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Stop putting clan members distributed in both teams, WG!
What kind of sick Matchmaking is this? Of course there will be tendency to support own clan member.

Most of the time they are in same channel and try to sabotage the match one way or another, some time playing poorly or revealing the whole team.

We use effort and time to win a match, now if some people sabotage the match it's fairly WRONG and UNacceptable!

Stop this or I will have to leave this game.

Limit the Divison members to 4 people only and don't let players belonging same clan join opponent team.

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11 minutes ago, Sandipan said:

Most of the time they are in same channel and try to sabotage the match one way or another, some time playing poorly or revealing the whole team.

That would be an assumption on your part. Send a ticket with replay if you have proof of they are rigging matches. Being in the same channel doesn't mean people are even actively talking anyways. The usual case i see is both of the same clans just go ram each other.

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30 minutes ago, Sandipan said:

Stop putting clan members distributed in both teams, WG!
What kind of sick Matchmaking is this? Of course there will be tendency to support own clan member.

if this was to happen it would only slow down the MM process on a server that rarely pops 10k players so it would do nothing more than disadvantage everyone else.  Its players counting in over a third party channel like  TS/Discord.   Its also rare as hens teeth.  I cant recall seeing opposing clan members for ages.

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Most of the time they are in same channel and try to sabotage the match one way or another, some time playing poorly or revealing the whole team.

Conjecture and assumption without proof.  Rant material.

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We use effort and time to win a match, now if some people sabotage the match it's fairly WRONG and Unacceptable!

Everyone does.   Half the people have to lose every match.  That's just team games for you.  I'm sure you lose just the same ratio of games without opposing divs?

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Stop this or I will have to leave this game

Um...ok.   Its a big world and a lot of games to choose from so enjoy whatever path you take.

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Limit the Divison members to 4 people only and don't let players belonging same clan join opponent team.

Its limited to 3

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53 minutes ago, Sandipan said:

Limit the Divison members to 4 people only and don't let players belonging same clan join opponent team.

Whoa, so you're recommending to increase the maximum number of members in a division from 3 to 4? Sweet, I can get down with that :cap_yes:

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Well matchmaking was never intended to sort out clans or player allegiance to begin with. simply put, ship stats including tier level are numbers that can be sorted. A player's skill, or even a player's allegiance with others is currently not quantifiable in any aspects of any game I've seen.

Just a passing thru red guy, don't panic......:etc_red_button:..... Panicking is my job......:cap_book:

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Do you know how horrible is your suggestion in worst cases,
imagine there are four 3-men divisions of the same clan syndrop,
but they are not allowed to fight against each other,
that mean 12 of them will all join the same team !!!!!!!!!!!!
all dalao clans will be so happy with your idea !!!!!!!!!!!

average solo players population is gonna extinct 

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1 hour ago, Sandipan said:

Limit the Divison members to 4 people only and don't let players belonging same clan join opponent team.

That's exploitable. We have done it in the past, 6 players from same clan in one team, especially when the clan is a good one, opponent has negative chance of winning :P If that is even a thing.

Nothing can be done about this really. All you can do is, if you suspect illegal feeding and leaking info to opposing team from syncdropping divisions, send a support ticket with the replay and PM a mod as well for further instruction. If they proved to be doing illegal stuffs, actions will be taken against them (hopefully).

Cannot name names here, but there are certain clans with reputation of syncdropping during missions and feeding each other to complete missions faster.

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3 hours ago, seiji09 said:

Whoa, so you're recommending to increase the maximum number of members in a division from 3 to 4? Sweet, I can get down with that :cap_yes:

Midway + 3 minotaur division confirmed

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15 minutes ago, Pervis117 said:

Midway + 3 minotaur division confirmed

How about
Enterprise + Alabama + T8 Cleveland + Kidd
AMERICA !
 

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If they're abusing it, use replays and submit a ticket.

I know my clan and we are sometimes in the same game as each other or friends but we like trying to sink each other and winning...

I have never seen a clan vsing itself not try to win, so take the appropriate steps against those who do...

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Have 1 clan member in other teams is then accused of spying & rigging a single match.

