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Hi All,

I am new to WOWs, and I have a suggestion for US the tech tree line. If anyone can help me reach the dev team and have a look at my suggestion, that would be of great help.

Here is my suggestion for a possible tech treee for the US warship line. Both standard and premium with details after the tech tree.

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I also have some tech tree lineup for UK, France, Germany, Italy, and Russia, running in my head, but that will be another topic for another time.

Also have ideas for Spain, Netherlands, Sweden, Argentina, Commonwealth Nations as well. but it will be like Poland style tech tree.

Please let me know what you think about this tech tree and if the dev team will approve this line up. And if the dev team approves, I will continue my research for the rest of the nation line up.

Thanks in advance if you find this good and reached the dev team. I will try to fill up as much info as needed for this tech tree line up. Feel free to ask and i will try to get back on you as soon as i can.

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Saipan is a premium ship and impossible add into the tech tree researchsble

Juneau came first in 1945 and Worcaster in 1948 so Juneau cannot be in T10 but if you use her in 1952 (76.2mm replaced bofor) migt be fine

Alaska might be premium but I want her to be in tech tree, T9 CA can research 2 ships, Des Moines and Alaska (like WOT T-54 allows research T-64 and obj140)

BB line i have no idea 

CV line Independence cannot be in T7 because Hiryu is a CV not CVL (Saipan is a spacial case because premium)

over all i like your suggestion about CV and CL line (Juneau and Alaska)

 

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Good point. Alaska and Juneau can be tier 9.

I like it when you will research Alaska and Juneau for 2 ships. Juneau 1952 modification can be researched via Hull B module. 

Fret not, Guam and Hawaii will be Alaska's premium.
Guam to carry Radar like Missouri
Hawaii to carry Missile/Rocket like the planned conversion of Illinois and Kentucky (if were completed).

It would be nice to be able to use Saipan as a standard ship. Her sister can take the premium spot.

The Left CV line purpose should be smaller, faster and more concealed vs the CV line on the right. The draw back is lesser squadron and lesser armor for its tier level.
Play smart carrier vs play hard carrier. That's the idea though.


Additional Notes:

I also was thinking of adding "Sacramento", A tier 7 Premium cruiser.
She will have St. Louis (1938)/Helena silhouette. Carries 9 x 8 inch guns. her secondaries are 10 x 5 inch (2 x 1 mounts and 4 x 2 mounts).

Armored Cruisers for Tier 3 or Tier 4 ships? Specialty is good XP and currency generator. No further tech tree upgrades. Or sell them as premium ships?

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1 hour ago, S0und_Theif said:

Good point. Alaska 

Alaska would have Overkill AA in any tier lower than 9, good point

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Hi All,

I have revised the tech tree as per inputs and added new ones to maximize the USN fleet.

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Added 2 tier 9 carrier branch. This branch are USS Illinois and USS Philippines / USS Puerto Rico / USS Samoa converted to carriers. This is added to in the future compliment Shinano, a Japanese Yamato class battleship converted to carrier. Since US Battleships are named by 48 US states "at the time" and the 6 Large Cruisers are nemed after US Territories "at the time", once conveted to carriers they will not bear those names, hence the questionmarks. WW2 US carriers were named after great battles in US history. Suggestion of names are much appreciated or if you have a historical archive and have the names of these converted ships please add them so we can complete the nameing of the 2 ships. Initially i plan to put USS Manila in USS Philippines as her namesake. It makes sense, as the Battle of Manila in 1899 or 1942 in US history.

Alaska and Juneau moved from tier 10 to tier 9. But Alaska will need both Oregon City and Des Moines to unlock. Alaska is a cruiser killer and will murder any tier 8 to 10 cruisers with her 9 x 12 inch guns.

Added Boston and Providence as tier 10 missile cruisers. Like Mississippi, Guam, and Kentucky. "I forgot to add Mississippi in the list as tier 10/9"

Added Sacramento, a tier 7 Heavy Cruiser "if built", she would look like a 9 x 8 inch gunned cruiser version of St. Louis (1938), but armed with 10 to 12 x 5 inch secondaries.

