random bullshit before my red eye flight

[EULA_violator]

sup people 

so i have a red eye flight at 6 am in the morning(WHOOO GOING HOME) im staying awake on coffee and suger and im bored, so i come and forum shitpost

 

today i wanna talk about T9 FXP SHEEEPPPPPSSSS

or rather, what else could be added

 

so we have seen a pattern of WG gibing GIMMICKZZ to T9 prems, mo with its radar and sushi with the lulvermatch. now what next?

a few contenders for this post i would say ez pretty obvious due to how well know they are to us shipweebs 

Alaska for one, give her ridiculous penn and accuracy, slightly buff the armors, give DFAA, slap on a radar and give her USN CA autobounce and voila, new T9 prem

another option is the shinano, give it(SHIT HISTORICAL DCP) the full complimeny of planes that it could carry instead of giving it the dumbass half loadout that the IJN high command gave her, im not a CV player at all so the rest of this design can be finished by anyone else here who does CVs

then we come to a paper design thats also famous, the kronshtadt class battle cruisers (moskek's, Older, more communist older brother), this ship had many diffrent designs for it's guns, like the morgami, one was a 2*3 380mm AB–X layout like scharn, one was a 3*3 240mm AB–X and the final one was 3*3 280mm AB–X design, with a speed up to 32 knot WG could make her the glass cannon that moskva should had been and didnt become

 

finally we have a 1955 AA refit for jean bart (my favorite and cure to high tiertiertier random unamed sky disease)

i need to say no more then the fact that she would have the raw AA OF 180DPS @5km + 347DPS @4.5km

and she might need a slight reload buff, but who carea about dakka when you have flakka?

[Kaede_Natsuyuki]

who doesn't want another Fletcher. Gib Fletcher-class USS O'Bannon with TRB and DFAA in different slot 

[EULA_violator]

30 minutes ago, kentanghalla said:

who doesn't want another Fletcher. Gib Fletcher-class USS O'Bannon with TRB and DFAA in different slot 

well if we are talking about DDs then i have a perfect choice, the freedom akizuki(aka the one that dosnt suck)

 

the porter class was basically a USN DD leader with as much firepower as they could humanly cram on it being installed(designers must had have been from texas) she had 2*4 127 DPs that everyone loves so much and 2*4 torps, surpriseing she was only 2m longer then the fletchers whist almost packing almost double as much firepower, however she waa relatively slow at 37knots and apart from the 127DP the only AA she has was 2*1 bofers and 6*1 orelikons, so she adhered more to the anti ship warfare at the beginning of the war rather then the anti aircraft warfare towarda the end

 

in  game she would be a more gun duel oriented DD with comparable torp reload and concealment to a fletcher, but with a bigger profile for BBs and CAs to shoot at, furthermore she'd have slightly more HP since her displacement is 100 tons more then the fleatchers. however turning wise she'd be closer to a gearing to balance out her increased firepower, finally she'd get the usual USN kit of special smoke, speed boost, and to make her special as a T9 gimmic bote she would have DFAA as a third slot as well

[mitts]

49 minutes ago, drakon233 said:

sup people 

so i have a red eye flight at 6 am in the morning(WHOOO GOING HOME) im staying awake on coffee and suger and im bored, so i come and forum shitpost

sooooo, the salt plains of Bolivia?

T9 sheeps? 10/10 want a paper russian T9

[EULA_violator]

53 minutes ago, mitts said:

sooooo, the salt plains of Bolivia?

reddest country in the world

[humusz]

Project B-65  IJN, Dutch Battlecruiser Van Oranje (project 1047) and.....................

 

Kikuo Fujimoto Design A-220. aka Izumo on steroids

[mitts]

Project Habakkuk

Because everyone needs a ship that floats.

1 hour ago, drakon233 said:

reddest country in the world

Best Korea?

[EULA_violator]

2 minutes ago, mitts said:

Project Habakkuk

Because everyone needs a ship that floats.

Best Korea?

no, but that answer irks me in so many ways that i am throughly triggered

[EULA_violator]

1 hour ago, humusz said:

Project B-65  IJN, Dutch Battlecruiser Van Oranje (project 1047) and.....................

 

Kikuo Fujimoto Design A-220. aka Izumo on steroids

it's highly unlikely that they will make a dutch T9 fxp ship when there isnt even a ship line

[FenrirApalis]

da I see drappa is coming to communism land for Chinese NY

[karrablaster123]

T9 prem fxp ships will be historical(to make more ppl buy it) until WG run out of real ships to add.

 

I see alaska being either T8 or T9.

porter class is an interesting prospect.

Oregon-city class is possible with special DFAA gimmick(unlimited?)

Considering the USN cruiser split, we might see a brooklyn/st louis class as T9 fxp.

