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US Tech Tree Suggestions

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Hi All,

I am new to WOWs, and I have a suggestion for US the tech tree line. If anyone can help me reach the dev team and have a look at my suggestion, that would be of great help.

Here is my suggestion for a possible tech treee for the US warship line. Both standard and premium with details after the tech tree.

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I also have some tech tree lineup for UK, France, Germany, Italy, and Russia, running in my head, but that will be another topic for another time.

Also have ideas for Spain, Netherlands, Sweden, Argentina, Commonwealth Nations as well. but it will be like Poland style tech tree.

Please let me know what you think about this tech tree and if the dev team will approve this line up. And if the dev team approves, I will continue my research for the rest of the nation line up.

Thanks in advance if you find this good and reached the dev team. I will try to fill up as much info as needed for this tech tree line up. Feel free to ask and i will try to get back on you as soon as i can.

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Saipan is a premium ship and impossible add into the tech tree researchsble

Juneau came first in 1945 and Worcaster in 1948 so Juneau cannot be in T10 but if you use her in 1952 (76.2mm replaced bofor) migt be fine

Alaska might be premium but I want her to be in tech tree, T9 CA can research 2 ships, Des Moines and Alaska (like WOT T-54 allows research T-64 and obj140)

BB line i have no idea 

CV line Independence cannot be in T7 because Hiryu is a CV not CVL (Saipan is a spacial case because premium)

over all i like your suggestion about CV and CL line (Juneau and Alaska)

 

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Good point. Alaska and Juneau can be tier 9.

I like it when you will research Alaska and Juneau for 2 ships. Juneau 1952 modification can be researched via Hull B module. 

Fret not, Guam and Hawaii will be Alaska's premium.
Guam to carry Radar like Missouri
Hawaii to carry Missile/Rocket like the planned conversion of Illinois and Kentucky (if were completed).

It would be nice to be able to use Saipan as a standard ship. Her sister can take the premium spot.

The Left CV line purpose should be smaller, faster and more concealed vs the CV line on the right. The draw back is lesser squadron and lesser armor for its tier level.
Play smart carrier vs play hard carrier. That's the idea though.


Additional Notes:

I also was thinking of adding "Sacramento", A tier 7 Premium cruiser.
She will have St. Louis (1938)/Helena silhouette. Carries 9 x 8 inch guns. her secondaries are 10 x 5 inch (2 x 1 mounts and 4 x 2 mounts).

Armored Cruisers for Tier 3 or Tier 4 ships? Specialty is good XP and currency generator. No further tech tree upgrades. Or sell them as premium ships?

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1 hour ago, S0und_Theif said:

Good point. Alaska 

Alaska would have Overkill AA in any tier lower than 9, good point

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Hi All,

I have revised the tech tree as per inputs and added new ones to maximize the USN fleet.

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Added 2 tier 9 carrier branch. This branch are USS Illinois and USS Philippines / USS Puerto Rico / USS Samoa converted to carriers. This is added to in the future compliment Shinano, a Japanese Yamato class battleship converted to carrier. Since US Battleships are named by 48 US states "at the time" and the 6 Large Cruisers are nemed after US Territories "at the time", once conveted to carriers they will not bear those names, hence the questionmarks. WW2 US carriers were named after great battles in US history. Suggestion of names are much appreciated or if you have a historical archive and have the names of these converted ships please add them so we can complete the nameing of the 2 ships. Initially i plan to put USS Manila in USS Philippines as her namesake. It makes sense, as the Battle of Manila in 1899 or 1942 in US history.

Alaska and Juneau moved from tier 10 to tier 9. But Alaska will need both Oregon City and Des Moines to unlock. Alaska is a cruiser killer and will murder any tier 8 to 10 cruisers with her 9 x 12 inch guns.

Added Boston and Providence as tier 10 missile cruisers. Like Mississippi, Guam, and Kentucky. "I forgot to add Mississippi in the list as tier 10/9"

Added Sacramento, a tier 7 Heavy Cruiser "if built", she would look like a 9 x 8 inch gunned cruiser version of St. Louis (1938), but armed with 10 to 12 x 5 inch secondaries.

Destroyers are back as is and added USS Somers Class as a branch for USS Fletcher. At her peak, she carries 8 x 5 inch guns and 12 (non-reloadable) 21 inch torpedoes. To be fair, she will have 4 Hull upgrades (including the base hull)
Hull A - Standard - 6 x 5 inch guns in dual mount. 8 x 21 inch torpedo tubes in quad mount, 2 x 1.1 inch AA guns and several .50 cal MG
Hull B - Torpedo - 4 x 5 inch guns in dual mount, 12 x 21 inch torpedo tubes in quad mount (reloadable), 2 x 1.1 inch AA guns and several .50 cal MG
Hull C - Guns - 8 x 5 inch guns in dual mount, 4 x 21 inch torpedo tubes in quad mount, 2 x 1.1 inch AA guns and several .50 cal MG
Hull D - AA - 4 x 5 inch guns in dual mount, 4 x 21 inch torpedo tubes in quad mount, 8 x 40mm bofors in twin mount and several 20mm Oerlikon
Hulls B, C, and D will branch like a trident and let the player choose his playstyle.

Please let me know what you think about this updated tech tree and if the dev team will approve this line up. And if the dev team approves, I will continue my research for the rest of the nation ship line up, including some South American ships , Sweden, Spanish, Dutch Cruisers as premium.

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you should not put Pensacola at tier 5

no other ship on other nation could complete

even furutaka only have 6 guns, that one have 10

 

pls dont add missile ship to the game, this is WoWS not warthunder

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Pensacola class/ Northampton class should be deleted at tier 5 and start the branch at tier 6 with the New Orleanse class, correct?