Destroyers are back as is and added USS Somers Class as a branch for USS Fletcher. At her peak, she carries 8 x 5 inch guns and 12 (non-reloadable) 21 inch torpedoes. To be fair, she will have 4 Hull upgrades (including the base hull)
Hull A - Standard - 6 x 5 inch guns in dual mount. 8 x 21 inch torpedo tubes in quad mount, 2 x 1.1 inch AA guns and several .50 cal MG
Hull B - Torpedo - 4 x 5 inch guns in dual mount, 12 x 21 inch torpedo tubes in quad mount (reloadable), 2 x 1.1 inch AA guns and several .50 cal MG
Hull C - Guns - 8 x 5 inch guns in dual mount, 4 x 21 inch torpedo tubes in quad mount, 2 x 1.1 inch AA guns and several .50 cal MG
Hull D - AA - 4 x 5 inch guns in dual mount, 4 x 21 inch torpedo tubes in quad mount, 8 x 40mm bofors in twin mount and several 20mm Oerlikon
Hulls B, C, and D will branch like a trident and let the player choose his playstyle.

Please let me know what you think about this updated tech tree and if the dev team will approve this line up. And if the dev team approves, I will continue my research for the rest of the nation ship line up, including some South American ships , Sweden, Spanish, Dutch Cruisers as premium.

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you should not put Pensacola at tier 5

no other ship on other nation could complete

even furutaka only have 6 guns, that one have 10

 

pls dont add missile ship to the game, this is WoWS not warthunder

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Pensacola class/ Northampton class should be deleted at tier 5 and start the branch at tier 6 with the New Orleanse class, correct?

And the 5 missile ships can be deleted. Though it is only a suggestion, Im comfortable deleteing them. :)

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1 minute ago, S0und_Theif said:

Pensacola class/ Northampton class should be deleted at tier 5 and start the branch at tier 6 with the New Orleanse class, correct?

And the 5 missile ships can be deleted. Though it is only a suggestion, Im comfortable with it. :)

The Pensacola fit to sit at tier 6

New orleans AA would be overkill to be sit in tier 6

Scrap that

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i can see your picture. sure I'll revise the list. Lemme know if you have other opinions with the rest of the line.

Thank you for your inputs. It helps to balance the tech tree.

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Hi,

I have revised the tech tree as per inputs and added new ones to maximize the USN fleet. (revision 3)

Basically, there are now 2 versions in the cruiser line. I cannot decide which one is better but i'm sure the split will begin with New Orleans.

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Missile cruisers are no more. But still put Kentucky and Hawaii there to be Tier 10 premium. What modifications will be needed will make the ships effective, ill let you decide. No missile. 

Added branch in tier 9 carriers, Mill Springs (BB-66 USS Kentucky) and Manila (CB-4 USS Philippines), this will also serve as room for Shinano, a BB turned CV in Japanese tech tree in my future suggestion for Japan tech tree. Since US carriers are named after great battles or great men who contributed in the revolutionary war, it is fitting for Mill Springs (Battle of Mill Springs in Kentucky 1862) and Manila (Battle of Manila in Philippines 1898).

Added tier 10 Worcester and Gearing but armed with 5"/54 caliber Mark 16 gun (the same secondaries armed in Montana Class battleship.

Nebraska is a basically Montana class armed with 18"/45 guns. Guns are smaller than the Yamato's 18.1"/45 guns and 1 gun less than the Yamato.

 

Please let me know what you think about this updated tech tree and if the dev team will approve this line up. And if the dev team approves, I will continue my research for the rest of the nation ship line up.

Thanks for your feedback.

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I would like to see...

VIII Cleveland

IX Baltimore

X Des Monies

all in the main line, given that these ships are of all a similar design and most of us have play them already.

Then the rest in the alternate line and with the Buffalo as the apex.

The Buffalo's 12 guns in two turrets aft and forwards is going to make her one of the "gunniest" US cruisers to captain, it makes for an inspiring ship.

Going by Flamu and Notser vids, I’m actually looking forward to playing the Buffalo, (and playing the game again when these ships come out), so I’m thinking that the Buffalo should have more prestige or prominence and should be at the apex of the alternate ship line.  

I like the Baltimore but I don’t think its a type of ship that's ambitious or motivating enough to command the alternate line on its own.

 

PS: if the Buffalo remains in the main line it might cause the Des to be a bit off an anticlimax!

 

 

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I saw that video too from Flamu and Noster, if buffalo would be added as tier 9 CA, it can branch with either Baltimore or Oregon City depending on the Tier 9 split in the suggestion. It will be like Juneau (1945), which will be researched via one of the modules in tier 9.

