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Why are premium ships still aloud to play in ranked battles? Didn't anyone learn from Belfast [content removed] last season? Until the balancing clowns learn to make premium ships NOT imba then they shouldn't be in ranked or any other comp play IMO.

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49 minutes ago, dieselhead said:

Why are premium ships still aloud to play in ranked battles? Didn't anyone learn from Belfast [content removed] last season? Until the balancing clowns learn to make premium ships NOT imba then they shouldn't be in ranked or any other comp play IMO.

how else is WG going to bait people into spending dough?

and the T8 prems are all fairly balanced except for Loyang, which is bullshit OP

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6 minutes ago, dieselhead said:

Specifically Loyang, Any team with that DD has a distinct advantage in cap area. It reminds me of Z52 in clan battles, same thing tbh.

it isnt, in CW there's long lasting radars that can counter z52

none in T8 with the same potency

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9 minutes ago, dieselhead said:

Specifically Loyang, Any team with that DD has a distinct advantage in cap area. It reminds me of Z52 in clan battles, same thing tbh.

The advantages of the ship are easily outweighed by players playing it stupidly in ranked.

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Lo Yang is a great ship (probably the best tier 8 DD for ranked), but it has a small hp pool, only four guns and anemic torps. It's very vulnerable to being focused under radar given it tends to push aggressively into caps and hydro enemy DD's out of the cap.

Point is, it's good but it is still counterable.  You can also be quite successful in ranked in other non-premium DD's like the Benson and Kagero, so it's not like premiums are a must have.

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1 hour ago, RalphTheTheatreCat said:

The advantages of the ship are easily outweighed by players playing it stupidly in ranked.

no no no, the Loyang is so braindead that all you need to do in a match with no radars on the enemy team to get a assured cap is to sail into the cap and press T&Y

that's how OP it is in rank, it counters stupidity 

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25 minutes ago, drakon233 said:

no no no, the Loyang is so braindead that all you need to do in a match with no radars on the enemy team to get a assured cap is to sail into the cap and press T&Y

that's how OP it is in rank, it counters stupidity 

No I can promise stupidity can beat it.  I jumped a cap with 30 seconds left on my cooldowns. bang bang.  boom. gone

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On 27/12/2017 at 1:47 PM, RalphTheTheatreCat said:

The advantages of the ship are easily outweighed by players playing it stupidly in ranked.

Can you please stop justifying a ship's imbalanced power by claiming the players are bad? That just doesn't make any sense whatsoever. People who have skill can use the lo yang to make much more impact than other DDS. 

And unlike clan wars where you could park two radar ships near c cap with radar mods for perma radar, lo yang can actually contest the cap and drive enemy DD away. NO radar is only 9km so covering the whole cap with its radar puts itself at risk. Chapayev radar is 11.7 km but it's not a Moskva and will die if spotted at that kind of range. 

Ofc bad players will play the ship badly but good players like @WongSongMing can get an obscene 75% winrate with it in ranked

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18 minutes ago, Adm_Kunkka said:

Can you please stop justifying a ship's imbalanced power by claiming the players are bad? That just doesn't make any sense whatsoever. People who have skill can use the lo yang to make much more impact than other DDS. 

And unlike clan wars where you could park two radar ships near c cap with radar mods for perma radar, lo yang can actually contest the cap and drive enemy DD away. NO radar is only 9km so covering the whole cap with its radar puts itself at risk. Chapayev radar is 11.7 km but it's not a Moskva and will die if spotted at that kind of range. 

Ofc bad players will play the ship badly but good players like @WongSongMing can get an obscene 75% winrate with it in ranked

Balans:cap_haloween:

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If you take 2 equal players. 1 in Loyang and one in normal DD and get them to contest the same cap, the Loyang will 9 out of 10 contests because it has better tools at its disposal. Its just that simple.

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8 hours ago, dieselhead said:

If you take 2 equal players. 1 in Loyang and one in normal DD and get them to contest the same cap, the Loyang will 9 out of 10 contests because it has better tools at its disposal. Its just that simple.

So like, it vs a Benson and it wins cuz...hydro?

But then if a CV player wants to punish the lo-yang.. he cant DFAA cuz he took hydro...

 

Torps also slow af with smaller range and Kagero/Harekaze can spot a Lo-Yang and kite away out of hydro range and keep the lo-yang spotted for their allies to shoot at.

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36 minutes ago, Pocket_Fox said:

So like, it vs a Benson and it wins cuz...hydro?

But then if a CV player wants to punish the lo-yang.. he cant DFAA cuz he took hydro...

 

Torps also slow af with smaller range and Kagero/Harekaze can spot a Lo-Yang and kite away out of hydro range and keep the lo-yang spotted for their allies to shoot at.

1> Benson loses a gun if it wants to slot AA

2> lo yang torps have same speed and range as benson, only a tad lower damage

3> smoke exists

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Not exactly hard evidence, but go watch top player streams. If they are playing ranked DD they are in Loyang, why do you think that is if Loyang isn't OP??

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21 minutes ago, Adm_Kunkka said:

1> Benson loses a gun if it wants to slot AA

2> lo yang torps have same speed and range as benson, only a tad lower damage

3> smoke exists

bring the fast torps, literally F3s at T8

45 minutes ago, Pocket_Fox said:

So like, it vs a Benson and it wins cuz...hydro?

But then if a CV player wants to punish the lo-yang.. he cant DFAA cuz he took hydro...

 

Torps also slow af with smaller range and Kagero/Harekaze can spot a Lo-Yang and kite away out of hydro range and keep the lo-yang spotted for their allies to shoot at.

becasue you literally get 5-7K free damage if you stay on the edge of the cap and hydro any incoming DDs and he cant do jack shit about you, and as for kiteing...let's not mention how the kag/harekaze is slow AF for a sec, how do you intend to kite a DD in smoke? even if it's on the open ocean, the loyang just need to turn around to spot it and there's no chance of the kagero running away

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1 hour ago, Pocket_Fox said:

So like, it vs a Benson and it wins cuz...hydro?

But then if a CV player wants to punish the lo-yang.. he cant DFAA cuz he took hydro...

There are almost no cvs in ranked so the poor AA is usually irrelevant.

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For Chappy players: which 1m-slot upgrade are you using? Normally I would use the Rudder shift one as Chappy has 9,7s rudder but I've been watching some streams and looks like its role in ranked now focuses much more on peaking in and out behind islands instead - which makes me wonder if I should take the Acceleration one specifically for ranked instead. One streamer I usually watch (CatOnBoard/DrunkenSailor) already did so.

 

 

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