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(French BB and Roma)Comparison of BB AP penetration

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So after all the salt about RN HE, let's check how their AP perform

 

TIER III

Bellerophon 373/256/176

South Carolina 412/285/198

Kawachi 362/249/NA

Nassau 395/235/NA

König Albert 429/305/NA

Turenne 382/253/NA

 

TIER IV

Orion 413/300/218

Wyoming (449/341/NA) 508/386/NA

Arkansas Beta 449/341/NA

Myogi 472/350/260

Ishizuchi 348/206/124

Kaiser (429/305/217) 469/369/291

Imperator Nikolai I 472/339/NA

Courbet 382/253/186

 

TIER V

Iron Duke 411/308/231/NA

New York (354/284/228/186) 597/479/384/314

Texas 597/479/384/NA

Kongo 590/471/377/NA

König 469/369/291/NA

Okt. Rev. 472/339/245/NA

Giulio Cesare 551/415/314

Bretagne 472/355/267

 

TIER VI

Queen Elizabeth 515/419/342

Warspite 547/444/362

New Mexico 610/491/395

Arizona 597/479/384

Fuso 590/471/377

Mutsu 550/427/331

Bayern 541/405/304

Dunkerque 601/499/414

Normandie 513/411/329

(Graf Spee 417/307/227)

UPDATE: Normandie takes "worst at 5km" from QE

 

TIER VII

King George V 528/433/355/NA

Hood 515/419/342/NA

Nelson 560/447/357/NA

Colorado 683/559/459/382

Nagato 729/589/477/392

Gneisenau 639/535/449/NA

Lyon 513/411/329/269

(Scharnhorst 464/368/292/NA)

UPDATE: Lyon takes "worst at 5/10/15km" from Hood and "worst(worse?) at 20km" from Colorado

 

TIER VIII

Monarch 616/506/416/NA

North Carolina 689/577/484/NA

Alabama 689/577/484/NA

Amagi 729/589/477/NA

Bismarck 638/535/449/381

Tirpitz 638/535/449/381

Richelieu 665/566/483/416

Roma 700/591/499/NA

UPDATE: Richelieu takes "best (only?) at 20km" from Tirpitz

Roma takes "best at 10km/15km" from Amagi(10km) and NC(15km)

 

TIER IX

Lion(406mm) 701/615/540/477

Lion(419mm) 719/631/554/490

Iowa 736/619/521/444

Missouri 736/619/521/444

Izumo 795/646/525/433

FdG(406mm) 718/605/510/434

FdG(420mm) 737/631/541/467

Alsace 665/566/483/416

UPDATE: Alsace takes "worst at all range" from Lion stock(5km) FdG stock(10km/15km) and Izumo(20km)

 

TIER X

Conqueror(419mm) 719/631/554/490

Conqueror(457mm) 770/664/572/497

Montana 736/619/521/444

Yamato 796/681/583/503

GK(406mm) 718/605/510/434

GK(420mm) 737/631/541/467

France 828/694/582/493

UPDATE: France takes "best at 5km/10km" from Yamato

A/B/C/(D) = penetration at 5/10/15/20km, NA means either the ship cannot reach that far without a spotter or the shell takes too long to fly that the value does not practically worth being used in comparison.

UNDERLINED means the gun has the best penetration at the tier&range

ITALIC means the gun has the worst penetration at the tier&range.

SHIP (a/b/c/d) A/B/C/D means the stock hull has a less powerful shell and the data in the brackets is for reference only and will not participate in the comparison

(ship A/B/C/D) means the ship is not designed for traditional BB gameplay and the data does not participate in the comparison

 

Ahhhhhhh done, nighty night guys

 

Data from World of Warships Fitting Tool (wowsft.com)

Edited by HMS_Swiftsure_08
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2 hours ago, icy_phoenix said:

I knew New York is best t5 BB, no one believed me!!!

"For kind suggestions, we believe that time will solve; meaning, the more you play and practice and study her, the more she reacts better"

Play New York moar guys!:cap_book:

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https://forum.worldofwarships.eu/topic/59528-armor-penetration-curves/

for more information about AP pen

but they dont have French CA, RNBB and last updated January 6th

or they posted inside and didnt update more information or posted in reddit

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4 minutes ago, Onlinegamer said:

https://forum.worldofwarships.eu/topic/59528-armor-penetration-curves/

for more information about AP pen

but they dont have French CA, RNBB and last updated January 6th

or they posted inside and didnt update more information or posted in reddit

IIRC there's even a calculator for penetration of guns at any specified range... Data in my post came from wowsft, I just sorted it out for easy comparison

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8 hours ago, icy_phoenix said:

I knew New York is best t5 BB, no one believed me!!!