Buffalo dose not have the auto loader like Des Moines, so its manual labor and will have low rate of fire vs Des Moines and Worcester. Tier 9 will be ok. Unless Wargameing nurfed its AA vs Baltimore or Oregon City to be more of a brawler cruiser than a AA cruiser.

Cleaveland and Baltimore were made with the same concept hull, much like Brooklyn and Witchita, as well as Fargo and Oregon City.

American CLs have more guns but carries 6 inch / 152mm guns, where as CAs carries 8 inch / 203 mm guns but less 1 turret or 3 guns (exception with buffalo). Damage wise they are almost the same with CL slightly faster at reload.

Buffalo and Alaska will be the ultimate tier 9 Cruiser killers or Battleship busters for a cruiser. If thats the case, Gneisenau (11 inch / 283 mm), 1940 Heavy Cruiser Design (UK), Dunkerque, Andrea Doiria, B65 (Ishikari in WOWS forum) and Kronshtadt (12 inch / 305 mm) will branch at Tier 9 to go against the Alaska class.

This cruiser killers was suggested to be unlocked once the player has researched both Tier 9 and Tier 10 cruiser modules. (like in some tanks in WOT).


There are some ships out there where it was fully conceptuallized or made by wargameing themselves that I still do not know about. So would like to ask the communities help to complete them in my future tech tree suggestions.

I have been thinking of 2 branch split in German BB line and 3 branch split on UK BB line. They will stop at tier 9 but meet up in tier 10. This dose not mean you need to unlock all branches to unlock tier 10 BB. (Work in progress concept and will be discussed on a separate topic. This is only a teaser.)

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I am very happy and pleased at wargaming for adding the light cruisers for the US tech tree line, but more can still be done. Especially if the community is eyeing the Alaska class large cruiser.

Here is an updated suggestion / wishlist for the US Tech tree. I'm gonna follow-up the info tomorrow.

I have shaves some ships and added new ships in the line.

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Sorry bout the bad handwriting, one of my nerves got misplaces and i cant write well for a while.

 

Some few info:

Yes, Alaska will require Iowa and Oregon City to unlock. Likewise for Mill Springs carrier will require Yorktown and Maine to unlock.

I was thinking using Gearing to unlock Oakland and Somers. For Somers it will be worth it. But gor Oakland, im having 2nd thoughts as it will be of a too much hassle for the player to reach Tier 10 DD to unlock Tier 7 CLAA. Please share your thoughts on that.

Chattanooga, Detroit, V. Islands, Maine, Mill Springs and Manila are just suggestive names for the ships. Wargaming may change them if they are to be released.

Constitution is CC5 to stay true with the Lexington class Battlecruiser.

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Hi WG Dev team,

Good day to you all, with the new CV rework, I will not include CV in this suggestion. DDs as it is, is OK, and since USS Alaska is now a premium, I will not include her in this suggestion. However, there are other preliminary designs for Alaska class cruiser and have put them in this suggestion.

Please have a look and consider this suggestion.

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The US tech tree is more of a all around playstyle for me. A basic learning curve for all World of warships beginners, hence also has the potential to split the tech tree to teach advance players and unorthodox players as well. They are good brawlers with medicore AA and armor. Consumables are basic as well so US tech tree is good for beginners.


BB branch A is smaller gun calibre/caliber but more number of guns (i.e. Tennessee - 12 - 14 in (356mm) guns)
BB branch B is bigger gun calibre/caliber but lesser number of guns (i.e. Colorado - 8 - 16 in (406 mm) guns)

In Tier 7, you will have a choice to either research as a Battlecruiser or as a Battleship.
Battlecruiser Pros: Speed
Battlecruiser Cons: Thin Armor, Long Length
Battlecruiser Neutral: Armament (No change in armament performance either in 16 in (406mm) or 14 in (356mm)).

Battleship Pros: Thick Armor, Short Length
Battleship Cons: Speed
Battleship Neutral: Armament (No change in armament performance either in 16 in (406mm) or 14 in (356mm)).

