Belfast, Perth and Kutuzov being removed from Premium Shop

[ILLBBACK2604 12]

You can no longer buy these ships from the next update. Glad i have all three even with the smoke changes they are good ships.

[Tossle 17]

Are you being paid by Wargaming to post this?

[Mingfang47 244]

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Apart from that, with the release of Update 0.6.12 the cruisers Mikhail Kutuzov and Belfast will be unavailable for purchase in Premium Shops, whereas Perth will not be available for purchase until further notice. This is because those ships turned out to be excessively efficient in certain battle situations. Be mindful, however, that the ships will continue to be available for receipt in containers.

 

OH NO!!!! MY SALARY HAVEN'T ARRIVED YET 'TIL NEXT WEEK D:

[Kamanah 67]

The way the Perth will play now is like a snail leaving a slime trail for people to look at an not use, plus you will get detected while firing. 

[ArchKongou 143]

Remembering Buyfast, Kutu, Perth, all Britania cruiser, smoke campers BB's & old smoke mechanics.

We have a very good time with u guys, u shall be miss. :(

 

[Thyaliad 345]

Ok so it seems the Perth will only be obtainable through Supercontainers.

Same for the Kutuzov, as further down it says it can no longer be obtained through the in-game client.

Edit: 

I can't remember. Can the Belfast be bought in the in-game client?

[Kamanah 67]

My understanding is that Perth will be removed from the shop, and only obtained thru Super Containers. Belfast and Kutuzov will be removed from the shop and will no longer be available for purchase. I'm also reading into it that Kutuzov and Belfast won't be obtainable in Super Containers either.

 

I will stand to be corrected.

[keskparane 502]

17 minutes ago, Kamanah said:

My understanding is that Perth will be removed from the shop, and only obtained thru Super Containers. Belfast and Kutuzov will be removed from the shop and will no longer be available for purchase. I'm also reading into it that Kutuzov and Belfast won't be obtainable in Super Containers either.

 

I will stand to be corrected.

phew. otherwise this could have been uncomfortable 

 

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Apart from that, with the release of Update 0.6.12 the cruisers Mikhail Kutuzov and Belfast will be unavailable for purchase in Premium Shops, whereas Perth will not be available for purchase until further notice. This is because those ships turned out to be excessively efficient in certain battle situations. Be mindful, however, that the ships will continue to be available for receipt in containers.

 

[keskparane 502]

48 minutes ago, Thyaliad said:

Ok so it seems the Perth will only be obtainable through Supercontainers.

Same for the Kutuzov, as further down it says it can no longer be obtained through the in-game client.

Edit: 

I can't remember. Can the Belfast be bought in the in-game client?

no the Belfast isn't in game client. but Kutuzov is so if anyone say wanted to try a premium ship with a 2 month money back policy

[SlamUez 146]

Why the removal? 

 

Will these ships retain their original smoke and features? 

[Moganite 28]

I guess now is the time to buy the  MK and see if its worthwhile.

[THAI_THIEF 164]

You should say that WG will remove them from the game

[keskparane 502]

slightly off-topic but how with all this nerf smoke has saipan retained free exit stafe?

[ILLBBACK2604 12]

5 hours ago, Kamanah said:

The way the Perth will play now is like a snail leaving a slime trail for people to look at an not use, plus you will get detected while firing. 

The detection range is 4.5km for Perth main guns in smoke, so basically it needs to be a DD close by to spot her. You still have Torps to 8km to discourage charging CAs and BBs and Hydro to 3.96km for detecting. Use the Spotter Plane to get your guns out 15kms. I think the ship is still viable.

[Thyaliad 345]

WG could have left the ships for sale even after the smoke changes.

The fact that the ships are getting removed from sale shows that WG probably thinks there are too many cruisers sitting in their own smoke and firing HE. Either that or there are further changes planned down the road, and they don't want to put those ships on sale until those are settled.

[ShadoPulse 46]

If I'm not mistaken Belfast and Mikhail will be removed completely, kinda like what they did to the E25(of course it returned for a couple of times but this time they are gone for good) and with what I think Dashing Dasha said the Perth will be removed but will return a couple of times.

[humusz 180]

7km for MK were quite brutal nerf

 

though its most op premium in the game, so maybe that was quite fitting ?

[Kamanah 67]

I wonder if WG tried out an increase of dispersion while firing into smoke while the ship is detected, and also the same while firing out onto a target. +15% spread in/out of smoke fire. 

 

Doesn't matter now, they have decided what they want to do.

[Xero2301 3]

So before all  this about the smoke changes happening with this update... they put all these cruisers on sale. So I of course bought the MK. Now it is being removed???

 

WTF? Shouldn't there be a disclaimer or warning for purchases like these when in the near future they are going to nerf the crap out of the exact ship you are buying? They obviously knew they were doing this! What the hell wargaming???

[Moggytwo 278]

21 hours ago, SlamUez said:

Why the removal? 

 

Will these ships retain their original smoke and features? 

Well my read on this is that they've been thinking of removing the Kutuzov and Belfast for a while, and now is the perfect opportunity for them to do so.

It's a win/win/win/win for WG - they don't actually have to pay out the doubloons they are offering - no one can complain about the ships being 'nerfed' - if people complain about them being OP in the future they can just say that's why they removed them from sale - and they'll also get a nice bump to sales since there are a couple of days between the announcement and the actual removal of the ships for anyone currently on the fence to buy them.

Pretty clever really.

As for the Perth, I'd say they want to see how she goes with the smoke changes so they are removing her temporarily just in case there is an issue.  The bonus being they can bring her back and hopefully get a little bump in sales.

[Moggytwo 278]

9 hours ago, humusz said:

7km for MK were quite brutal nerf

 

though its most op premium in the game, so maybe that was quite fitting ?

It's not great, but as you said the ship was not exactly balanced.  How often do you smoke up within 7km of enemy ships in a Kutuzov anyway?

In terms of brutal nerfs, I don't think any nerf to an individual ship has ever been as brutal as the stealth fire removal to the Blyska.  That thing is a shadow of it's former self now.

[_Sammich_ 36]

20 hours ago, ILLBBACK2604 said:

The detection range is 4.5km for Perth main guns in smoke, so basically it needs to be a DD close by to spot her. You still have Torps to 8km to discourage charging CAs and BBs and Hydro to 3.96km for detecting. Use the Spotter Plane to get your guns out 15kms. I think the ship is still viable.

I tend to drop smoke in the Perth just outside my detection range of 8.1km or if I'm detected by an unspotted DD - it's very rare that I'll be within 4.5km of a ship.

[Bengal_Tiger23 77]

I bought the HMAS Perth for sentimental reasons last weekend. Just started practice with her in Co-Op. No regrets at all as I am just beginning with her, so I will have no preconceived ideas. Hopefully any future changes will not affect her adversely.