143 [JUNK] ahwai82 Member 1,116 posts 21,360 battles Report post #1 Posted January 19, 2018 should division be limit to 2 per side? so many match there are only 2 on one side but 3 on the other side and match become a very one sided affair too hard to balance this with the variety of ships and tiers in this game? there are match where i'm one of the three players not in a div so a easy slaughter on the enemy and vice versa opinion guys? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
56 [DOSH] Darkshaunz Beta Tester 142 posts 4,007 battles Report post #2 Posted January 19, 2018 My opinion: It's fine the way it is, matchmaking doesn't take skill into account - you can have good or bad divisions anyway. My advice: Find good players, make friends with them, and then be ones that slaughter people without divisions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
7 [ASALT] NinoX03 Member 12 posts 4,490 battles Report post #3 Posted January 19, 2018 (edited) I wanna copy the format of the reply above. Very good way to reply! My honest opinion: I am 50/50 with this topic. I do think that sometimes the divs can be too powerful. A good div can just control a damned game very well but thats because theyre very good and they should never get punished for that. Although I do like the idea of having to limit the amount of divs, or atleast let WG take into consideration the PR Rating / Player skill into MM. I do think wows's MM right now is a love and hate relationship. Sometimes its very good sometimes its very bad. If they could find a way to balance the teams, the experience would probably get better, but that's just me. High tier MM rn is super crap, as the ones who were super crap lowtier-midtier almost / even more than a year ago, are now spamming high tier. And with the influx of more tier 8 Prems, you would see more nubs/ newbies that would immediately buy tier 8 prems and just suck at them cuz well it takes experience to play high tier well especially now that wows has associated with steam, expect an influx of players, most probably noobs with money. haha My advice: same as the one above, try and find good players, even if you dont get a top clan, it's better to be in a small/ midtier clan with people helping each other out, than be in a top typhoon clan with people just going at it for themselves. The analogy here is like this "It's better to be in a not-so-good company with a very good boss (who teaches you and helps you improve), than to be in a good company with a bad boss (who just bosses you around). You'd prolly get the picture. If you have discord, join the reddit wows discord server or any other wows community server, most preferably from your nation of residence or people who speak the same language as you. But then again you have nearly twice as many games as me, so I dont think I'm even in a position to comment. But just in case! haha Good day! Edited January 19, 2018 by NinoX03 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,802 [151ST] S4pp3R Member 2,918 posts 10,994 battles Report post #4 Posted January 20, 2018 We often have 3+ divs counting in, going down to 2 pers per div would be annoying as hell and going backwards. IMO, find friends to play with, the game is so much better when you do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
34 [UWU] ShiraYukira Member 533 posts 5,135 battles Report post #5 Posted January 20, 2018 im 50/50 on this topic myself i like soloing i don't find it troubling to have many divisioned players only problem is probably when 2 dd in a division spawn on 1 side of the map and there isnt any other DD and they are reluctant to split up for the better of the team Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
245 [BRU] Mingfang47 Member 2,725 posts Report post #6 Posted January 20, 2018 50/50 as well, what can you do while not in a division is going with them & use them as bait and cooperate with them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
48 [LLBC] Hey_Potato Member 273 posts 1,278 battles Report post #7 Posted January 20, 2018 (edited) It doesn't matter how many div are there in a match. If MM doesn't favour you and end up with potatoes div, nothing much to say about that. Don't forget you will really get some potato div that's the contributing factor to team lost. Been in one MM a few days ago with 3 Atlanta div that screwed the team up big time. Epic potato div. Enemy has only 1 Atlanta which was controlling the cap zone for entire game & that 3 epic potato Atlanta which of course epic fail to even control 1 cap zone with 1 dd and 3 bb back up. Before the match starts you will think its a sure win scenerio ....who knows how bad things will turn around Edited January 20, 2018 by Hey_Potato Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,801 icy_phoenix Super Tester_ 7,897 posts 10,290 battles Report post #8 Posted January 20, 2018 Recently I've been into matches where our side got all the typhoon divs. Fun times! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
75 karrablaster123 Member 816 posts 4,299 battles Report post #9 Posted January 20, 2018 17 hours ago, Darkshaunz said: , make friends with them, Hello darkness my old friend Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
143 [JUNK] ahwai82 Member 1,116 posts 21,360 battles Report post #10 Posted January 20, 2018 i have friends to play with since im in a clan, sometimes our timing is not right have to play solo but in a div its always fun i know me and my friends have fun as well stomping enemy team this is not the thing about me but about the amount of div in a match, sometimes there are 3 triple 3 div vs 2 triple three or 3 triple 3 vs 2 double 2 and so on match become a slaughter to one side for the one with less div(sometimes it doesnt) also match feels so boring can go few minutes without anyone spotting anything or do any shooting you know everyone hiding behind something dont like match like this, to me everyone should have equal chance but thats how things work in this world anyway..the way it is deal with it i guess lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