 

CL/CA split, I didn't think through about the gimmick/play style, but I would love to see Oregon City Class and Fargo Class be included in the tech tree. Just like USS Indiana representing S. Dakota Class

CA branch line stops at T8 USS Oregon City. T9 USS Philippines (CB4) will be unlocked by researching from T9 USS Iowa (BB61). Its a trap. :Smile_trollface:

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T3 USS S. Carolina (BB26)

Armament:    
8 - 12 in (305 mm)/45 guns (4 x 2)
22 - 3 in (76 mm)/50 guns (22 x 1)
4 - 3 in (76.2 mm)/50 AA guns

Note: Same gameplay. No change needed.
 

T4 USS Florida (BB30)

Armament:    
10 - 12 in (305 mm)/45 guns (5 x 2)
16 - 5 in (127 mm)/51 guns (16 x 1)
?? - 3 in (76.2 mm)/50 AA guns
?? - 1.1 in (28 mm)/75 AA guns
?? - 0.5 in (12.7 mm) Browning AA guns

Armor:    

Belt: 9–11 in (229–279 mm)
Lower casemate: 8–10 in (203–254 mm)
Upper casemate: 5 in (127 mm)
Barbettes: 4–10 in (102–254 mm)
Conning tower: 11.5 in (292 mm)
Decks: 1.5 in (38 mm)

Note: Most contemporary ships can fire 10 guns on their broadside. (Except Ganut, Nikolai I and Dante Aligheri which can fire 12)


T5 USS Wyoming (BB32)

Armament:    
12 - 12 in (305 mm)/50 guns (6 x 2)
6 - 5 in (127 mm)/51 guns (6 x 1)
8 to 10 - 3 in (76.2 mm)/50 AA guns (8 to 10 x 1)

Armor:    
Belt: 5–11 in (127–279 mm)
Lower casemate: 8–10 in (203–254 mm)
Upper casemate: 6.5 in (165 mm)
Barbettes: 11 in (279 mm)
Conning tower: 11.5 in (292 mm)
Decks: 2.5 in (64 mm)

Note: Give her a higher HP pool and WW2 AA guns setup, she can brawl against T7. I have seen this BB survive in a T5 to T7 battle. Twice. :Smile_amazed:
Note: Her sister USS Arkansas participated in WW2 as secondary line of defense ships. Hence her hull B plus updated AA of Oerlikon and Bofors and shes good for T5.
Note: Shes like a New York but with 12 - 12 in guns
Note: Has the same speed as New York (21 knots)


T5 USS New York (BB34)

Armament:  
10 - 14 in (356 mm)/45 guns (5 x 2)
6 - 5 in (127 mm)/51  guns (6 x 1)
8 to 10 - 3 in (76.2 mm)/50 AA guns (8 to 10 x 1)

Armor:    
Belt: 6–12 in (254–305 mm)
Lower casemate: 9–11 in (229–279 mm)
Upper casemate: 6.5 in (165 mm)
Barbettes: 12 in (305 mm)
Conning tower: 12 in (305 mm)
Decks: 2.5 in (64 mm)

Note: Same gameplay. No change needed.
Note: Has the same speed as Wyoming (21 knots)


T6 USS Nevada (BB36)

Armament: (1942)    
10 - 14 in (356 mm)/45 guns (2 × 3 and 2 × 2)
16 - 5 in (127 mm)/38 guns (8 × 2)

Armor:    
Belt: 8–13.5 in (203–343 mm)
Barbettes: 13 in (330 mm)
Conning tower: 11.5 in (292 mm)
Decks: 3 in (76 mm)

Note: 10 guns compared to USS New Mexico's 12 guns
Note: Has the same speed as New Mexico (21 knots)
Note: After T6,  you can research either as a Battleship or as a Battlecruiser at T7, and still progress to T8 with only one of them researched. The choice is yours.
 

T6 USS New Mexico (BB40)

Armament:    
12 - 14 in (356 mm)/50 guns (4 × 3)
10 - 5 in (127 mm)/51 guns (10 x 1)
8 - 5 in (127 mm)/27 guns (8 x 1)

Armor:    
Belt: 8–13.5 in (203–343 mm)
Barbettes: 13 in (330 mm)
Conning tower: 11.5 in (292 mm)
Decks: 3.5 in (89 mm)

Note: Same gameplay. No Change.
Note: Has the same speed as Nevada (21 knots)
Note: After T6,  you can research either as a Battleship or as a Battlecruiser at T7, and still progress to T8 with only one of them researched. The choice is yours.


