As a yueyang player

[apollozues]

I just wondering do I could win a tier 8 Japanese destroyer after tomorrow update if I use yueyang?

[keskparane]

Why would you think that?

[apollozues]

14 minutes ago, keskparane said:

Why would you think that?

either they shoot more or they have more damage

[keskparane]

Ah ok. Your meaning got lost in translation. Depends on the player but id expect to win with a YY vs T8 IJN

[PeterMoe1963]

2 hours ago, apollozues said:

just wondering do I could win a tier 8 Japanese destroyer after tomorrow update if I use yueyang?

I guess you mean “win against”?

T8 IJN translates Akizuki, Kagero, Asashio and HSF Harekaze. A T10 gunboat like Yueyang should be able to take on all of these in a one-on-one. No guarantees, though.

Now sure what the update has to do with it?

[HobartAWD]

2 hours ago, PeterMoe1963 said:

I guess you mean “win against”?

T8 IJN translates Akizuki, Kagero, Asashio and HSF Harekaze. A T10 gunboat like Yueyang should be able to take on all of these in a one-on-one. No guarantees, though.

Now sure what the update has to do with it?

Because Yue Yang is getting a big nerf in 7.11. Gun reload goes from 3 to 4 sec. Torp reload from 136 to 156 sec.

Hence the reason he was asking how the "new" YY will stack up against T8 IJN DD.

In a gunboat build it should still go ok against IJN DDs.

[Rina_Pon]

IJN DD guns are also getting a buff, HE damage increase iirc. Not sure if that change is due in 7.11 or postponed till later though.

[sunlo2013]

Wait till radar delay change, then yueyang will become completely unless. 

 

[Moggytwo]

Poor Yue Yang.  The number one DD in clan battles because radar on a DD is OP, and instead of nerfing the radar they nerf the gun and torp dpm massively.

Now she'll almost never be used in randoms, but remains the best DD for CB's.  Why?  Because they nerfed the wrong thing! 

Just remove the radar and revert the nerfs WG.  PA DD's should have never got radar in the first place.

On a slightly different note regarding DD guns, Yugumo and Shima currently have 113k dpm, YY 216k.  Tomorrow that changes to Yugi/Shima 136k, YY 162k dpm. 

[dejiko_nyo]

Which would make chung mu the best of her line at tier NINE.

[Moggytwo]

23 minutes ago, dejiko_nyo said:

Which would make chung mu the best of her line at tier NINE.

Chung Mu will be straight up better than Yue Yang tomorrow.

Concealment - CM 5.66km, YY 5.81km.

Guns - CM and YY both will have 162k HE DPM, CM has slightly longer range and much faster turret traverse speed.

Maneuverability - same turning circle, CM 39.9kts, 3.9s rudder; YY 38.3kts, 3.1s rudder.

Health - CM 20.3k, YY 22.0k.

Torps - CM does 19k damage, 81s c/d, 10.5k range, 66kts, 395% flood chance; YY 18k damage, 119s c/d, 13.5k range, 68kts, 368% flood chance.

 

Now tell me, regardless of what tier you are sailing, which ship would you rather take out?

[icy_phoenix]

Even Fletcher shoots 1 more shell per minute than to-be YY (both in stock configuration).

[dejiko_nyo]

1 hour ago, Moggytwo said:

Now tell me, regardless of what tier you are sailing, which ship would you rather take out?

And then to make YY look like a better ship, they will nerf chung mu. But seriously, playing as a non-panasia dd against YY, you don't feel fear because you know he cannot torp you while you can. Instead of fixing a problem, WG decided to introduce more broken problems to fix a broken problem. Bravo.

[dieselhead]

2 hours ago, Moggytwo said:

Poor Yue Yang.  The number one DD in clan battles because radar on a DD is OP, and instead of nerfing the radar they nerf the gun and torp dpm massively.

Now she'll almost never be used in randoms, but remains the best DD for CB's.  Why?  Because they nerfed the wrong thing! 

Just remove the radar and revert the nerfs WG.  PA DD's should have never got radar in the first place.

On a slightly different note regarding DD guns, Yugumo and Shima currently have 113k dpm, YY 216k.  Tomorrow that changes to Yugi/Shima 136k, YY 162k dpm. 

Then they may as well remove hydro as well. I personally don't think YY is OP(not that I agree with radar on DD's) even with radar as the lack of DD torping potential is a major setback.

Lost count of the amount off DD's Ive torped in other DD's.

20sec radar is good in cap but unless your team is on point with focus fire and you yourself don't have to fire, killing the enemy DD isn't a sure thing.

After said 20second radar you are back to hunting that same DD without the aid of torps that can hit him or flush him out from hiding.

I'm thinking Unique Gearing for CW this season for longer smoke, good torps, good guns and great concealment.