221 Adm_Kunkka Member 456 posts 9,694 battles Report post #11 Posted January 20, 2018 Eh you're assuming all the divs are competent.Most of the divs I face just don't have any impact and a single good player can shut them down with good counterplay. I only start panicking when seeing certain clan divs like ZOO, VOR, PANTS etc. Non-typhoon clan divs don't usually throw the balance off. Having one extra 3 man div isn't going to really change much unless they are good players Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,407 [REPOI] Drakon233 Member 6,714 posts 27,077 battles Report post #12 Posted January 20, 2018 9 minutes ago, Adm_Kunkka said: Eh you're assuming all the divs are competent.Most of the divs I face just don't have any impact and a single good player can shut them down with good counterplay. I only start panicking when seeing certain clan divs like ZOO, VOR, PANTS etc. Non-typhoon clan divs don't usually throw the balance off. Having one extra 3 man div isn't going to really change much unless they are good players non typhoon 1/2 clans i dont really care abou Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
38 [HMAS] _DuxNutz_ [HMAS] Member 90 posts 7,350 battles Report post #13 Posted January 20, 2018 21 hours ago, ahwai82 said: should division be limit to 2 per side? so many match there are only 2 on one side but 3 on the other side and match become a very one sided affair too hard to balance this with the variety of ships and tiers in this game? there are match where i'm one of the three players not in a div so a easy slaughter on the enemy and vice versa opinion guys? Join a clan and Div up!! Skills learned and shared amoung your playing group improves your gameplay no end. Not to mention those clan base perks !! Its like friends with benefits. The more divs the better I say. Cuts down the selfish non team supporting farmers out there ... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,407 [REPOI] Drakon233 Member 6,714 posts 27,077 battles Report post #14 Posted January 20, 2018 1 hour ago, _DuxNutz_ said: Join a clan and Div up!! Skills learned and shared amoung your playing group improves your gameplay no end. Not to mention those clan base perks !! Its like friends with benefits. The more divs the better I say. Cuts down the selfish non team supporting farmers out there ... you do realize that most not CV fishing divisions out there play to farm right 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
143 [JUNK] ahwai82 Member 1,116 posts 21,360 battles Report post #15 Posted January 20, 2018 2 hours ago, Adm_Kunkka said: Eh you're assuming all the divs are competent.Most of the divs I face just don't have any impact and a single good player can shut them down with good counterplay. I only start panicking when seeing certain clan divs like ZOO, VOR, PANTS etc. Non-typhoon clan divs don't usually throw the balance off. Having one extra 3 man div isn't going to really change much unless they are good players not all div are competent but so does many players out there some whine some rant some become clueless some just give up, not everyone can get around their head all the time lol you dont panic seeing drakon div? if early game cant detodrakon its gonna be one heck of a fight!!! be very fear of drakon!!! 1 hour ago, _DuxNutz_ said: Join a clan and Div up!! Skills learned and shared amoung your playing group improves your gameplay no end. Not to mention those clan base perks !! Its like friends with benefits. The more divs the better I say. Cuts down the selfish non team supporting farmers out there ... im already in a clan lol and yes i played in a div its fun in a div, probably because i fool around but solo i play rather seriously lol 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,407 [REPOI] Drakon233 Member 6,714 posts 27,077 battles Report post #16 Posted January 20, 2018 11 minutes ago, ahwai82 said: not all div are competent but so does many players out there some whine some rant some become clueless some just give up, not everyone can get around their head all the time lol you dont panic seeing drakon div? if early game cant detodrakon its gonna be one heck of a fight!!! be very fear of drakon! HEY, STOP JINXING ME Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,229 [MRI] Thyaliad Member 3,667 posts 15,876 battles Report post #17 Posted January 20, 2018 Divisions are mostly fine. The problem lies when one team has a tryhard fishing division while the other has 3 friends or clan mates fooling around together. But there is nothing the MM can do about that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
221 Adm_Kunkka Member 456 posts 9,694 battles Report post #18 Posted January 20, 2018 1 hour ago, ahwai82 said: you dont panic seeing drakon div? not really Its the other MEGA players who are scary Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,407 [REPOI] Drakon233 Member 6,714 posts 27,077 battles Report post #19 Posted January 20, 2018 45 minutes ago, Adm_Kunkka said: not really Its the other MEGA players who are scary they do when im on their team Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,801 icy_phoenix Super Tester_ 7,897 posts 10,290 battles Report post #20 Posted January 20, 2018 2 hours ago, drakon233 said: they do when im on their team Yep, can confirm. Met drakon so many times already Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,994 [TDA] RalphTheTheatreCat ST Coordinator 5,728 posts 8,203 battles Report post #21 Posted January 20, 2018 While it's no fun coming up against a fishing div the way I look at it is that if you play often enough it balances out in the same manner your chances of playing against any random does. They are a part of the game and you will sooner or later have them on your team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
34 [UWU] ShiraYukira Member 533 posts 5,135 battles Report post #22 Posted January 20, 2018 7 hours ago, drakon233 said: they do when im on their team OOO speaking of which if i see drakon umm i will sink him :3 unless its on my team but i did ask the prev few time if i could... ;) torp him Share this post Link to post Share on other sites