted 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
576 Bex_o7 Member 746 posts 19,634 battles Report post #10 Posted December 3, 2018 (edited) Bad gamers are everywhere but they get exposed in WoWS more than in other online MP titles. There is no respawn, no way to correct a bad call, no possibility to re-ship; once you've screwed up you're done and it's on to the next game. It casts a magnifying glass on bad players that might otherwise have thought themselves competent. Edited December 3, 2018 by Bex_o7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
587 [-CAT-] Sharr_Dextera Member 997 posts 14,261 battles Report post #11 Posted December 3, 2018 (edited) Yolo DD rush, random torping, crying for support/ help while overextended into enemy teritory (even while clearly nobody can help), Ramming at full health that even amazed craziest klingon, broadsiding to suicidal level... Another weekend on WoWs... Edited December 3, 2018 by Sharr_Dextera 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
398 [-ISO-] mr_glitchy_R Member 1,152 posts 7,775 battles Report post #12 Posted December 3, 2018 3 hours ago, cheng_matthew said: I don't think a new player would have a T10 BB or CA, And I think that ALL cruisers should not show their side to the enemy unless if they want to be deleted They may not. But they will use their money to buy some high tier premiums. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
398 [-ISO-] mr_glitchy_R Member 1,152 posts 7,775 battles Report post #13 Posted December 3, 2018 Problem is that there are simply too many wallet warrior in the game. They just waste their money to buy some premium stuff. I suppose WG should limit the premium shop by the player's level. Because having a good ship doesn't mean OP if you didn't know how to use it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
661 [FOF] Big_Black_Hawk Member 1,701 posts 25,539 battles Report post #14 Posted December 3, 2018 1 小時前,mr_glitchy_R 說: Problem is that there are simply too many wallet warrior in the game. They just waste their money to buy some premium stuff. I suppose WG should limit the premium shop by the player's level. Because having a good ship doesn't mean OP if you didn't know how to use it. No,worse than wallet warrior,BOT warrior/worse-than-BOT warrior are more than that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5,166 [CLAY] Max_Battle Beta Tester 6,508 posts 38,951 battles Report post #15 Posted December 3, 2018 8 hours ago, Sharr_Dextera said: Ramming at full health that even amazed craziest klingon, 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,564 [CLAY] Grygus_Triss Member 4,178 posts 18,617 battles Report post #16 Posted December 4, 2018 13 hours ago, Gummilicious said: I doubt most of the new player wont even come to forum the first place.. We need in-game tutorial not some introductory video that is on Youtube or ingame tips..for starters The few new players that come here, and ask questions, are usually roasted by the other commenters. It’s a very hostile place for new commenters. Especially if you ask the “wrong” question. If you genuinely want help, phrase it as “how do I play this ship?” Or, “How do I deal with this?” And do a quick search of the forums first to see if it’s been mentioned before. If there are dozens of similar threads on the subject AVOID IT AT ALL COST. If a thread devolves into a meme fest, abandon it. And be aware that most of the commenters here come to complain or meme (can you use meme as a verb?). But if you sound genuine, you likely will get a few who will give advice. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,564 [CLAY] Grygus_Triss Member 4,178 posts 18,617 battles Report post #17 Posted December 4, 2018 13 hours ago, User_1145141919810 said: 1.If you play DD above T5,do remember put on type 1 camo(-3% detectablity),pick Survivability Expert and Concealment Expert commander skill.T8+ DD should pick Cocealment Modification 1.This is the distance between life and death.7500 credits is nothing compared with the extra credits you can gain. 2.If you play Yamato/Iowa/Montana/Moskva/Minotaur,never show broadside to enemy.I know you wanna fire more guns,but stay alive first. 3.Don't just climb up a single line from T1-T10.Without knowledge of all kinds of ships,you'll have very bad performance and game experience. 4.As a DD,never hide behind BB and torp.You'll hit nothing except TK friendly BB. 1. Agreed, though some torp boats may be able to get away without survivability expert, but that said, it’s still a good idea for competitive play. 2. In general, ALL ships should avoid showing broadside to enemy. It hurts, even if not a citadel. 3. You don’t even have to climb that far, up to T5 or 6 will give you a rough idea of other ships capabilities,watching vids can help to. I’ve often found it very easy to go against a ship I’ve played myself, as I know it’s weaknesses. 