We might see the Ticonderoga class(long essex) or Shinano for CV.

[EULA_violator]

43 minutes ago, karrablaster123 said:

T9 prem fxp ships will be historical(to make more ppl buy it) until WG run out of real ships to add.

 

I see alaska being either T8 or T9.

porter class is an interesting prospect.

Oregon-city class is possible with special DFAA gimmick(unlimited?)

Considering the USN cruiser split, we might see a brooklyn/st louis class as T9 fxp.

We might see the Ticonderoga class(long essex) or Shinano for CV.

they will try to cater to their rusaian player base and i dont see anyway of them putting a ru FXP ship at T9 without using a paper design(russian bias time)

[karrablaster123]

19 minutes ago, drakon233 said:

they will try to cater to their rusaian player base and i dont see anyway of them putting a ru FXP ship at T9 without using a paper design(russian bias time)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovetsky_Soyuz-class_battleship

Closest to real russian T9 ships that they can get

[HMS_Swiftsure_08]

8 hours ago, drakon233 said:

well if we are talking about DDs then i have a perfect choice, the freedom akizuki(aka the one that dosnt suck)

 

the porter class was basically a USN DD leader with as much firepower as they could humanly cram on it being installed(designers must had have been from texas) she had 2*4 127 DPs that everyone loves so much and 2*4 torps, surpriseing she was only 2m longer then the fletchers whist almost packing almost double as much firepower, however she waa relatively slow at 37knots and apart from the 127DP the only AA she has was 2*1 bofers and 6*1 orelikons, so she adhered more to the anti ship warfare at the beginning of the war rather then the anti aircraft warfare towarda the end

 

in  game she would be a more gun duel oriented DD with comparable torp reload and concealment to a fletcher, but with a bigger profile for BBs and CAs to shoot at, furthermore she'd have slightly more HP since her displacement is 100 tons more then the fleatchers. however turning wise she'd be closer to a gearing to balance out her increased firepower, finally she'd get the usual USN kit of special smoke, speed boost, and to make her special as a T9 gimmic bote she would have DFAA as a third slot as well

Unfortunately, the Porter and Somers class used SP guns not DP.

The Mark 22 twin between deck/base ring mount was the only twin Single Purpose mounting ever developed and fielded for the 5"/38 guns. These turrets had -10+35 elevation, while other twins were -15+85. Their train rate is also slower at 14.7deg/s. Also IIRC these turrets had a low RoF due to limited internal space, something like 10RPM. (I'm not sure about it as I can't find any indication of this on NavWeaps. But given that Mk 22 has the two barrels mount closer together, 183cm instead of 213cm of DP twins, this rumor is based, at least partially, on fact.)

 

Edit: I almost forgot that these ships had a refit which gave them 5 (2*2+1*1) DP 5"/38

[karrablaster123]

13 minutes ago, HMS_Swiftsure_08 said:

Unfortunately, the Porter and Somers class used SP guns not DP.

The Mark 22 twin between deck/base ring mount was the only twin Single Purpose mounting ever developed and fielded for the 5"/38 guns. These turrets had -10+35 elevation, while other twins were -15+85. Their train rate is also slower at 14.7deg/s. Also IIRC these turrets had a low RoF due to limited internal space, something like 10RPM. (I'm not sure about it as I can't find any indication of this on NavWeaps. But given that Mk 22 has the two barrels mount closer together, 183cm instead of 213cm of DP twins, this rumor is based, at least partially, on fact.)

 

Edit: I almost forgot that these ships had a refit which gave them 5 (2*2+1*1) DP 5"/38

Actually SP guns could be a gimmick by itself. They might lose DFAA and have worse AA than fletcher/gearing in return for better guns and maybe heal

[_Blink_Blackwolf]

9 hours ago, drakon233 said:

finally we have a 1955 AA refit for jean bart (my favorite and cure to high tiertiertier random unamed sky disease)

i need to say no more then the fact that she would have the raw AA OF 180DPS @5km + 347DPS @4.5km

and she might need a slight reload buff, but who carea about dakka when you have flakka?

My thoughts exactly...it is one of the very few ships that I care grinding free xp for...the 1955 refit looks so sexy!

Gimme my Jean Bart WG

[HMS_Swiftsure_08]

4 minutes ago, karrablaster123 said:

Actually SP guns could be a gimmick by itself. They might lose DFAA and have worse AA than fletcher/gearing in return for better guns and maybe heal

I would suggest a post-refit version, despite how much I favor the stock ones' cruiser-like appearance. Layout is A-XY, 2-12, all DP. This would give her similar gun fight capability compared to a Fletcher.