T7 USS Constitution (CC5 Lexington class Battlecruiser)

Armament:
8 – 16 in (406 mm)/45 guns (4 x 2)
14 – 6 in (152 mm)/53 guns (14 x 1)
8 - 3 in (76 mm) AA guns (8 x 1)

Armor:
Belt: 5–7 in (127–178 mm)
Barbettes: 5–9 in (127–229 mm)
Conning tower: 12 in (305 mm)
Deck: 1.5–2.25 in (38–57 mm)

Note: She complements USS Colorado and mirrors HMS Hood at T7
Note: Fast ship, good guns, but poor AA and armor
Note: You will still progress to T8 after this tier. No need to research the other T7, unless you want to collect them.


T7 USS Constellation (CC2 Lexington class Battlecruiser)

Armament:
10 – 14 in (356 mm)/45 guns (2 x 3 and 2 x 2)
14 – 6 in (152 mm)/53 guns (14 x 1)
8 - 3 in (76 mm) AA guns (8 x 1)

Armor:
Belt: 5–7 in (127–178 mm)
Barbettes: 5–9 in (127–229 mm)
Conning tower: 12 in (305 mm)
Deck: 1.5–2.25 in (38–57 mm)

Note: Note: She complements USS Colorado and mirrors HMS Hood at T7 but with 10 guns insted of 12 guns
Note: Fast ship, good guns, but poor AA and armor
Note: You will still progress to T8 after this tier. No need to research the other T7, unless you want to collect them.


T7 USS Tennesee (BB43) (1941)

Armament:    
12 - 14 in (356 mm)/50 guns (4 × 3)
8 - 5 in (127 mm)/51 guns (8 x 1)
8 - 5 in (127 mm)/25 guns (8 x 1)

Armor:    
Belt: 8–13.5 in (203–343 mm)
Barbettes: 13 in (330 mm)
Conning tower: 11.5 in (292 mm)
Decks: 3.5 in (89 mm)

Note: She mirrors Colorado but has 12 - 14 in (356 mm)/50 guns
Note: USS Tennessee in her pre-refit look. The post-refit would be overkill AA for her tier.
Note: Has the same speed as Colorado (21 knots)
Note: You will still progress to T8 after this tier. No need to research the other T7, unless you want to collect them.


T7 USS Colorado (BB45)

Armament:    
8 - 16 in (406 mm)/54 guns (4 × 2)
8 - 5 in (127 mm)/51 guns (8 x 1)
8 - 5 in (127 mm)/25 guns (8 x 1)

Armor:    
Belt: 8–13.5 in (203–343 mm)
Barbettes: 13 in (330 mm)
Conning tower: 11.5 in (292 mm)
Decks: 3.5 in (89 mm)

Note:
Note: She mirrors Tennessee but has 8 - 16 in (406mm)/45 guns
Note: Has the same speed as Tennessee (21 knots)
Note: You will still progress to T8 after this tier. No need to research the other T7, unless you want to collect them.


T8 USS North Carolina (BB)

Armament:    
9 - 16 in (406 mm)/45 guns (3 x 3)
20 - 5 in (127 mm)/38 guns (10 x 2)

Armor:    
Belt: 12 in (305 mm)
Barbettes: 16 in (406 mm)
Conning tower: 12 in (305 mm)
Decks: 1.45 in (37 mm), 5 in (127 mm), 0.62 in (16 mm)

Note: Same gameplay. No change needed :Smile_Default:


T8 USS Indiana (BB58)

Armament:    
9 - 16 in (406 mm)/45 guns (3 x 3)
20 - 5 in (127 mm)/38 guns (10 x 2)

Armor:    
Belt 12.2 in (310 mm)
Barbettes: 11.3–17.3 in (287–439 mm)
Conning tower 16 in (406 mm)
Decks 1.5 in (38 mm), 6.05 in (154 mm), 1 in (25 mm)

Note: Thicker armor, smaller than N. Carolina, and slower (by 1 knot) than N Carolina. Otherwise, good ship
Note: Massachusetts (BB59), Alabama (BB60), and (possibly future) T9 S. Dakota (BB57) are all premium.