4. BBs need to be careful here too, If a DD it within about 7 km of an enemy, you have to ask, “is it really a good idea for me to engage at point blank range?” As a DD is unlikely to get closer than its detection range. I know I’ve missed out on torp kills because a BB decides to engage another BB at point blank range, and then dies. And I can’t fire torps for fear of hitting him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5,166 [CLAY] Max_Battle Beta Tester 6,508 posts 38,951 battles Report post #18 Posted December 4, 2018 18 minutes ago, Grygus_Triss said: If you genuinely want help, phrase it as “how do I play this ship?” Or, “How do I deal with this?” Yup. Specific questions may get specific answers. 20 minutes ago, Grygus_Triss said: If a thread devolves into a meme fest, abandon it. Or join in. Your call 😛 20 minutes ago, Grygus_Triss said: And be aware that most of the commenters here come to <snip> meme (can you use meme as a verb?). But if you sound genuine, you likely will get a few who will give advice. *Puts hand up* Aye sir. Guilty. But seriously, I have asked many questions on this forum and received good advice on many occasions. If someone asks a question I am confident about, I will answer as directly as I can - or more likely, wait and see if someone more knowledgeable comes up with a better answer. "There's always a bigger fish" In the memetime, please enjoy this goat. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,412 [SMOKE] Mechfori Member 4,466 posts 24,795 battles Report post #19 Posted December 4, 2018 Bad player exist on all games , but on WOWS, its also exposing bad team play .. and that not limiting to bad players, but also players who are even capable ones. Playing good with a ship is one thing, playing good as a team is another, and playing good at playing with others is yet another one. More than often its the latter that ruin a game. So many time I've seen CA turn theirs around and flee even with good health simply because enemy fired upon and then leaving their BB / DD teammate on the front, or BB that would not come up to the front to engage enemy BB at range that they can actually inflict damage .. or CV who keep sending plane to where its not needed, or DD that sail around seemingly doing whatever only that players know. In fact I had to admit sometime even myself got into this bad behavior. It take a lot of games, and a lot of self control to be able to suppress the urge to rush, to go, to flee or to ( add your own ) but learn to see the larger picture and staying on top and act accordingly. In many cases these involve not actually able to farm more damage , not getting more credit on the player himself / herself and this is of course a choice one had to made whichever way 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5,166 [CLAY] Max_Battle Beta Tester 6,508 posts 38,951 battles Report post #20 Posted December 4, 2018 10 hours ago, Max_Battle said: FOR WORF!!!!!!! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5,166 [CLAY] Max_Battle Beta Tester 6,508 posts 38,951 battles Report post #21 Posted December 4, 2018 3 hours ago, Mechfori said: Bad player exist on all games , but on WOWS, its also exposing bad team play .. and that not limiting to bad players, but also players who are even capable ones. Playing good with a ship is one thing, playing good as a team is another, and playing good at playing with others is yet another one. More than often its the latter that ruin a game. So many time I've seen CA turn theirs around and flee even with good health simply because enemy fired upon and then leaving their BB / DD teammate on the front, or BB that would not come up to the front to engage enemy BB at range that they can actually inflict damage .. or CV who keep sending plane to where its not needed, or DD that sail around seemingly doing whatever only that players know. In fact I had to admit sometime even myself got into this bad behavior. It take a lot of games, and a lot of self control to be able to suppress the urge to rush, to go, to flee or to ( add your own ) but learn to see the larger picture and staying on top and act accordingly. In many cases these involve not actually able to farm more damage , not getting more credit on the player himself / herself and this is of course a choice one had to made whichever way I just watched an Indi and an Aoba broadside to each other for several volleys. About 2kays away. Firing HE. FIRING HE BROADSIDE... *sob* 203mm AP shells were crying... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
587 [-CAT-] Sharr_Dextera Member 997 posts 14,261 battles Report post #22 Posted December 4, 2018 56 minutes ago, Max_Battle said: FOR WORF!!!!!!! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
398 [-ISO-] mr_glitchy_R Member 1,152 posts 7,775 battles Report post #23 Posted December 5, 2018 On 12/4/2018 at 3:39 PM, Max_Battle said: I just watched an Indi and an Aoba broadside to each other for several volleys. About 2kays away. Firing HE. FIRING HE BROADSIDE... Let's be positive here. Maybe they were forgot that they weren't using British BB. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5,166 [CLAY] Max_Battle Beta Tester 6,508 posts 38,951 battles Report post #24 Posted December 5, 2018 7 hours ago, mr_glitchy_R said: Let's be positive here. Maybe they were forgot that they weren't using British BB. Ha ha. Ok, sure 😛 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites