How to avoid trolls?

[Puggsley]

So I press battle, and enter a game where two [content removed] in a division (one CV and one DD, same clan) shoot me as soon as the game starts.

The CV follows me everywhere I go, rubbing against my ship and triggering the warning system. I'm playing a BB so cannot escape from him.

Am pissed off but to hell with it. Shoot some enemies, and then he decides to swap sides and position himself in front of my guns. I'm in sniper mode so don't notice this and he gets hit with my next salvo.

At this stage the DD has 58 health and runs back to me and starts rubbing against my ship until he dies. 

I turn pink and get insta-deathed as a warning about doing team damage.

Submit replay to support about unsporting behaviour and get cut and paste reply about people being punished for doing team damage.

 

How to proceed or is this just a suck it up moment and they know how to game the system?

[icy_phoenix]

Do you have replays enabled? If so, send a ticket to support for misconduct along with the replay file.

[Anger_Lehner]

Thats sad. Whats even sadder is that you have to carry pink status for next few games instead of the troll div.And the saddest part is that WG will not do anything about punishing the real culprits. 

[Big_Black_Hawk]

Replay+Ticket

[LawrenceXVIII]

If you have a mod called :

https://na.wargaming.net/support/en/products/wows/article/19060/

 

Give this to the mod in Ticket.

[Lowyat]

Last time i took a bunch of screenshots of griefers and send tickets after on the second match as they acted and they were the same guys in div as the previous match. WG responded by saying action has been taken. I wasn't on the receiving end luckily but the first match made me confused as who was the griefers as they were chatting as if the other innocent guy was the offender since i was busy looking at the enemy.

[LordTyphoon]

To be honest it's your responsibility to check your mini-map before you fire. It's like you rear ending a car in front of you and you try to blame that car for stopping too fast. 

You get insta-deathed only of you have done TK damage prior to teamkilling. You don't insta death for sudden team kills. I have done that myself before and stayed alive. This means that you must have been guilty of shooting back and doing team damage as well. 

Now we kinda understand why you don't want to supply a replay...

[dejiko_nyo]

If you get team shot on purpose, refrain from firing back. If they continue to do so, supply replay. That is why I have replays on by default. You never know when it will be useful. 

[Lowyat]

1 hour ago, LordTyphoon said:

To be honest it's your responsibility to check your mini-map before you fire. It's like you rear ending a car in front of you and you try to blame that car for stopping too fast. 

You get insta-deathed only of you have done TK damage prior to teamkilling. You don't insta death for sudden team kills. I have done that myself before and stayed alive. This means that you must have been guilty of shooting back and doing team damage as well. 

Now we kinda understand why you don't want to supply a replay...

i think op is referring to push and block allies. its even has a ticket path of its own

[Pocket_Fox]

Sorta odd you need to enable replays with a different .exe and it's not just in the standard game selection.

I enabled replays after a few trolls traded blows the other day and threw a game just to spite one another.

 

Meanwhile the rest of us paid $$ or used camo/flags we earned and lost them due to baby's fighting.

[Bex_o7]

I once joined a game in the Aigle after finishing the marathon for it. I was pink at the time and from the outset of the game, this douche has it in for me. Telling my team mates not to support me, wailing on me for buying a ship you can get for free [even though I had completed the marathon *shrugs*] so I just took some screen shots and convo'd his clan leader. Clan leader promptly booted him. Justice served, WG intervention not needed.

[PeterMoe1963]

18 hours ago, Puggsley said:

Submit replay to support about unsporting behaviour and get cut and paste reply about people being punished for doing team damage.

Submit the replay and hopefully that gets them banned.

I don’t think that in all cases there is a cut&paste reply with no further action on WG’s side. At least on one occasion, I had my chat disable “because of complaints”.I got quite angry with another player and used bad language the day before.

If you retaliated and fired at that CV, you are not better than they are, IMO. A replay would show that.

[PeterMoe1963]

16 hours ago, LordTyphoon said:

To be honest it's your responsibility to check your mini-map before you fire.

 

 

Well, it takes two to tango. If one idiot doesn’t look and drives his ship in front of the guns of another idiot who doesn’t look, both are equally to blame, IMO.

In the heat of a battle, these things can happen. However, the OP’s report sounds like that was no accident, but intent.

I find that in operations ships often scrape against each other, especially in the escort type missions. I guess why there is no team-kill penalty in operations.

[Puggsley]

23 hours ago, icy_phoenix said:

Do you have replays enabled? If so, send a ticket to support for misconduct along with the replay file.

Yes i did and sent the replay in with the ticket.

Just got the autoreply.

[Puggsley]

22 hours ago, LordTyphoon said:

To be honest it's your responsibility to check your mini-map before you fire. It's like you rear ending a car in front of you and you try to blame that car for stopping too fast. 

You get insta-deathed only of you have done TK damage prior to teamkilling. You don't insta death for sudden team kills. I have done that myself before and stayed alive. This means that you must have been guilty of shooting back and doing team damage as well. 

Now we kinda understand why you don't want to supply a replay...

No I did submit the replay. I will put up the replay on wows replays tonight and supply link.

My last team damage was a few weeks ago while I was learning cv's and torped an ally while i got fixated on managing bombers.

As i said they shot me from the outset, then continually rammed me. I tried to evade but cv>>bb in the nimble stakes. This must have gone on for 3 or 4 minutes before the low health dd came back and did the same thing until he died.

The only time i did gunnery damage was when i fired at a target I had been firing at while he was ramming me. He was on port side so I had clear shots then he reversed and came along the starboard side. It was not a sudden team kill at all. The dd fought until he was about 60 hp, then raced back across teh map and ran into me on the first pass until he had about 5 health left, then just ran into me.

 

[icy_phoenix]

5 minutes ago, Puggsley said:

Yes i did and sent the replay in with the ticket.

Just got the autoreply.

Honestly, for me though, I simply forget about these incidents after the battle is over. Being ST, we face jealous players all the time, got used to it.

[Puggsley]

Its kinda like tanks. :)

I don't mind getting hit by accident, or even shot once by my allies. Years of WoT has dulled my senses to nuisance team damage. If they shoot me twice then I might shoot back and track them. In a really bad case I might even kill them but because i do so little team damage and a huge amount of enemy damage, I can shoot them 3 times and get a kill without triggering the ban. I might turn blue (pink) for 2 games maybe. That bad case is maybe once in 5k games. 

It was the minutes of being chased all over the map by the cv when i could do nothing about it, and then the dd running back to ensure he caused his own death by ramming me which got my goat. In WoT that is not a problem because the faster moving tank is considered to be the one responsible for the damage.

ST? Super Terrific?

[icy_phoenix]

Just now, Puggsley said:

ST? Super Terrific?

Its says under my forum icon, in blue.

[Puggsley]

[RalphTheTheatreCat]

9 minutes ago, icy_phoenix said:

Its says under my forum icon, in blue.

Being TKed is life.

[Sparcie]

In short you can't avoid trolls, just try not to feed them. They're looking for a reaction, anger generally, don't give them that.

That particular case sounds pretty bad, the only thing I can think of is to play dead (all stop no activity) or yolo the enemy as fast as possible so you and them are killed earlier. They might make a handy torpedo shield.

Your situation is part of the reason I think ramming damage should be excluded from the team damage system unless some kind of thresh hold is crossed. It makes it possible for players to troll people who are pink as well by keeping them in that state for longer.

I had a similar situation ages ago where the offender took a bunch of torpedoes for me lol.

[Puggsley]

And here you go with the replay

https://replayswows.com/replay/25044#teams

 

[Kamanah]

6 hours ago, icy_phoenix said:

Its says under my forum icon, in blue.

At least you have a forum icon. Now i wanna cry :(

[RalphTheTheatreCat]

17 hours ago, Kamanah said:

At least you have a forum icon. Now i wanna cry :(

At least you cant get TKed in forums

[Puggsley]

On 6/19/2018 at 6:08 PM, LordTyphoon said:

To be honest it's your responsibility to check your mini-map before you fire. It's like you rear ending a car in front of you and you try to blame that car for stopping too fast. 

You get insta-deathed only of you have done TK damage prior to teamkilling. You don't insta death for sudden team kills. I have done that myself before and stayed alive. This means that you must have been guilty of shooting back and doing team damage as well. 

Now we kinda understand why you don't want to supply a replay...

So have you looked at the replay???

Now we kinda understand why its easy to leap to conclusions.....