T9 USS Iowa (BB61)

Armament:    
9 - 16 in (406 mm)/50 guns (3 x 3)
20 - 5 in (127 mm)/38 guns (10 x 2)

Armor:    
Belt: 12.1 in (307 mm)
Barbettes: 11.6 to 17.3 in (295 to 439 mm)
Decks: 1.5 in (38 mm)

Note: Same game play. No change needed :Smile_Default: and a favorite.

T9 USS Illinois (BB65) or USS Connecticut (Battleship Study, BB 65 - Scheme 1)

Armament:  (USS Illinois)
9 - 16 in (406 mm)/54 guns (3 x 3)
20 - 5 in (127 mm)/ guns (10 x 2)

Armament:  (USS Connecticut)
6 - 18 in (457 mm)/48 guns (3 x 2)
20 - 5 in (127 mm)/ guns (10 x 2)

Armor:    
Belt: 12.1 in (307 mm)
Barbettes: 11.6 to 17.3 in (295 to 439 mm)
Decks: 1.5 in (38 mm)

Note: She is suppose to be USS Montana but with the success of the Iowa, the US government ordered an additional 2 of the class but with improvements.
Note: She carries the experimental 16 in (406 mm)/54 guns (that would probably have 7 or 8 bags of powder insted of Iowa's 6). Developed in the 1927.
Note: The Connecticut is an idea from USS Georgia. WOWS T9 premium 18 in (457 mm) guns on an Iowa chassis / hull.


T10 USS Montana (BB67)

Armament:    
12 - 16 in (406 mm)/50 guns (3 x 3)
20 - 5 in (127 mm)/54 guns (10 x 2)

Armor:    
Belt: 16.1 in (407 mm)
Barbettes: 21.3 in (541 mm), 18 in (457 mm)
Decks: 2.25 in (57 mm)

Note: Same game play. No change needed


T10 USS Nebraska (BB72)

Armament:    
8- 18 in (457 mm)/48 guns (3 x 3)
20 - 5 in (127 mm)/54 guns (10 x 2)

Armor:    
Belt: 16.1 in (407 mm)
Barbettes: 21.3 in (541 mm), 18 in (457 mm)
Decks: 2.25 in (57 mm)

Note: Just like the Tennessee class and Colorado class, the main armament was the only change for the ship. The armor and secondary guns stay the same. Cost cutting i guess.
Note: She carries the experimental 18 in (457 mm)/48 guns. Developed in the 1942.

 

Note note: All AA's may varay. hence i did not put them in the armaments. Plus they are too numerous to research.

 

Premium BB

T4 USS Utah (BB31)

Same as USS Florida. Her camo is very very pretty. +100% XP gain instead of the usual +50%


T5 USS Arkansas (BB33) (1945)

USS Arkansas in her 1945 setup. Massive AA like Texas.


T6 USS Oklahoma (BB37)

Like USS Arizona, (which was sunk in Pearl Harbor 1941), will have weak AA but good health pool, range, and dispersion.


T7 USS Idaho (BB42), T8 USS Washington (BB56), T9 USS Missouri (BB63) T9 USS Hawaii (CB3), T10 USS Ohio (BB68) and T10 USS Minnesota (BB??)

Radar


T7/T8 USS Pennsylvania (BB38)

Since she survived Pearl Harbor, she was upgraded to carry 16 - 5 in (127 mm)/ 38 guns found on the N. Carolina, S. Dakota and Iowa class. Basically an Arizona with improved AA.
Radar?


T7/T8 USS W. Virginia (BB48) (1943), USS California (BB44) (1943)

Both ships were destroyed in Pearl Harbor. Both ships came back with a vengeance. Both looks like a S. Dakota in the distance. They retain their main guns and horrible speed (21 knots), but their secondaries and AA's were massively increased. Food time.


T9/T10 USS New Jersey (BB62) and USS Guam (CB2)

Currently not yet in the game as of writing. But, what ever the gimmick will be for them, both ships will receive.

 

This concludes the Battleship part. Next is Cruiser.
Please WG, please consider this request.

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Now for the cruisers.

No change from T1 to T6. From T7 heavy cruiser splits into 2, and at T8 light cruiser splits into 2.
Battleship Iowa will unlock USS Philippines (CA-2A) at T9.
Destroyer USS Mahan (DD364) or Cruiser USS Dallas unlocks USS Oakland (CLAA95) at T7
Note: Should a destroyer unlock AA cruiser because of destroyer guns or a cruiser unlock AA cruisrer because of her secondaries. Need input.