Best for AP pens. But not all battles / duels are fought on AP only. 

 

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10 minutes ago, SlamUez said:

Best for AP pens. But not all battles / duels are fought on AP only. 

 

 

Honestly, Kongo is the best imo. The speed gives it the flexibility it requires, and the Konig gets secondaries that counts for a lot at that tier

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O nooo why no senpai like NY :cry:

 

This is from last yer April when I knew nothing about BB plays... I'm telling you this ship is besto!!!!

 

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9 minutes ago, Unraveler said:

New York is OP.

 

At that tier, it's really the skills rather than the boat itself. Though it does help, skills plays a much larger role.

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No, it's because she's better at everything: better guns than Mikasa, better speed than South Carolina, better AA than Arkansas, better armour than Tenryuu, the list goes on. She is OP.

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40 minutes ago, Unraveler said:

No, it's because she's better at everything: better guns than Mikasa, better speed than South Carolina, better AA than Arkansas, better armour than Tenryuu, the list goes on. She is OP.

 

Hah, but does she have torpedoes?

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4 minutes ago, FishyPower said:

Hah, but does she have torpedoes?

 

She doesn't need them - nothing can survive her ferocious Secondary Gun onslaught. (better than Aoba's secondaries better than Chikuma's secondaries)

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Why troll NY :cry:

 

I will destroy all you kongo lovers with her ... here I come :cap_rambo::Smile_izmena: 

 

Murica!!!!!!

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1 hour ago, Unraveler said:

 

She doesn't need them - nothing can survive her ferocious Secondary Gun onslaught. (better than Aoba's secondaries better than Chikuma's secondaries)

Torpedoes are for c...cowards! Unwitting try hard noobs! True fearless warriors only use guns!

(Trying to justify how I got DS'd in a Minotaur duel

And NY had TDS bulge THICK AS IOWA! NY 25mm, IOWA 25mm!!!!! Take that u torp spam suckers!:etc_red_button:

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3 hours ago, icy_phoenix said:

Why troll NY :cry:

 

I will destroy all you kongo lovers with her ... here I come :cap_rambo::Smile_izmena: 

 

Murica!!!!!!

 

My Colorado awaits to whoop New York's butt  :Smile_playing: :etc_hide_turtle:

 

Seriously, Colorado brutally violates the New York and I have been in both the giving end and receiving end. I have been enjoying the New York a lot, until I get two-shotted by a Colorado regardless of what I did to mitigate the damage. The MM change is the final nail in the coffin for me playing the New York.

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21 hours ago, HMS_Swiftsure_08 said:

TIER IV

Orion 413/300/218

Wyoming (449/341/NA) 508/386/NA

Arkansas Beta 449/341/NA

Myogi 472/350/260

Ishizuchi 348/206/124

Kaiser (429/305/217) 469/369/291

Imperator Nikolai I 472/339/NA

 

Myogi has the lowest amount of guns, with her 14" guns having worse penetrations than most other battleships with 12" guns.

 

Shamfur Dispray!!!!

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6 minutes ago, Admiral_Neptulussus said:

 

Myogi has the lowest amount of guns, with her 14" guns having worse penetrations than most other battleships with 12" guns.

 

Shamfur Dispray!!!!

The game is balanced, some however, are moar balanced than others

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I don't even know why I free xp'd through the NY. Playing her must have made me so frustrated that I couldn't endure anymore. But when I check my NY stat I won 7 out of 8 games wtf...

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Why is Duke of Iron soooo noob pen? That's why I'm not surprise that AP absolutely worthless 

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5 hours ago, THAI_THIEF said:

Why is Duke of Iron soooo noob pen? That's why I'm not surprise that AP absolutely worthless 

I was surprised too. Thought the 13.5"/45 would sit somewhere between 14"/45s and 12" SK L/50. Historically the 13.5" after shell upgrade was some of the most powerful guns of WWI. Well, "balanced"

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15 hours ago, Unraveler said:

 

She doesn't need them - nothing can survive her ferocious Secondary Gun onslaught. (better than Aoba's secondaries better than Chikuma's secondaries)

 

BS, true BBs have best torpedoes, stealth torp = 9001% skills

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4 hours ago, HMS_Swiftsure_08 said:

I was surprised too. Thought the 13.5"/45 would sit somewhere between 14"/45s and 12" SK L/50. Historically the 13.5" after shell upgrade was some of the most powerful guns of WWI. Well, "balanced"

Damn UK most bother me worst pen 

It's unbelievable 

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