I guess OP is fine having 2 x 4-man division on the same side then? << I hope this scenario wouldn't be called rigging because they are basically simply doing teamwork. :cap_book::cap_book::cap_book:

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I had two boats from the same clan appear on opposite sides of a random match today.

... nothing happened.

(both did quite well on their respective teams)

 

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Bigger fish to fry as far as MM goes - radar ships esp. I know we all 'love' playing in a team with 0 radar ships when the other side has 3 ( or more) apparently WG cannot fix that due to the increase in game start times that would result.

Or when your are in a domination game with 1 DD vs the other teams 2; and then MM makes your sole DD a Russian DD when the other 2 are uber stealthy USN ships. Again, fixing that would really mess up game setup times.

So the rare cases when this 1) this actually happens, and 2) they actually misbehave its just not worth worrying about. Hell, when I come up against a Clan mate I feel it is my god given duty to send em to the bottom so they know who the clan top dog is ;)

 

 

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I know people do it like that some time. For what purpose I am not sure. I myself when I meet my clannies.. I treat them equally. Sometime if I feel like it, I kill them first :) lol. But why others would rig/cheat when meeting another clannies.. I just dont understand.

 

A bigger issue to me would be, when 2 friendly CV purposely rig the game. And that is for real (during low number of server player - usually at night)

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7 hours ago, Sandipan said:

...don't let players belonging same clan join opponent team.

They are literally planning on changing the MM to ensure that same clans always get put on the opposite team.  Here's a quote from Sub_Octavian regarding upcoming match making changes, from a couple of weeks ago: "Improving the balance of clan players in teams ( anti abuse, to prevent one side having many players of one clan) [yes, that's for you guys counting into battles]".

So what is going to happen is the exact opposite of what you suggested, and for good reason.

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Can honestly say, when me and my clan/subclan are playing together, we love being on opposite sides.
Makes the discord chats so much more lively, all the trash talk and whatnot is beautiful.
Plus, nothing makes me happier than sinking some fellows in particular.(They know who they are)

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8 hours ago, hughfj08 said:

Can honestly say, when me and my clan/subclan are playing together, we love being on opposite sides.
Makes the discord chats so much more lively, all the trash talk and whatnot is beautiful.
Plus, nothing makes me happier than sinking some fellows in particular.(They know who they are)

Agreed:fish_viking:

In all the games I've played since clans really took off, I can only remember 1 occasion where it was blatantly obvious that a syncdropping clan was cheating. 2 clan members with carriers, one on each team, with one player torpedoing himself at the start of the game:cap_wander:   

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On 3/21/2018 at 10:57 AM, icy_phoenix said:

Cannot name names here, but there are certain clans with reputation of syncdropping during missions and feeding each other to complete missions faster.

I'm not supporting this idea at all but if those "missions" encourage bad-play(which they often do), then it's WG's fault introducing those missions... :Smile_trollface: 

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9 hours ago, Thorhorsemen said:

2 clan members with carriers, one on each team, with one player torpedoing himself at the start of the game:cap_wander:

It is not Clan sinc drop, it is done personally by some bad carrier players with double accounts...there were reports of this issue in last Ranked season. It happens very rarely though:cap_hmm:

Edited by _TAMAL_

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Sorta lol when I've been in numerous games where there's 2 divisions 6 ppl in one clan on one team and another 3 players in a division from the same clan on the other team.

Clans trying to MM sync so they can stack a team with 9 clan mates.

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9 hours ago, Pocket_Fox said:

Sorta lol when I've been in numerous games where there's 2 divisions 6 ppl in one clan on one team and another 3 players in a division from the same clan on the other team.

Clans trying to MM sync so they can stack a team with 9 clan mates.

Not really, we just like playing with and against each other.

We've even had 6v6, I think there was one time we had 8 v 3, but usually we'll be lucky to get a 3v3.

To be honest since the CB stupidity, we've had far fewer active members... That pineapple hurt WG!  :Smile-angry:

Edited by S4pp3R

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On 3/21/2018 at 4:07 PM, Sandipan said:

Stop this or I will have to leave this game.

Are you serious? If you are, you may as well quite now. The chance that WG  changes the game because of your thread are about zero.

 Besides, I think the “issue” is mostly your perception. Nobody here seems to share your concern.

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