I will only post the once not in the game as in the previous post, it was very long and hard for me to detail everything. So I'll detail the ones not in the game.

T7 USS Sacramento (Modified Witchita Scheme B)

Armament:    
9 × 8 in (203 mm)/55 guns (3 x 3)
12 × 5 in (127 mm)/38 guns (6 x 2)

Armor:    
Belt armor: 6.4 in (160 mm)
Deck: 2.25 in (57 mm)
Turrets: 8 in (200 mm)
Conning tower: 6 in (150 mm)


Note: Witchita is like the Brooklyn class or Boise in the game, Sacramento is like the St. Louis class (1938) or Helena in the game. Mounted with dual 12 × 5 in /38 guns  insted of the singles of the Witchita.


T8 USS Oregon City

Armament:    
9 × 8 inch (203 mm)/55 guns (3 × 3)
12 × 5 inch (127 mm)/38 guns (6 × 2)

Armor:    
Belt: 4–6 in (102–152 mm)
Deck: 2–3 in (51–76 mm)
Turrets: 1.5–8 in (38–203 mm)
Conning tower: 6.5 in (165 mm)

Note: The Oregon City class were a modified version of the previous Baltimore class design. The main difference was a more compact pyramidal superstructure with single trunked funnel, intended to improve the arcs of fire of the AA guns. The same type of modification also differentiated the Cleveland and Fargo classes of light cruisers and N. Carolina and S. Dakota classes of battleships (Source Wikipedia)
Note: T9 USS Philippines (CB4) will be researched from USS Iowa and not from USS Oregon City. 
Note: Oregon City stops at T8.


T8 USS Fargo

Armament:    
12 × 6 inch (152 mm)/47 guns (4 × 3)
12 × 5 inch (127 mm)/38 guns (6 × 2)

Armor:    
Belt: 1.5–5 in (38–127 mm)
Deck: 2–3 in (51–76 mm)
Turrets: 3–5 in (76–127 mm)
Conning tower: 5 in (127 mm)

Note: The Fargo class were a modified version of the previous Cleveland class design. The main difference was a more compact pyramidal superstructure with single trunked funnel, intended to improve the arcs of fire of the AA guns. The same type of modification also differentiated the Baltimore and Oregon City classes of heavy cruisers and N. Carolina and S. Dakota classes of battleships (Source Wikipedia)


T9 USS Charlotte (Study Scheme 2)

Armament:    
12 × 6 inch (152 mm)/47 guns (4 × 3)
12 × 5 inch (127 mm)/38 guns (6 × 2)

Armor:    
Belt: 1.5–5 in (38–127 mm)
Deck: 2–3 in (51–76 mm)
Turrets: 3–5 in (76–127 mm)
Conning tower: 5 in (127 mm)

Note: Offers the same gun armament as the Cleveland (CL-55) class, but with greater speed and improved protection.
Note: Aircraft in the midship rather than aft like Seattle. But the main guns cannot be used as AA.
Note: Main guns are of Cleveland or Fargo class. Cannot be used as AA unlike the Seattle.


T9 USS Chatanooga (5"/54 Cruiser Scheme C)

Armament:    
12 × 5 inch (127 mm)/47 guns (6 × 2)

Armor:
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Note: An USS Juneau class (CLAA119) cruiser but bigger and armed with Montana's secondary guns (5 inch (127 mm)/47)


T9 USS Philippines (CA-2A)

Armament:
9 - 12 in (305 mm)/50 guns (3 × 3)
12 - 5 in (127 mm)/38 guns (6 × 2)

Armor:    
Belt: 9 in (230 mm)
Deck: 4 in (102 mm)
Turrets: 12.8 in (330 mm)
Conning tower:10.6 in (270 mm)

Note: A preliminary design for USS Alaska with 2 smoke stack (like Iowa class) and Aircraft is in the aft rather than the midsip.
Note: Since Alaska is going to be a premium, I changed to this design.
Note: Her armor is same like Alaska.
Note: An Iowa with 9 - 12 in guns. But less secondaries
 

T10 USS Virgin Islands (CA-2D)

Armament:
12 - 12 in (305 mm)/50 guns (4 × 3)
12 to 16 - 5 in (127 mm)/38 guns (6 to 8 × 2)

Armor:    
Belt: 12 in (305 mm)
Deck: 6 in (152 mm)
Turrets: 15 in (356 mm)
Conning tower:12 in (305 mm)

Note: An Montana with 12 - 12 in guns. But less secondaries.
 

