264 [LUOMU] HMS_Swiftsure_08 Supertest Coordinator 1,420 posts 21,620 battles Report post #1 Posted February 8, 2018 (edited) The scenario is like this >An allied DD (or other boats with torps) intentionally/unintentionally fired a salvo of torpedoes at my direction >I felt that taking these torpedoes won't hurt my combat performance in the remaining part of the game >I could have (at least partially) avoided these torps, but I intentionally stopped my ship and took the full salvo to punish him for his irresponsible and inconsiderate torpedo launch. As I said, is this kind of action against the EULA? Edited February 8, 2018 by HMS_Swiftsure_08 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,711 [LBAS] Skarhabek Member 3,004 posts 5,526 battles Report post #2 Posted February 8, 2018 any kind of un-spormantship is bannable... - i lied to enemy i have RDF >> normal - i lied i will go to C to my allies >> bannable - intentionally yolo to get killed >> bannable - intentionally read manga kingdom chapter 545 when playing warship >> bannable - lied to everyone kingdom chapter 547 is out now >> somewhat bannable - spoil the kingdom chapter 547 story when the manga is still translated >> UNFORGIVABLE! 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,739 [-JK-] EULA_violator Member 6,887 posts 34,566 battles Report post #3 Posted February 8, 2018 21 minutes ago, HMS_Swiftsure_08 said: The scenario is like this >An allied DD (or other boats with torps) intentionally/unintentionally fired a salvo of torpedoes at my direction >I felt that taking these torpedoes won't hurt my combat performance in the remaining part of the game >I could have (at least partially) avoided these torps, but I intentionally stopped my ship and took the full salvo to punish him for his irresponsible and inconsiderate torpedo launch. As I said, is this kind of action against the EULA? it is when you ask on the forums Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,800 [TDA] RalphTheTheatreCat Supertest Coordinator, Alpha Tester 6,420 posts 13,601 battles Report post #4 Posted February 8, 2018 Proving it was a deliberate act would be near impossible so I say no Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
221 [ANZAC] j0e90 Member 570 posts 24,369 battles Report post #5 Posted February 8, 2018 And having anything negative actually happen as a result would be nigh on impossible. So if that's how you want to roll go for it I guess. I wouldn't myself , far worse things to get wound up about. Like the price of beer, that weird rash I have that won't go away, the fact that drinking more and more beer has zero impact on said rash, but after 8 or 9 I forget about the rash, so win. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
177 [REPOI] SlamUez Beta Tester 958 posts 22,563 battles Report post #6 Posted February 8, 2018 Why would you be punished? The second line torper should have known better not to torp from second line. As an allied ship you shouldnt have to constantly worry about your back flanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
311 [BOTES] benlisquare Member 1,179 posts 4,293 battles Report post #7 Posted February 8, 2018 (edited) In the spirit of the law, the answer is probably "maybe", however in reality it's pretty much impossible to distinguish between getting team-torped and intentionally sailing into allied torpedoes. Personally, I've never intentionally sailed into allied torps to "teach someone a lesson" though, since I haven't really felt the need to; on a losing game I'd rather stay alive, and farm as much damage as possible for those XP/credit rewards. Occasionally, when I do get unavoidably team-torped by a careless player (genuinely team-torped, and not intentionally sailing into the torps), if I feel spited and jaded enough I'll intentionally not repair my floods for a very long time (as long as I can still stay alive) to maximise his penalties. Generally this happens when either the game looks like a definite win, looks like a definite loss, or if XVM shows that the player has less than 45% winrate. Edited February 8, 2018 by benlisquare Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,083 [MRI] Thyaliad Member 4,453 posts 22,124 battles Report post #8 Posted February 8, 2018 Not sure if it is a bannable offence. Bu I too have done things like that sometimes. Once in a while there would be that one player who repeatedly launches torps into friendlies. I get fed up and stop trying to dodge their torps, and don't repair the flood if I get hit. I usually do that if I feel my contribution is no longer needed in the match. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
282 [NFB] PeterMoe1963 Member 1,342 posts 22,647 battles Report post #9 Posted February 9, 2018 9 hours ago, HMS_Swiftsure_08 said: As I said, is this kind of action against the EULA? Eula? Anyway, is that a theoretical case? Under the current mechanics, will not your friendly torp damage be deducted from his health? That means, that DD should have died, you just removed a DD from your team. I think in that situation it is fair to say you behaved like an arse, considering that it is not only you and that DD, you are both part of a team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