Fletcher: 162K DPM

Gearing: 216K DPM

Porter w/ 3.3 all guns: 162K DPM

Porter w/ 3.3 single 3.0 twin: 176.4K DPM

Porter w/ 3.0 all guns: 178.2K DPM

The special gimmick IMO should be torps. They were commissioned around the same time as Mahan class, so as an earlier class, having less advanced torps fit the WG "historically accurate"(balansed.jpg) philosophy. How about give it Benson upgraded (Fletcher stock) torps, but with 70 second base reload? Also, as the only US DD that carried a second batch of torps, having a TRB consumable is reasonable. Due to the fact that USN never developed a sophisticated auto reload IJN had, probably nerf the TRB stats, for example reduce to 15 secs rather than 8/5 seconds of IJN ones.

[humusz]

7 hours ago, drakon233 said:

it's highly unlikely that they will make a dutch T9 fxp ship when there isnt even a ship line

well we have Dutch ships T61 soon-ish under German line

which upgraded dutch version based from german.

 

Van Oranje is similiar, since its superpowered dutch sister of scharnhorst

and its supposed to be build and stationed on Batavia. being first large capital ship build in SEA region is a plus for me

so even far fetched its something that I would like to see :D

[Manacetamol]

HMS Vanguard or Sub branch for RN BB?

 

[Ordrazz]

Yes, HMS Vanguard!!! 

& some English CVs, like HMS Eagle!!!!  A carrier with character.

I'm getting sick of only facing Japanese CVs. 

Ordrazz

[karrablaster123]

Vanguard is quite possible... But I don't see her becoming a tier 9.

[legionary2099]

On 31/1/2018 at 2:08 AM, drakon233 said:

sup people 

so i have a red eye flight at 6 am in the morning(WHOOO GOING HOME) im staying awake on coffee and suger and im bored, so i come and forum shitpost

 

today i wanna talk about T9 FXP SHEEEPPPPPSSSS

or rather, what else could be added

 

so we have seen a pattern of WG gibing GIMMICKZZ to T9 prems, mo with its radar and sushi with the lulvermatch. now what next?

a few contenders for this post i would say ez pretty obvious due to how well know they are to us shipweebs 

Alaska for one, give her ridiculous penn and accuracy, slightly buff the armors, give DFAA, slap on a radar and give her USN CA autobounce and voila, new T9 prem

another option is the shinano, give it(SHIT HISTORICAL DCP) the full complimeny of planes that it could carry instead of giving it the dumbass half loadout that the IJN high command gave her, im not a CV player at all so the rest of this design can be finished by anyone else here who does CVs

then we come to a paper design thats also famous, the kronshtadt class battle cruisers (moskek's, Older, more communist older brother), this ship had many diffrent designs for it's guns, like the morgami, one was a 2*3 380mm AB–X layout like scharn, one was a 3*3 240mm AB–X and the final one was 3*3 280mm AB–X design, with a speed up to 32 knot WG could make her the glass cannon that moskva should had been and didnt become

 

finally we have a 1955 AA refit for jean bart (my favorite and cure to high tiertiertier random unamed sky disease)

i need to say no more then the fact that she would have the raw AA OF 180DPS @5km + 347DPS @4.5km

and she might need a slight reload buff, but who carea about dakka when you have flakka?

No dont tempt them man , just look at the way Essex end up.

Giving them Shinano means a lot more salt to the already salty pile of CV 

[EULA_violator]

2 hours ago, karrablaster123 said:

Vanguard is quite possible... But I don't see her becoming a tier 9.

WG said a long time ago that they have special plans for her, and she dosnt have either the AA or guns to make heraelf stand out at T9, id say she'll be a T8 FXP ship and have super heal and damn good accruacy, that alone would make her good enough 

[karrablaster123]

15 minutes ago, drakon233 said:

WG said a long time ago that they have special plans for her, and she dosnt have either the AA or guns to make heraelf stand out at T9, id say she'll be a T8 FXP ship and have super heal and damn good accruacy, that alone would make her good enough 

^^

Her guns are the same on the KGV and she has fewer. She might have better sigma since she had better fire control. Her armor is worse than the KGV and she only is 2 knots faster. Tier 9 won't work for her

[_Blink_Blackwolf]

22 minutes ago, drakon233 said:

WG said a long time ago that they have special plans for her, and she dosnt have either the AA or guns to make heraelf stand out at T9, id say she'll be a T8 FXP ship and have super heal and damn good accruacy, that alone would make her good enough 

6 minutes ago, karrablaster123 said:

^^

Her guns are the same on the KGV and she has fewer. She might have better sigma since she had better fire control. Her armor is worse than the KGV and she only is 2 knots faster. Tier 9 won't work for her

I'd say why not just give her 4x2 Conqueror 457mm guns and insane WWII AA...I mean WG sure knows how to Balance things!