And the 5 missile ships can be deleted. Though it is only a suggestion, Im comfortable deleteing them. :)

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1 minute ago, S0und_Theif said:

Pensacola class/ Northampton class should be deleted at tier 5 and start the branch at tier 6 with the New Orleanse class, correct?

And the 5 missile ships can be deleted. Though it is only a suggestion, Im comfortable with it. :)

The Pensacola fit to sit at tier 6

New orleans AA would be overkill to be sit in tier 6

Scrap that

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i can see your picture. sure I'll revise the list. Lemme know if you have other opinions with the rest of the line.

Thank you for your inputs. It helps to balance the tech tree.

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Hi,

I have revised the tech tree as per inputs and added new ones to maximize the USN fleet. (revision 3)

Basically, there are now 2 versions in the cruiser line. I cannot decide which one is better but i'm sure the split will begin with New Orleans.

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Missile cruisers are no more. But still put Kentucky and Hawaii there to be Tier 10 premium. What modifications will be needed will make the ships effective, ill let you decide. No missile. 

Added branch in tier 9 carriers, Mill Springs (BB-66 USS Kentucky) and Manila (CB-4 USS Philippines), this will also serve as room for Shinano, a BB turned CV in Japanese tech tree in my future suggestion for Japan tech tree. Since US carriers are named after great battles or great men who contributed in the revolutionary war, it is fitting for Mill Springs (Battle of Mill Springs in Kentucky 1862) and Manila (Battle of Manila in Philippines 1898).

Added tier 10 Worcester and Gearing but armed with 5"/54 caliber Mark 16 gun (the same secondaries armed in Montana Class battleship.

Nebraska is a basically Montana class armed with 18"/45 guns. Guns are smaller than the Yamato's 18.1"/45 guns and 1 gun less than the Yamato.

 

Please let me know what you think about this updated tech tree and if the dev team will approve this line up. And if the dev team approves, I will continue my research for the rest of the nation ship line up.

Thanks for your feedback.

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I would like to see...

VIII Cleveland

IX Baltimore

X Des Monies

all in the main line, given that these ships are of all a similar design and most of us have play them already.

Then the rest in the alternate line and with the Buffalo as the apex.

The Buffalo's 12 guns in two turrets aft and forwards is going to make her one of the "gunniest" US cruisers to captain, it makes for an inspiring ship.

Going by Flamu and Notser vids, I’m actually looking forward to playing the Buffalo, (and playing the game again when these ships come out), so I’m thinking that the Buffalo should have more prestige or prominence and should be at the apex of the alternate ship line.  

I like the Baltimore but I don’t think its a type of ship that's ambitious or motivating enough to command the alternate line on its own.

 

PS: if the Buffalo remains in the main line it might cause the Des to be a bit off an anticlimax!

 

 

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I saw that video too from Flamu and Noster, if buffalo would be added as tier 9 CA, it can branch with either Baltimore or Oregon City depending on the Tier 9 split in the suggestion. It will be like Juneau (1945), which will be researched via one of the modules in tier 9.

Buffalo dose not have the auto loader like Des Moines, so its manual labor and will have low rate of fire vs Des Moines and Worcester. Tier 9 will be ok. Unless Wargameing nurfed its AA vs Baltimore or Oregon City to be more of a brawler cruiser than a AA cruiser.

Cleaveland and Baltimore were made with the same concept hull, much like Brooklyn and Witchita, as well as Fargo and Oregon City.

American CLs have more guns but carries 6 inch / 152mm guns, where as CAs carries 8 inch / 203 mm guns but less 1 turret or 3 guns (exception with buffalo). Damage wise they are almost the same with CL slightly faster at reload.

Buffalo and Alaska will be the ultimate tier 9 Cruiser killers or Battleship busters for a cruiser. If thats the case, Gneisenau (11 inch / 283 mm), 1940 Heavy Cruiser Design (UK), Dunkerque, Andrea Doiria, B65 (Ishikari in WOWS forum) and Kronshtadt (12 inch / 305 mm) will branch at Tier 9 to go against the Alaska class.

This cruiser killers was suggested to be unlocked once the player has researched both Tier 9 and Tier 10 cruiser modules. (like in some tanks in WOT).


There are some ships out there where it was fully conceptuallized or made by wargameing themselves that I still do not know about. So would like to ask the communities help to complete them in my future tech tree suggestions.

I have been thinking of 2 branch split in German BB line and 3 branch split on UK BB line. They will stop at tier 9 but meet up in tier 10. This dose not mean you need to unlock all branches to unlock tier 10 BB. (Work in progress concept and will be discussed on a separate topic. This is only a teaser.)

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I am very happy and pleased at wargaming for adding the light cruisers for the US tech tree line, but more can still be done. Especially if the community is eyeing the Alaska class large cruiser.

Here is an updated suggestion / wishlist for the US Tech tree. I'm gonna follow-up the info tomorrow.

I have shaves some ships and added new ships in the line.

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Sorry bout the bad handwriting, one of my nerves got misplaces and i cant write well for a while.

 

Some few info:

Yes, Alaska will require Iowa and Oregon City to unlock. Likewise for Mill Springs carrier will require Yorktown and Maine to unlock.

I was thinking using Gearing to unlock Oakland and Somers. For Somers it will be worth it. But gor Oakland, im having 2nd thoughts as it will be of a too much hassle for the player to reach Tier 10 DD to unlock Tier 7 CLAA. Please share your thoughts on that.

Chattanooga, Detroit, V. Islands, Maine, Mill Springs and Manila are just suggestive names for the ships. Wargaming may change them if they are to be released.

Constitution is CC5 to stay true with the Lexington class Battlecruiser.

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