T10 USS Missoula (6" AA Cruiser Scheme D)

Armament:    
10 - 6 in (152 mm)/47 guns (5 x 2)

Armor:    
belt: 3–5 in (76–127 mm)
deck: 3.5 in (89 mm) (max)
turrets: 2–6.5 in (51–165 mm)
conning tower: 4.5 in (114 mm)

Note: A Worcester class minus 1 turret. Reloads faster than Worcester.

 

Premium Cruisers

T9 Hawaii, T10 Newport News, T10 Roanok

Radar

 

This concludes the Criser part. Last is Premium DD Porter class and Somers class.

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Finally the premium DD Porter class and Somers class.

T7 USS Somers (DD361) Somers Class

Armament:   (1944)
6 - 5 in (127 mm)/38 (3 x 2)
8 - 1.6 in (40 mm) Bofors guns (2 x 4)
6 - 0.79 in (20 mm) Oerlikon Guns (6 x 1)
8 - 21 in (533 mm) torpedo tubes (2 x 4)

Note: A porter class with 1 less turret.
Note: Guns cannot be used as AA. Single purpose.
Note: Since guns are single purpose, arc physics are more straight.


T7 USS Clark (DD361) Porter Class

Armament:   (1942)
6 - 5 in (127 mm)/38 (3 x 2)
12 - 1.6 in (40 mm) Bofors guns (2 x 4, 2 x 2)
6 - 0.79 in (20 mm) Oerlikon Guns (6 x 1)
8 - 21 in (533 mm) torpedo tubes (2 x 4)

Note: A porter class with 1 less turret.
Note: Guns cannot be used as AA. Single purpose.
Note: Since guns are single purpose, arc physics are more straight.


T8 USS Warrington (DD383) Somers Class

Armament:   (1944)
8 - 5 in (127 mm)/38 (4 x 2)
8 - 1.6 in (40 mm) Bofors guns (2 x 4,)
6 - 0.79 in (20 mm) Oerlikon Guns (6 x 1)
8 - 21 in (533 mm) torpedo tubes (2 x 4)

Note: HMS Cossak now has 2 US rivals
Note: Guns cannot be used as AA. Single purpose.
Note: Since guns are single purpose, arc physics are more straight.


T8 USS Porter (DD356) Porter Class

Armament:   (1942)
8 - 5 in (127 mm)/38 (4 x 2)
8 - 1.6 in (40 mm) Bofors guns (2 x 4,)
6 - 0.79 in (20 mm) Oerlikon Guns (6 x 1)
8 - 21 in (533 mm) torpedo tubes (2 x 4)

Note: HMS Cossak now has 2 US rivals
Note: Guns cannot be used as AA. Single purpose.
Note: Since guns are single purpose, arc physics are more straight.


T9 USS Davis (DD395) Somers Class

Armament:    (1944)
5 - 5 in (127 mm)/38 (2 x 2, 1 x 1)
8 - 1.6 in (40 mm) Bofors guns (2 x 4)
6 - 0.79 in (20 mm) Oerlikon Guns (6 x 1)
8 - 21 in (533 mm) torpedo tubes (2 x 4)

Note: Her guns were upgraded ro dual purpose. Guns can now do AA.
Note: Lesser guns but can do AA work.
Note: Due to guns now able to do AA work, arcs are now the same as Fletcher class


T9 USS Phelps (DD395) Porter Class

Armament:    (1944)
5 - 5 in (127 mm)/38 (2 x 2, 1 x 1)
8 - 1.6 in (40 mm) Bofors guns (2 x 4)
6 - 0.79 in (20 mm) Oerlikon Guns (6 x 1)
8 - 21 in (533 mm) torpedo tubes (2 x 4)

Note: Her guns were upgraded ro dual purpose. Guns can now do AA.
Note: Lesser guns but can do AA work.
Note: Due to guns now able to do AA work, arcs are now the same as Fletcher class

 

And here ends the suggestions details. That was a long one. Please let me know if I have missed any ship details in the suggestion list. Or if you feel that some ships are not in the right tier, please let me know.
And please WG, please consider this request. Thank you.

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