163 FenrirApalis Member 1,860 posts 7,384 battles Report post #10 Posted February 9, 2018 I've intentionally sailed into allied torps fired by AI bots Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
282 [NFB] PeterMoe1963 Member 1,342 posts 22,647 battles Report post #11 Posted February 9, 2018 40 minutes ago, FenrirApalis said: I've intentionally sailed into allied torps fired by AI bots Ah, I see. Does that mean he wanted to teach a bot a lesson for reckless behaviour? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
264 [LUOMU] HMS_Swiftsure_08 Supertest Coordinator 1,420 posts 21,620 battles Report post #12 Posted February 9, 2018 1 hour ago, PeterMoe1963 said: Eula? Anyway, is that a theoretical case? Under the current mechanics, will not your friendly torp damage be deducted from his health? That means, that DD should have died, you just removed a DD from your team. I think in that situation it is fair to say you behaved like an arse, considering that it is not only you and that DD, you are both part of a team. TK damage reflection only happens after he gets pink, but if he wasn't at the moment, he only gets pink, but no further penalty. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,273 [LBAS] LtDan_IceCream Supertester 2,368 posts Report post #13 Posted February 9, 2018 10 hours ago, Skarhabek said: any kind of un-spormantship is bannable... - i lied to enemy i have RDF >> normal - i lied i will go to C to my allies >> bannable - intentionally yolo to get killed >> bannable - intentionally read manga kingdom chapter 545 when playing warship >> bannable - lied to everyone kingdom chapter 547 is out now >> somewhat bannable - spoil the kingdom chapter 547 story when the manga is still translated >> UNFORGIVABLE! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
289 BanditSE1977 Member 1,363 posts 6,020 battles Report post #14 Posted February 9, 2018 14 hours ago, HMS_Swiftsure_08 said: The scenario is like this >An allied DD (or other boats with torps) intentionally/unintentionally fired a salvo of torpedoes at my direction >I felt that taking these torpedoes won't hurt my combat performance in the remaining part of the game >I could have (at least partially) avoided these torps, but I intentionally stopped my ship and took the full salvo to punish him for his irresponsible and inconsiderate torpedo launch. As I said, is this kind of action against the EULA? Until: WG makes proper training missions to show potatoes at all levels how to use torps properly, and potatoes stop whinging in chat about how the torps they launched from BEHIND friendlies damaged and sunk a green ship and now they pink I say screw em! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
282 [NFB] PeterMoe1963 Member 1,342 posts 22,647 battles Report post #15 Posted February 11, 2018 On 2/9/2018 at 3:07 PM, HMS_Swiftsure_08 said: TK damage reflection only happens after he gets pink, but if he wasn't at the moment, he only gets pink, but no further penalty. Are you sure that’s correct. Happened to me in one game, torped an ally by accident and my DD blew up. I was not “pink” at the time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
775 keskparane Member 2,675 posts 17,680 battles Report post #16 Posted February 12, 2018 I won't comment on whether or not intentionally taking them is allowed. What I will say is that when it comes to learning not to fire dangerous torps I think the sooner they learn the better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,083 [MRI] Thyaliad Member 4,453 posts 22,124 battles Report post #17 Posted February 12, 2018 8 hours ago, PeterMoe1963 said: Are you sure that’s correct. Happened to me in one game, torped an ally by accident and my DD blew up. I was not “pink” at the time. Maybe what happened is the damage from your torp crossed a certain threshold and caused the damage reflection to kick in, thus blowing you up. Otherwise he is right, damage reflection doesn't activate unless you are already pink. And it is possible to turn pink without actually killing a friendly as long as you do enough damage. Had somebody turn pink a few days ago because he thought it was a good idea to shoot a full HE salvo at my CV and start a fire. Because it was definitely intentional (I was nowhere near any enemies) and it was a coop match, I decided to let the fire burn out of spite. He turned pink and the reflected fire damage did the rest. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,801 [SLAVA] icy_phoenix Supertester 7,897 posts 14,412 battles Report post #18 Posted February 12, 2018 14 hours ago, PeterMoe1963 said: Are you sure that’s correct. Happened to me in one game, torped an ally by accident and my DD blew up. I was not “pink” at the time. Some part of the damage you dealt turned you pick, and then the rest of the reflected damage destroyed your ship. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
