226 [SLAVA] InterconKW Member 433 posts 7,746 battles Report post #1 Posted February 17, 2018 (edited) See? Obviously rigged. 3 on one team including both top scorers at the cap, all from >50% HP, and none on enemy. Wake up sheeple.(/sarcasm) Edited February 17, 2018 by InterconKW Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,739 [-JK-] EULA_violator Member 6,887 posts 34,566 battles Report post #2 Posted February 17, 2018 51 minutes ago, InterconKW said: See? Obviously rigged. 3 on one team including both top scorers at the cap, all from >50% HP, and none on enemy. Wake up sheeple.(/sarcasm) *pats* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
46 ari_aji Member 178 posts 2,897 battles Report post #3 Posted February 17, 2018 at least they got achievement Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
763 [GS] Onlinegamer Video Contributor, Beta Tester 2,952 posts 15,181 battles Report post #4 Posted February 17, 2018 because of Drakon? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
169 [JUNK] ahwai82 Member 1,152 posts 33,352 battles Report post #5 Posted February 17, 2018 well i was in my iowa in a t10 match midway det me, my teammate iowa got detonated by benson and one enemy dd got det from hindy so many detonation lol but this match my team win so its rigged i guess for enemy team Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
626 Harpoon01 Alpha Tester 6,605 posts 2,919 battles Report post #6 Posted February 17, 2018 wow, that's sucks i think i once get something like that, by the end of the match, wondering why we lose so fast then, checked the Team scores and achievements Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,085 [MRI] Thyaliad Member 4,455 posts 22,236 battles Report post #7 Posted February 17, 2018 When the MM decides your team is too OP and decides to even things up a little ... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,014 [LBAS] Manacetamol Modder, Member 7,294 posts 56,795 battles Report post #8 Posted February 17, 2018 5 hours ago, InterconKW said: I met once Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
115 [POI] kultabashi Member 520 posts 11,180 battles Report post #9 Posted February 17, 2018 hmmm... interesting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
245 [BRU] HaiiroMin47 Member 2,725 posts Report post #10 Posted February 18, 2018 When gunpowder module reached to zero HP == >> Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
177 tc1259 Member 614 posts 3,045 battles Report post #11 Posted February 18, 2018 gah - not this thread again.... There is no rigging, match maker only factors in how many tier ships there are, and if there are cv's and dd's If there are not enough dd's it will generally add a Cruiser and or occasionally a Battleship. Point is - it's not rigged! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
282 [NFB] PeterMoe1963 Member 1,342 posts 22,726 battles Report post #12 Posted February 19, 2018 On 2/17/2018 at 11:40 PM, InterconKW said: See? Obviously rigged. 3 on one team including both top scorers at the cap, all from >50% HP, and none on enemy. Wake up sheeple. Don't be paranoid. What interest would WG have to let several ships detonate? That may be a single case you don't see again for years, I have certainly never seen that. Match fixing? Haha, nonsense! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,739 [-JK-] EULA_violator Member 6,887 posts 34,566 battles Report post #13 Posted February 19, 2018 5 hours ago, tc1259 said: gah - not this thread again.... There is no rigging, match maker only factors in how many tier ships there are, and if there are cv's and dd's If there are not enough dd's it will generally add a Cruiser and or occasionally a Battleship. Point is - it's not rigged! i made dis 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
254 _Blink_Blackwolf Member 909 posts 11,043 battles Report post #14 Posted February 19, 2018 5 hours ago, tc1259 said: If there are not enough dd's it will generally add a Cruiser and or occasionally a Battleship. Is that how 2v3, 3v4, 4v5 etc.. DD scenarios are balanced? Because I'm always in the LOWER SIDE (even if im playing dd myself)not to mention that the other side always gets Z52s, Lo Yangs, Kidds and Khabs while my side ALWAYS gets IJN DDs... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
177 tc1259 Member 614 posts 3,045 battles Report post #15 Posted February 19, 2018 48 minutes ago, drakon233 said: i made dis Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
177 tc1259 Member 614 posts 3,045 battles Report post #16 Posted February 19, 2018 33 minutes ago, _TAMAL_ said: Is that how 2v3, 3v4, 4v5 etc.. DD scenarios are balanced? Because I'm always in the LOWER SIDE (even if im playing dd myself)not to mention that the other side always gets Z52s, Lo Yangs, Kidds and Khabs while my side ALWAYS gets IJN DDs... mmmm kinda - being it's off topic, i'll pm you Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
30 [151ST] Beaufighter Moderator 45 posts 6,817 battles Report post #17 Posted February 19, 2018 And the problem with getting IJN DD's is? 1 Good IJN DD is worth 2 Good DD's of any other nation IF your team supports it and doesn't leave it to die. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
254 _Blink_Blackwolf Member 909 posts 11,043 battles Report post #18 Posted February 19, 2018 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Beaufighter said: And the problem with getting IJN DD's is? 1 Good IJN DD is worth 2 Good DD's of any other nation That is true for each and every ship in the game...a good player can make any ship look good...I agree that a good IJN player can make a difference but we are talking about the lowest common denominator. Is it wiser to take an in-competitive ship and try to make it work using skills or simply take the better ship and invest your skills there? 22 minutes ago, Beaufighter said: IF your team supports it and doesn't leave it to die. IMO, No ship should be balanced around the concept that "It needs team help to survive". If enemy has Z-52, Lo Yang or Kidd, there is basically no way an IJN dd will be able to actively contest caps if the enemy dd has a brain. You may say that "IJN dds have spotting advantage" but it is easier to not give them that opportunity because the window is so small.(Not to mention that Gearing has similar concealment to Shima and Yueyang literally outspots it) their guns ar shiit, torps can be spotted from moon and so on...I almost feel sorry for them when I catch them off guard in my Pan Asian DDs because they are literally helpless. Also, I can confidently rush them because I know that I'm not an IJN DD and I CAN HOLD MY OWN. Edited February 19, 2018 by _TAMAL_ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
30 [151ST] Beaufighter Moderator 45 posts 6,817 battles Report post #19 Posted February 19, 2018 Every ship relies on the other ships in the game. CV's rely on the whole team to protect it from other ships. BB's rely on Cruisers and DD's to keep DD's off it. Cruisers rely on DD's to spot other DD's and BB's to shoot BB's and CA's and sometimes DD's too. DD's rely on the rest of the team keeping the enemy planes off it, and to shoot the enemy ships it spots, with first priority going to enemy DD's. Just my take, you don't have to agree. That's how I roll, in my Yugumo, HSF HK, Kagero, Shinonome, Gearing, Fletcher, Benson, Sims, Farragut, Z-23, Gaede, Lo-Yang, Fushun, Ognevoi, Gnevny, Gallant, & Vampire. These being the only DD's I have in my port at the moment. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
254 _Blink_Blackwolf Member 909 posts 11,043 battles Report post #20 Posted February 19, 2018 32 minutes ago, Beaufighter said: CV's rely on the whole team to protect it from other ships. Seriously? 90% CV players stay at distances where even if they are spotted, enemy cannot shoot at that range. 35 minutes ago, Beaufighter said: BB's rely on Cruisers and DD's to keep DD's off it. BBs don't usually need to go that close where thay will need help of cruisers and dds to keep dds away, doing so is overextending. They have Large HP pool and good torp dmg reduction to sustain torp damage. Most BBs have respectable concealment and with proper use of concealment, island cover and float plane, BBs can zone out DDs. 41 minutes ago, Beaufighter said: Cruisers rely on DD's to spot other DD's and BB's to shoot BB's and CA's and sometimes DD's too Cruisers have Hydro and Fighter(Hindenberg), Radar(Moskva, Des Moines), Speed(Henry), Godly Concealment(Zao, Mino) to counter DDs. Fro shooting BBs, I don't know what you mean...it is not necessary for others to spot a BB for cruisers, any BB that outspots a cruiser will open fire sooner or later( or be spotted eventually as cruiser has better speed) and if cruiser has better stealth then BB will be spoted anyway. 47 minutes ago, Beaufighter said: DD's rely on the rest of the team keeping the enemy planes off it, and to shoot the enemy ships it spots, with first priority going to enemy DD's. DD has torps to counter surface ships even when team is not shooting what he's spoting. Some DD have hydro, some can take radar...also they have best concealment. About plane spotting, I don't support that mechanic. 50 minutes ago, Beaufighter said: Just my take, you don't have to agree. No prob...we can agree to disagree 51 minutes ago, Beaufighter said: That's how I roll, in my Yugumo, HSF HK, Kagero, Shinonome, Gearing, Fletcher, Benson, Sims, Farragut, Z-23, Gaede, Lo-Yang, Fushun, Ognevoi, Gnevny, Gallant, & Vampire. These being the only DD's I have in my port at the moment. You have all the dds and still don't agree about IJN being underpowered? I mean, I only have 160ish battles total in DDs but I have absolutely no issue in literally wiping the floor with IJN dds in my pan asian...(this doesn't include HSF HK or Shinonome as they are premiums) The only IJN DD that I've found problematic to deal with is the Kagero, provided that the player plays decent. Also, tell me how you feel after playing Shima... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
30 [151ST] Beaufighter Moderator 45 posts 6,817 battles Report post #21 Posted February 19, 2018 You are going to argue with everything I say. Is there any point in continuing this conversation because you will always believe your opinion is right no matter what I say? I kicked some .... in the Shima in CB. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
254 _Blink_Blackwolf Member 909 posts 11,043 battles Report post #22 Posted February 19, 2018 1 minute ago, Beaufighter said: You are going to argue with everything I say. Is there any point in continuing this conversation because you will always believe you are more right than I am? You gave me your point of view, I gave mine(with explanation)... If you don't like it, fine, doesn't matter but at least give explanation to back up "your take". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
626 Harpoon01 Alpha Tester 6,605 posts 2,919 battles Report post #23 Posted February 19, 2018 (edited) most IJN DD from tier 5 to 9 is underpowered is a common issue you dont have to argue with it oh you dont like my statement? Let me emphasize it for you i am definitely better than you (beaufighter) at playing IJN DD from year after year and still able to say They are underpowered up until now Edited February 21, 2018 by Harpoon01 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
30 [151ST] Beaufighter Moderator 45 posts 6,817 battles Report post #24 Posted February 19, 2018 Having run US DD's and IJN DD's, you'll find me in a IJN DD any time I run RB. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
626 Harpoon01 Alpha Tester 6,605 posts 2,919 battles Report post #25 Posted February 19, 2018 22 hours ago, Beaufighter said: Having run US DD's and IJN DD's, you'll find me in a IJN DD any time I run RB. well [content removed] about your performance in anywhere in your damn life Violation - Profanity. Post edited ~Beaufighter Share this post Link to post Share on other sites